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The President's League Of Liars Is Disabling Democracy

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By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
06/21/2013

Truth is the lifeblood of democracy. Without honesty, the foundations of consensual government crumble.

If the Internal Revenue Service acts unlawfully, our voluntary system of citizens computing their own taxes implodes. Yet Lois Lerner, one of the IRS' top officials, would not answer simple questions about her agency's conduct during congressional testimony, instead pleading the Fifth Amendment.

Any taxpayer who tried that with an IRS auditor would end up fined and in court.

Almost everything that IRS officials have reported about the agency's unlawful targeting of conservative groups has proven false. IRS malfeasance was not limited only to the Cincinnati office, as alleged, but followed directives sent from higher-ups in Washington.

Top IRS official Lois Lerner confessed to the scandal only through a rigged and preplanned public query by a planted questioner, designed to pre-empt an upcoming critical inspector general's report.

There is legitimate dispute over both the number and purpose of former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman's visits to the White House and nearby executive office buildings, but he did his credibility no good by snidely remarking to Congress that he might also have visited for an Easter egg roll with his kids.


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Obama's League Of Liars Is Disabling Our Consensual Government - Investors.com


Of course the parsing and excuses coming from every Progressive on this issue is astounding. Blaming the little guy used to work for them except now Americans are learning differently. We now know that Mr. Shulman's aide actually visited the White House more often than his appointee superior.
 

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By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
06/21/2013

Truth is the lifeblood of democracy. Without honesty, the foundations of consensual government crumble.

If the Internal Revenue Service acts unlawfully, our voluntary system of citizens computing their own taxes implodes. Yet Lois Lerner, one of the IRS' top officials, would not answer simple questions about her agency's conduct during congressional testimony, instead pleading the Fifth Amendment.

Any taxpayer who tried that with an IRS auditor would end up fined and in court.

Almost everything that IRS officials have reported about the agency's unlawful targeting of conservative groups has proven false. IRS malfeasance was not limited only to the Cincinnati office, as alleged, but followed directives sent from higher-ups in Washington.

Top IRS official Lois Lerner confessed to the scandal only through a rigged and preplanned public query by a planted questioner, designed to pre-empt an upcoming critical inspector general's report.

There is legitimate dispute over both the number and purpose of former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman's visits to the White House and nearby executive office buildings, but he did his credibility no good by snidely remarking to Congress that he might also have visited for an Easter egg roll with his kids.


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Obama's League Of Liars Is Disabling Our Consensual Government - Investors.com


Of course the parsing and excuses coming from every Progressive on this issue is astounding. Blaming the little guy used to work for them except now Americans are learning differently. We now know that Mr. Shulman's aide actually visited the White House more often than his appointee superior.

We know now it was a self described conservative republican who started the targeting in the Cincinnati office.


IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer - Toledo Blade
 

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We know now it was a self described conservative republican who started the targeting in the Cincinnati office.


IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer - Toledo Blade

Douglas Shulman made a $500 donation to the Democratic National Committee to elect John Kerry in October 2004. He was appointed by G.W. Bush in 2008, apparently Bush felt no partisanship in appointing a Liberal Democrat like Shulman. It's also a matter of record that Shulman did not support Bush. Shulman worked under the Bush administration only 9 months, so your statement does not support the allegation. Since he was reappointed under the Obama administration. His primary work has been under the Obama administration. We can all see that Shulman's devotion to the Progressive Left and especially Obama has caused this scandal.
 
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Douglas Shulman made a $500 donation to the Democratic National Committee to elect John Kerry in October 2004. He was appointed by G.W. Bush in 2008, apparently Bush felt no partisanship in appointing a Liberal Democrat like Shulman. It's also a matter of record that Shulman did not support Bush. Shulman worked under the Bush administration only 9 months, so your statement does not support the allegation. Since he was reappointed under the Obama administration. His primary work has been under the Obama administration. We can all see that Shulman's devotion to the Progressive Left and especially Obama has caused this scandal.

LOL The conservative Republican I am talking about worked in the Cincinnati office.
 

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So who is this mystery man Cummings is talking about? do you know who it is? Let the world know...
His name is John Shafer.


IRS Manager: Tea Party Scrutiny Originated In Cincinnati, Not DC « CBS DC

WASHINGTON (AP) — An Internal Revenue Service manager and self-described conservative Republican said the close scrutiny of Tea Party groups’ tax forms originated in his Cincinnati IRS office and not in Washington, according to a full transcript of his interview by congressional investigators released Tuesday.

John Shafer, who oversaw a small group of IRS workers who screen applications for tax-exempt status, told the investigators that the initial Tea Party application was spotted by one of his workers in February 2010.

Shafer said he decided to send it to higher-ranking supervisors because it was unclear whether the group would qualify for the tax exemption and because of the media attention the conservative groups were garnering at the time.

Managers in the IRS’ Exempt Organizations office in Washington ended up expressing interest in the case, he said. Shafer said it was normal to pay careful attention to such cases to make sure similar applications are treated the same way.

“This ends up to be a case that we want to make sure we’re consistently going to look at, and that’s where this started,” Shafer said.

 

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His name is John Shafer.


IRS Manager: Tea Party Scrutiny Originated In Cincinnati, Not DC « CBS DC

WASHINGTON (AP) — An Internal Revenue Service manager and self-described conservative Republican said the close scrutiny of Tea Party groups’ tax forms originated in his Cincinnati IRS office and not in Washington, according to a full transcript of his interview by congressional investigators released Tuesday.

John Shafer, who oversaw a small group of IRS workers who screen applications for tax-exempt status, told the investigators that the initial Tea Party application was spotted by one of his workers in February 2010.

Shafer said he decided to send it to higher-ranking supervisors because it was unclear whether the group would qualify for the tax exemption and because of the media attention the conservative groups were garnering at the time.

Managers in the IRS’ Exempt Organizations office in Washington ended up expressing interest in the case, he said. Shafer said it was normal to pay careful attention to such cases to make sure similar applications are treated the same way.

“This ends up to be a case that we want to make sure we’re consistently going to look at, and that’s where this started,” Shafer said.


Not sure the meaning of this "discovery". So he sent a missive asking how to handle an issue he came upon. Does that in any way devolve into holding up applications for two years or more? Only if you take something out of context and have little reasoning skills.

How does this impact the actions at other offices who did similar things?

It must be great to live in a world that allows one to listen to Jay carney a few minutes a day and know all there is to know.
 

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Not sure the meaning of this "discovery". So he sent a missive asking how to handle an issue he came upon. Does that in any way devolve into holding up applications for two years or more? Only if you take something out of context and have little reasoning skills.

How does this impact the actions at other offices who did similar things?

It must be great to live in a world that allows one to listen to Jay carney a few minutes a day and know all there is to know.

I agree, Looks like the claim the Progressives are making is clear to them in their justification to persecute conservative and religious groups in the hundreds because one "conservative' may or may not have flagged one 501(c)(4). This does not exonerate or justify Obama or his administration from stopping or slow-walking an estimated 400 or more individuals and organizations.
 

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LOL The conservative Republican I am talking about worked in the Cincinnati office.

Hmm...., does that justify the persecution of religious and conservative groups from the various IRS offices spread throughout the U.S.? I don't think so. Then again was it an order from superiors to flag specific applications of 501(c)(4) that involved this one conservative? Do you know you or Mr. Cummings know for sure?
 

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Not sure the meaning of this "discovery". So he sent a missive asking how to handle an issue he came upon. Does that in any way devolve into holding up applications for two years or more? Only if you take something out of context and have little reasoning skills.

How does this impact the actions at other offices who did similar things?

It must be great to live in a world that allows one to listen to Jay carney a few minutes a day and know all there is to know.
I think the hold up of applications points to two things, 1) A clear definition as to what constitutes the definition of "Social Welfare" and 2) the incompetency of the organization to resolve problems when the come up. There should be no reason for applications to be held that long. I don't blame conservatives for being pissed, they deserve answers from the IRS.
 

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Hmm...., does that justify the persecution of religious and conservative groups from the various IRS offices spread throughout the U.S.? I don't think so. Then again was it an order from superiors to flag specific applications of 501(c)(4) that involved this one conservative? Do you know you or Mr. Cummings know for sure?
As far as I know, just the Cincinnati office that determines which applications will be scrutinized, but once they are picked other offices can do the actual scrutinizing.
 
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