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The politics of islam [W:368]

Re: The politics of islam

That was actually more like Himmler. He sure had a screw loose about mythology that Der Führer didn't share but tolerated. Sort of.

But yeah, Adolf being inspired by Muhammad is a good one. :lamo:lamo:lamo

Seems like its being thrown straight up to fall straight down again.:roll:


I did not say "inspired". If Chagos has to change the posts to comment on them, what good is he? At least he grasps the laws of gravity.
 
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I did not say "inspired". If Chagos has to change the posts to comment on them, what good is he? At least he grasps the laws of gravity.
"Inspired" is basically the same thing as being "influenced".
 
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In what language?

"Hitler being influenced by Muhammad"
"Hitler being inspired by Muhammad"

Those aren't too far off from one another.

But regardless, the central point is that Hitler was not "inspired" or "influenced" by Muhammad.
 
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The central point is that Hitler was not "inspired" nor "influenced" by Muhammad.

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[1]

A famous anecdote about Adolf Hitler's perspectives towards Islam and the Arabs is recounted by Albert Speer in his best-selling memoir, Inside the Third Reich. Speer reports that "Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of distinguished Arabs."[2] The delegation had speculated that the world would have become "Mohammedan" if the Berbers and Arabs had won the Battle of Tours in the 8th Century AD, and that the Germans would have become heirs to "a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and in subjugating all nations to that faith. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the German temperament."[3] Speer then presents Hitler's claims on this subject:

Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.[4]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world
 
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"Inspired" is basically the same thing as being "influenced".
When they can't think of anything else (as in always) they argue dictionaries. Maybe it's to show they have one, I dunno.
 
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MEMRI isn't evidence of anything other than that one might as well stick to proven propaganda tactics. They are certainly inspired by Goebbels.

That's maybe why the poster likes them? :roll:

I see, any source who disagrees with you is a propagandist source. Sure thing.
 
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Literally none of that is evidence to suggest that Hitler was influenced by Muhammad.

Other killers are, why not Hitler? Or he did not hate the Jews?
 
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Hitler was a good Catholic boy to the end. Never excommunicated.
 
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Other killers are, why not Hitler? Or he did not hate the Jews?
That's because Hitler was not Islamic, nor was he influenced by Islam.

Hitler specifically blamed the Jews for all of Germany's problems because previously the Jews had already been blamed for a variety of issues during WWI, such as strikes within arms-industry factories, which were seen as weakening the war effort. Socialists throughout Germany, although they had initially supported the war, began to protest and attempt to undermine the war effort, seeing it as a rich man's war on the back of the poor, which caused a growing hatred among German patriots for both communism, and socialism. Following Germany's surrender after WW1, the Bavarian Soviet Republic appeared in the city of Munich, whose leaders were mostly Jewish, which in turn only intensified German hatred for Jews, and allowed both socialists and Jews to be tied together as enemies of the German state, who wished to see them fail.

Essentially, socialists were blamed for a large amount of trouble during the war on the home front, with a tone of anti-semitism already existing, and with many socialist leaders within Germany being Jewish, that allowed the two to be tied together as a scapegoat for Germany's defeat in WW1.

That's why Hitler hated the Jews and specifically placed the blame on them for all of Germany's problems.
 
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Hitler was a good Catholic boy to the end. Never excommunicated.

as oppose to churchill who had such an affinity for muslims his family was worried he might convert
 
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Hitler was a good Catholic boy to the end. Never excommunicated.

But he did not follow Christian doctrine. Mohammad created his own doctrine, much like Hitler did. Hitler just didn't have a sock puppet named Allah.

You can also produce a source to verify that statement about Hitler. Here is a source that says he was.
It was therefore impossible for the Church to excommunicate Hitler because of his Nazi ideology during the Holocaust because it had already done that in 1931.

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-Pope-not-excommunicate-Hitler-during-the-Holocaust
 
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That's because Hitler was not Islamic, nor was he influenced by Islam.

Hitler specifically blamed the Jews for all of Germany's problems because previously the Jews had already been blamed for a variety of issues during WWI, such as strikes within arms-industry factories, which were seen as weakening the war effort. Socialists throughout Germany, although they had initially supported the war, began to protest and attempt to undermine the war effort, seeing it as a rich man's war on the back of the poor, which caused a growing hatred among German patriots for both communism, and socialism. Following Germany's surrender after WW1, the Bavarian Soviet Republic appeared in the city of Munich, whose leaders were mostly Jewish, which in turn only intensified German hatred for Jews, and allowed both socialists and Jews to be tied together as enemies of the German state, who wished to see them fail.

Essentially, socialists were blamed for a large amount of trouble during the war on the home front, with a tone of anti-semitism already existing, and with many socialist leaders within Germany being Jewish, that allowed the two to be tied together as a scapegoat for Germany's defeat in WW1.

That's why Hitler hated the Jews and specifically placed the blame on them for all of Germany's problems.
He was actually an anti-semitist long before WW1. His Vienna years formed him, anti semitism having been rife there for ages.

And not just there either.
 
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Hitler was a good Catholic boy to the end. Never excommunicated.
Even where the myth lives on that he was.

Load of tripe, of course, the Vatican wasn't going to spoil it with Germany on the religious side and nullify the concordat they'd just been pleased to sign.

Adolf wasn't particularly devout though, attending church wasn't his thing.

Maybe on account of being too busy praying towards Mecca five times a day :lamo
 
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Even where the myth lives on that he was.

Load of tripe, of course, the Vatican wasn't going to spoil it with Germany on the religious side and nullify the concordat they'd just been pleased to sign.

Adolf wasn't particularly devout though, attending church wasn't his thing.

Maybe on account of being too busy praying towards Mecca five times a day :lamo

Quora is tripe. Most apologists swear by it.
 
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Spoiler alert: they are.

Who says so? There are many people that would disagree with you. And that isn't counting people who do not believe there is a God.

Mohammed knew all about Christianity and Judism. Besides that, the fact that the Koran is just plagarism is very likely.
 
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Who says so? There are many people that would disagree with you. And that isn't counting people who do not believe there is a God.

Mohammed knew all about Christianity and Judism. Besides that, the fact that the Koran is just plagarism is very likely.

And the Gospels aren't? I forget the exact number but each one uses a good amount of verses from each other.

If there's only one God, then by definition all the other gods would have to be aspects of him.
 
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And the Gospels aren't? I forget the exact number but each one uses a good amount of verses from each other.

If there's only one God, then by definition all the other gods would have to be aspects of him.

It is really irrelavant. The fact is people believe and people follow. What they follow is the problem. Islam, especially political Islam, is a huge poblem.
 
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