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The Polish occupation of Czechoslovakia -1938 year

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Propaganda Western media, shows Poland as the victim of aggression, "the bloody Stalinist regime." And the people who zombified by Western propaganda, with confidence madmen, tell each other scary stories about the Polish victims of the Red Army and the NKVD. Here are some photos without comment. Maybe these photos will help some people to keep the mind.
Section and the destruction of Czechoslovakia as an independent state with the participation of Germany, Hungary and Poland in the years 1938-1939. These events are not officially included in the history of the Second World War, but is closely associated with it and it may be the first step in this war.
1)Polish tanks 7TR included in the Czech city Tesín (Cieszyn). October 1938


2)Polish soldiers posing with deposed Czechoslovak coat of arms, at have captured, during "Operation Zaluzha", Telephone and Telegraph building in the Czech village of Ligotka Kameralna.


3)Handshake Polish Marshal Edward Rydz-Smigla and the German Colonel Bogislav fon Studnitz . November 11, 1938


4) Polish soldiers on captured by the Czech checkpoint in Czech-German border, near the pedestrian bridge, which was built in honor of the anniversary of Emperor Franz Joseph in the Czech city of Bogumin. Wyden has not cleaned by the Czechoslovak border post.


5) Poles replace Czech name on the Polish. Station. Tesín.


In Russian there is a saying goes like this - inappropriately on the mirror swear, if your face is crooked. This proverb it's necessary write on the forehead of each Russophobe.
 

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Propaganda Western media, shows Poland as the victim of aggression, "the bloody Stalinist regime." And the people who zombified by Western propaganda, with confidence madmen, tell each other scary stories about the Polish victims of the Red Army and the NKVD. Here are some photos without comment. Maybe these photos will help some people to keep the mind.
Section and the destruction of Czechoslovakia as an independent state with the participation of Germany, Hungary and Poland in the years 1938-1939.
These events are not officially included in the history of the Second World War, but is closely associated with it and it may be the first step in this war.
1)Polish tanks 7TR included in the Czech city Tesín (Cieszyn). October 1938


2)Polish soldiers posing with deposed Czechoslovak coat of arms, at have captured, during "Operation Zaluzha", Telephone and Telegraph building in the Czech village of Ligotka Kameralna.


3)Handshake Polish Marshal Edward Rydz-Smigla and the German Colonel Bogislav fon Studnitz . November 11, 1938


4) Polish soldiers on captured by the Czech checkpoint in Czech-German border, near the pedestrian bridge, which was built in honor of the anniversary of Emperor Franz Joseph in the Czech city of Bogumin. Wyden has not cleaned by the Czechoslovak border post.


5) Poles replace Czech name on the Polish. Station. Tesín.


In Russian there is a saying goes like this - inappropriately on the mirror swear, if your face is crooked. This proverb it's necessary write on the forehead of each Russophobe.



Does anyone reading this really care what happened in Czech0slovakia 75 years ago?
 

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Good, maybe you and Tovarish can have a nice chat

* laughs * The British? - the first concentration camps (the Anglo-Boer War). Hitler took over only English experience. Opium Wars in China, (The drug mafia led by the Crown. In 1842, the population of the China was 416,118,200, of which 2 million - drug addicts, in 1881 - 369 183 000, of which 120 million - addicts.), By the way, Britain was the world leader in the slave trade. (Only the English colonies in North America, and later in independent States was brought about 13 million slaves from Africa, but given the fact that for One survivor had lost 3-4 during a "hunting people" in Africa itself and during transport, the genocide simply enormous.) And, of course - 100% destruction of the indigenous inhabitants of Tasmania. Against this background - the occupation of Czechoslovakia - for the English, a minor episode.
 

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In 1939 the Soviet Union invaded Poland and butchered thousands. It also attacked Finland. And then it also invaded and annexed Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Obviously it also took territory from Romania. It collaborated extensively with its Nazi-ally Germany.
 

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In 1939 the Soviet Union invaded Poland and butchered thousands. It also attacked Finland. And then it also invaded and annexed Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Obviously it also took territory from Romania. It collaborated extensively with its Nazi-ally Germany.
* laughs * This justifies the Polish aggression in Czechoslovakia? The year before.? By the way to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania - was part of the Soviet Union under a contract with the governments of these countries. Moldova (not part of Romania) was incorporated into the Soviet Union after the referendum.


 
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In 1939 the Soviet Union invaded Poland and butchered thousands. It also attacked Finland. And then it also invaded and annexed Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Obviously it also took territory from Romania. It collaborated extensively with its Nazi-ally Germany.
As for the cooperation between the USSR and Germany - see photo number three. (in Thread) In addition poland - is aggressor State. The same as Nazi Germany. And of course, do not Poland spray the snot, on the invasion the USSR. By the way, the Soviet Union took its land (Western Ukraine and Western Belarus), who, during the weakness of Russia, captured poland. (by the way Poland itself was part of the Russian Empire.
 

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the polish victims were mostly the victims of nazism if l am not wrong
 

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the polish victims were mostly the victims of nazism if l am not wrong
Not wrong. You are absolutely right. It has become fashionable, especially from Eastern Europe, accusing the Soviet Union and Russia. This is because they want flatter the new host. Maybe because of the stupidity, or maybe because of the mad pride, they do not understand - there are some really great countries. The rest - a bargaining chip. And Poland, among these small coins.
 

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Not wrong. You are absolutely right. It has become fashionable, especially from Eastern Europe, accusing the Soviet Union and Russia. This is because they want flatter the new host. Maybe because of the stupidity, or maybe because of the mad pride, they do not understand - there are some really great countries. The rest - a bargaining chip. And Poland, among these small coins.
in fact teh soviet union had some faults too but a reasonable person should also know no kind of socialism can be more dangerous than any nazi fascist administration

maybe people dont want to see it.tahts all
 

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in fact teh soviet union had some faults too but a reasonable person should also know no kind of socialism can be more dangerous than any nazi fascist administration

maybe people dont want to see it.tahts all
You are absolutely right. I think in the Soviet Union before and after Stalin's death, was not socialism. Lenin (Blank), Trotsky (Bronstein) - explicit sadistic and bastards. Khrushchev - is hidden Trotskyite. Weak Brezhnev, and of course - Judas Gorbachev and alcoholic Yeltsin. For all the shortcomings, Stalin achieved a lot, based on the theory of socialism. http://www.debatepolitics.com/histo...od-which-spent-billions-3.html#post1062072567
 

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the polish victims were mostly the victims of nazism if l am not wrong
Nazi Germany and the Communist Soviet Union jointly attacked and occupied Poland. Both slaughtered Poles in large numbers.
 

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in fact teh soviet union had some faults too but a reasonable person should also know no kind of socialism can be more dangerous than any nazi fascist administration

maybe people dont want to see it.tahts all[/QUOTE

There really isn't anything to choose between Nazi or Communist regimes. Both are totalitarian, opressive and extremely murderous. Communist regimes obviously killed many more people, but it's not a numbers game.
 

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* laughs * This justifies the Polish aggression in Czechoslovakia? The year before.? By the way to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania - was part of the Soviet Union under a contract with the governments of these countries. Moldova (not part of Romania) was incorporated into the Soviet Union after the referendum.


You and your love of historical negationism are indeed quite laughable.
 

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You and your love of historical negationism are indeed quite laughable.
It's not scary when funny. Especially when you have nothing to say.
 

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in fact teh soviet union had some faults too but a reasonable person should also know no kind of socialism can be more dangerous than any nazi fascist administration

maybe people dont want to see it.tahts all[/QUOTE

There really isn't anything to choose between Nazi or Communist regimes. Both are totalitarian, opressive and extremely murderous. Communist regimes obviously killed many more people, but it's not a numbers game.
Typical (indoctrinate Western media) delirium. Categorical statement, without evidence, with an aggressive pressure. The lack of logic .... All it says about radical fanaticism. With clear symptoms of schizophrenia. Such, like a persecution complex. You need to be treated.
 

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I had thought that WWII was over with a long time ago. But it looks like some people want to re-fight it.

I have other,more productive, things to do so I'm outta here.
 

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in fact teh soviet union had some faults too but a reasonable person should also know no kind of socialism can be more dangerous than any nazi fascist administration

maybe people dont want to see it.tahts all
Well, I'm glad we've established that Communism and Facism are both variations of Socialism. Now, is Facism more dangerous? That's debatable, since the Communists of the world, since the beginning of WW2 have murdered about 50 million people.
 
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Great selection of facts about those who really started the war.

Important to notice that Just in Sept 1938 - Hitler was selected by Americans as "Man of The Year" by "TIMES".
Chamberlain signed Agreement with Hitler on 30 Sept 1938.
On almost Next day Poland, based UK agreement and in line with UK-USA-Hitler strategy annexed the part of Checjoslovakia to open to Hitler the road to USSR boarders.

Now it is different to hide the fact, that The day of joint UK-Poland-Hitler aggression against Czechoslovak was the real day of WWII beginning.

This fact was intentionally silenced by Allies (USA/UK/France) not to ruin illusion, that the Hitler, but not USA-UK-Poland and Hitler bargain was the real reason for WWII Start. Unfortunately Stalin did not say NO to this piece of routing lie, offered by the West.
 

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Great selection of facts about those who really started the war.

Important to notice that Just in Sept 1938 - Hitler was selected by Americans as "Man of The Year" by "TIMES".
Chamberlain signed Agreement with Hitler on 30 Sept 1938.
On almost Next day Poland, based UK agreement and in line with UK-USA-Hitler strategy annexed the part of Checjoslovakia to open to Hitler the road to USSR boarders.

Now it is different to hide the fact, that The day of joint UK-Poland-Hitler aggression against Czechoslovak was the real day of WWII beginning.

This fact was intentionally silenced by Allies (USA/UK/France) not to ruin illusion, that the Hitler, but not USA-UK-Poland and Hitler bargain was the real reason for WWII Start. Unfortunately Stalin did not say NO to this piece of routing lie, offered by the West.
What.

You do realize WW2 did not start over Czechoslovakia, right?
 

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Great selection of facts about those who really started the war.

Important to notice that Just in Sept 1938 - Hitler was selected by Americans as "Man of The Year" by "TIMES".
Chamberlain signed Agreement with Hitler on 30 Sept 1938.
On almost Next day Poland, based UK agreement and in line with UK-USA-Hitler strategy annexed the part of Checjoslovakia to open to Hitler the road to USSR boarders.

Now it is different to hide the fact, that The day of joint UK-Poland-Hitler aggression against Czechoslovak was the real day of WWII beginning.

This fact was intentionally silenced by Allies (USA/UK/France) not to ruin illusion, that the Hitler, but not USA-UK-Poland and Hitler bargain was the real reason for WWII Start. Unfortunately Stalin did not say NO to this piece of routing lie, offered by the West.
Yes Hitler was named man of the year and so was Nikita Khrushchev and Ayatollah Khomenni.
 

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Propaganda Western media, shows Poland as the victim of aggression, "the bloody Stalinist regime." And the people who zombified by Western propaganda, with confidence madmen, tell each other scary stories about the Polish victims of the Red Army and the NKVD. Here are some photos without comment. Maybe these photos will help some people to keep the mind.
Section and the destruction of Czechoslovakia as an independent state with the participation of Germany, Hungary and Poland in the years 1938-1939. These events are not officially included in the history of the Second World War, but is closely associated with it and it may be the first step in this war.
1)Polish tanks 7TR included in the Czech city Tesín (Cieszyn). October 1938


2)Polish soldiers posing with deposed Czechoslovak coat of arms, at have captured, during "Operation Zaluzha", Telephone and Telegraph building in the Czech village of Ligotka Kameralna.


3)Handshake Polish Marshal Edward Rydz-Smigla and the German Colonel Bogislav fon Studnitz . November 11, 1938


4) Polish soldiers on captured by the Czech checkpoint in Czech-German border, near the pedestrian bridge, which was built in honor of the anniversary of Emperor Franz Joseph in the Czech city of Bogumin. Wyden has not cleaned by the Czechoslovak border post.


5) Poles replace Czech name on the Polish. Station. Tesín.


In Russian there is a saying goes like this - inappropriately on the mirror swear, if your face is crooked. This proverb it's necessary write on the forehead of each Russophobe.
Two things can be true. Poland can have opportunistically seized a small Czech municipality AND have been a victim of German and Soviet aggression.
 
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