Stu Ghatze
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When arab country's TEACHES their children to HATE jews & most westerners in the classrooms, ..& they do, & the palestinian population is INFECTED with this hate since childhood nothing serious will ever come out of any respect for peace plans.
Now, ..not all palestinians are as violent as some BUT...its always the same shyte: unprovoked assault & murder, kidnapping of westerners, & as usual the muslim cry, & cause!
They, the palestinians as well as other muslim groups WANT the focus of attention on them, & what is remarkable is the fact that many of these western journalists go there to do a story that is generally "SYMPATHETIC" to the Palestinian cause, ..or the muslim "cause", ..but it doesn't matter those muslims will even grab them for leverage through kidnappings, ..or even mark them for death.
It is the very nature of dealing with muslim belief systems because "THEY", ..nobody but "THEY" made it that way, & furthermore the WHOLE of their daily life from childhood is this very same indocrination.
Now.....you know exactly what in the hell israli's have been going through since 1948, & yet many say Israel is too heavy handed in their response??
The Israli's have asked the palestinians time after time to please STOP teaching young palestinians this hatred in the classrooms, & at the knees of the muslim imams, & teachers;...but they continue to teach it, & ingrain it with their islamic religion.
THat is one reason as to believe there will NEVER be peace, or any honest agreement between the palestinians, & the israeli's because the TRUTH is this:
Any agreements the palestinains actually do want with Israel is nothing but horseshyte, & a smokescreen ..& ALWAYS is about Israel GIVING them land rather than a willingness to live "peaceably" among israli's.
Misplaced Jordanians, generic arabs, & syrians are exactly what a Palestinian is in reality; & the so called "palestinian" name is nothing but a "myth" that was successfully sold by the egyptian born Yasser Arafat !
Exactly the price to be paid by Israel by making agreements just for the sake of "peace" when a country is warred upon continually, & historical re-visionist PUKE is sold as truth so the world can make "victims" out of "palestinians".
Israel EXISTED thousands of years ago, & we know this. They had a country, a government, & minted coins, & had a history & its ancient building & remnants still survive, at least the ones that the ancient Romans did not destroy in their last seige in by general Titus.
What generic nomadic arabs that lived among the nation of Israel live for the most part "peaceably", ..& were NEVER known as "palestinians". After Rome's conquest of Israel, & Israel's taken out of their homeland the ones not killed by the romans, ..the jewish people left alive were repopulated elsewhere as was the custom of conquering country's.
Thus was the end of the golden age of Israel, ..only to be re-occupied by arab nomads, & ownership going back & forth to various occupying countrys!
Only the poor of the very poor jews were left "unmolested" in Israel after the roman conquest & they lived among nomadic arabs, & the land of Israel became desolate over the centuries where some areas were encroached upon by desert, & some even by worthless swampland.
Many jews forgot their heritage, & their identity, ..the ones who were dispersed around the world, ..many did remember their heritage from family traditions that were kept alive over the course of two millennia.
Centuries passed by but always the jews who knew their identity had a yearning to go back to their ancient land to dwell, ..& they started doing this in the late 1800's, & into the 1900's.
Before the advent of Islam in the 7th century ...the reigning jewish monarchy's of Israel got along just fine with MANY arab kings, & leaders, & in fact were friendly trading partners with such as king Hiram who's kingdom extended into Lebanon.
Israel, & Arab country's RESPECTED each others borders & kingdoms, & were basically friendly with one another...BUT that was LONG BEFORE the advent of ISLAM!
Israel's land borders were MUCH bigger than what it is today as well, ..& other country's were part of Israel's land such as "Jordan" which was also nothing BUT a pure invented country with invented borders courtesy of the british who would do any g-damn thing to find favor with arab landowners who had OIL on their property, & make "KINGS & PRINCES" out of nothing more than goat herders, like king Hussien's family among many others who were an INVENTED monarchy by the British who were the power brokers at the time ..& that IS THE TRUTH!
IN 1948 Israel did NOT kick out, or usurp any arab from their land, or property!
IN fact Israel wanted all the local ''inhabitants" who were arabs..to live among them in peace, & many PREFERED to do just that until the "muslim" brotherhood told them to leave because THEY were going to launch a war, & assault upon Israel the very day AFTER Israel claimed Statehood, & was LEGALLY granted statehood by the RECKOGNIZED UNITED NATIONS.
From that point on it has been nothing but lie after lie about the false notion that Israel disposssed land from the arabs to create the state of Israel.
In truth, ..the "REAL" so called Palestinians were the original jewish inhabitants of the land, & area called Palestine; ..& even the ancient Romans knew this, & ALL references to Palestine suggested the "government & people of Israel" in whom the Romans imposed their Roman rule over LONG BEFORE ISLAM WAS EVEN FOUNDED.
Israel was invaded, conquered, & destroyed by the Romans in year 70 ..& Their JEWISH temple, The jewish monarchy of kings, princes..& the wealthy were taken out & dispersed from the land, & millions of jews KILLED by the Romans, & the rest sold into slavery.
Palestine NEVER was a reference meaning anything to do with Arabs, or an arab people, & THIS TRUTH IS NOT BEING TOLD AS IT SHOULD BE!!!!
IT is KNOWN & is factual!
The problem among the jews & so called "arab" palestinians, & other arabs continues because of the LIES, revision, & false teachings concerning the historical record, & mostly because of the Islamic religion.
Also wortyh mentioning:
Everytime Israli archaeologists want to engage in certain digs, ..the arab inhabitants riot, & raise all kinds of hell!
Know why? It is because archaelogy CONFIRMS the existence of Israel's LINK to the land;....& this is something that the Arabs despise, & that IS the truth!
Islam's 7th century founder Mohammed hated Jews, & mistreated them...what few were still alive, & living in Israel, ..& his historical record of his life can be found IF YOU LOOK!
He united the Arabs in this unified & common hate of Israel which still continues to this day.
Islam, ..a religion of peace..?? Yes, ..among arabs, ..but NOT for jews. In fact, ..killing jews was not forbidden but considered a "duty" in many of Mohammed's teachings.
NO..YOU will NOT hear of this on CNN because it is NOT politically correct. Here we have a true jewish "minority" with a jewish population of roughly ONLY around 4-million jews OUTNUMBERED by hundreds of millions of arabs who DESPISE Israel, ..& the popular media portrays Israel as being the "oppressors"...,which is incredible !
Israel...a nation that has been destroyed by the assryians, the babylonians, the medes & persians,& rebuilt again only to be destroyed by the romans, & hated, & Hitler's attempted genocide to kill every last jew on earth, ..& Israel continues to be the worlds G-damn BOOGEYMAN because of arab hatred, historical re-vision, oil, political correctness, & the religion of ISLAM!
The arabs (so called palestinians) that dwell among Israel do not want honest peace, & Israel knows this. The arabs only want to wear down the Israli people by murdering them, bombing them, killing indiscriminatley young, & old alike to wear them down.
THey COULD have HAD statehood years ago, for Israel did NOT oppose it, ..but Arafat REJECTED it because THAT in actuality was NEVER the goal.
If statehood was accepted by Arafat there would be no reason to continue the war, & the murder against against Israel, & THAT is why Arafat rejected statehood, ..& no other honest reason.
Sure...Arafat gladly would have taken statehood, ..as long as Israel was ALSO destroyed along with their statehood!
The so called "palestinian" issue is bullshyte, in fact...other arab country's DO NOT want them in their country's. BUT they are using them, & financing the palestinians to wage nonstop war against Israel because THEY cannot defeat Israel in a war.
Now, ..not all palestinians are as violent as some BUT...its always the same shyte: unprovoked assault & murder, kidnapping of westerners, & as usual the muslim cry, & cause!
They, the palestinians as well as other muslim groups WANT the focus of attention on them, & what is remarkable is the fact that many of these western journalists go there to do a story that is generally "SYMPATHETIC" to the Palestinian cause, ..or the muslim "cause", ..but it doesn't matter those muslims will even grab them for leverage through kidnappings, ..or even mark them for death.
It is the very nature of dealing with muslim belief systems because "THEY", ..nobody but "THEY" made it that way, & furthermore the WHOLE of their daily life from childhood is this very same indocrination.
Now.....you know exactly what in the hell israli's have been going through since 1948, & yet many say Israel is too heavy handed in their response??
The Israli's have asked the palestinians time after time to please STOP teaching young palestinians this hatred in the classrooms, & at the knees of the muslim imams, & teachers;...but they continue to teach it, & ingrain it with their islamic religion.
THat is one reason as to believe there will NEVER be peace, or any honest agreement between the palestinians, & the israeli's because the TRUTH is this:
Any agreements the palestinains actually do want with Israel is nothing but horseshyte, & a smokescreen ..& ALWAYS is about Israel GIVING them land rather than a willingness to live "peaceably" among israli's.
Misplaced Jordanians, generic arabs, & syrians are exactly what a Palestinian is in reality; & the so called "palestinian" name is nothing but a "myth" that was successfully sold by the egyptian born Yasser Arafat !
Exactly the price to be paid by Israel by making agreements just for the sake of "peace" when a country is warred upon continually, & historical re-visionist PUKE is sold as truth so the world can make "victims" out of "palestinians".
Israel EXISTED thousands of years ago, & we know this. They had a country, a government, & minted coins, & had a history & its ancient building & remnants still survive, at least the ones that the ancient Romans did not destroy in their last seige in by general Titus.
What generic nomadic arabs that lived among the nation of Israel live for the most part "peaceably", ..& were NEVER known as "palestinians". After Rome's conquest of Israel, & Israel's taken out of their homeland the ones not killed by the romans, ..the jewish people left alive were repopulated elsewhere as was the custom of conquering country's.
Thus was the end of the golden age of Israel, ..only to be re-occupied by arab nomads, & ownership going back & forth to various occupying countrys!
Only the poor of the very poor jews were left "unmolested" in Israel after the roman conquest & they lived among nomadic arabs, & the land of Israel became desolate over the centuries where some areas were encroached upon by desert, & some even by worthless swampland.
Many jews forgot their heritage, & their identity, ..the ones who were dispersed around the world, ..many did remember their heritage from family traditions that were kept alive over the course of two millennia.
Centuries passed by but always the jews who knew their identity had a yearning to go back to their ancient land to dwell, ..& they started doing this in the late 1800's, & into the 1900's.
Before the advent of Islam in the 7th century ...the reigning jewish monarchy's of Israel got along just fine with MANY arab kings, & leaders, & in fact were friendly trading partners with such as king Hiram who's kingdom extended into Lebanon.
Israel, & Arab country's RESPECTED each others borders & kingdoms, & were basically friendly with one another...BUT that was LONG BEFORE the advent of ISLAM!
Israel's land borders were MUCH bigger than what it is today as well, ..& other country's were part of Israel's land such as "Jordan" which was also nothing BUT a pure invented country with invented borders courtesy of the british who would do any g-damn thing to find favor with arab landowners who had OIL on their property, & make "KINGS & PRINCES" out of nothing more than goat herders, like king Hussien's family among many others who were an INVENTED monarchy by the British who were the power brokers at the time ..& that IS THE TRUTH!
IN 1948 Israel did NOT kick out, or usurp any arab from their land, or property!
IN fact Israel wanted all the local ''inhabitants" who were arabs..to live among them in peace, & many PREFERED to do just that until the "muslim" brotherhood told them to leave because THEY were going to launch a war, & assault upon Israel the very day AFTER Israel claimed Statehood, & was LEGALLY granted statehood by the RECKOGNIZED UNITED NATIONS.
From that point on it has been nothing but lie after lie about the false notion that Israel disposssed land from the arabs to create the state of Israel.
In truth, ..the "REAL" so called Palestinians were the original jewish inhabitants of the land, & area called Palestine; ..& even the ancient Romans knew this, & ALL references to Palestine suggested the "government & people of Israel" in whom the Romans imposed their Roman rule over LONG BEFORE ISLAM WAS EVEN FOUNDED.
Israel was invaded, conquered, & destroyed by the Romans in year 70 ..& Their JEWISH temple, The jewish monarchy of kings, princes..& the wealthy were taken out & dispersed from the land, & millions of jews KILLED by the Romans, & the rest sold into slavery.
Palestine NEVER was a reference meaning anything to do with Arabs, or an arab people, & THIS TRUTH IS NOT BEING TOLD AS IT SHOULD BE!!!!
IT is KNOWN & is factual!
The problem among the jews & so called "arab" palestinians, & other arabs continues because of the LIES, revision, & false teachings concerning the historical record, & mostly because of the Islamic religion.
Also wortyh mentioning:
Everytime Israli archaeologists want to engage in certain digs, ..the arab inhabitants riot, & raise all kinds of hell!
Know why? It is because archaelogy CONFIRMS the existence of Israel's LINK to the land;....& this is something that the Arabs despise, & that IS the truth!
Islam's 7th century founder Mohammed hated Jews, & mistreated them...what few were still alive, & living in Israel, ..& his historical record of his life can be found IF YOU LOOK!
He united the Arabs in this unified & common hate of Israel which still continues to this day.
Islam, ..a religion of peace..?? Yes, ..among arabs, ..but NOT for jews. In fact, ..killing jews was not forbidden but considered a "duty" in many of Mohammed's teachings.
NO..YOU will NOT hear of this on CNN because it is NOT politically correct. Here we have a true jewish "minority" with a jewish population of roughly ONLY around 4-million jews OUTNUMBERED by hundreds of millions of arabs who DESPISE Israel, ..& the popular media portrays Israel as being the "oppressors"...,which is incredible !
Israel...a nation that has been destroyed by the assryians, the babylonians, the medes & persians,& rebuilt again only to be destroyed by the romans, & hated, & Hitler's attempted genocide to kill every last jew on earth, ..& Israel continues to be the worlds G-damn BOOGEYMAN because of arab hatred, historical re-vision, oil, political correctness, & the religion of ISLAM!
The arabs (so called palestinians) that dwell among Israel do not want honest peace, & Israel knows this. The arabs only want to wear down the Israli people by murdering them, bombing them, killing indiscriminatley young, & old alike to wear them down.
THey COULD have HAD statehood years ago, for Israel did NOT oppose it, ..but Arafat REJECTED it because THAT in actuality was NEVER the goal.
If statehood was accepted by Arafat there would be no reason to continue the war, & the murder against against Israel, & THAT is why Arafat rejected statehood, ..& no other honest reason.
Sure...Arafat gladly would have taken statehood, ..as long as Israel was ALSO destroyed along with their statehood!
The so called "palestinian" issue is bullshyte, in fact...other arab country's DO NOT want them in their country's. BUT they are using them, & financing the palestinians to wage nonstop war against Israel because THEY cannot defeat Israel in a war.
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