The parable of the loaves and fishes

[KLATTU]

Jesus was delivering the Sermon on the Mount. The farmers in the village flocked to see him.
One of the apostles said to Jesus. "We don't have enough food to feed the masses"

Jesus replied :" GO the village and command that the baker and the fish merchant give you their loaves and fishes, for they have plenty. Take it, but explain that it is for the greater good"
After a few weeks of that the farmers stooped working their crops,figuring" Why should I bust my ass farming when I get just go get free food from Jesus"
The bakers and fish merchants stopped fishing and baking figuring" why should I bust my ass baking and fishing when they are just going to take the fruits of my labor"
The apostle said to Jesus: " The people are starving can you do something"
Jesus replied : " What am I ? Jesus the miracle caterer? I'm here to save souls,"
"But can't you miraculously produce loaves and fishes?"
" YOu believe that shit ? LAFF. I'm just a dude with a good rap"
Everybody starved

 

[Grandpappy]

But wait! I thought Jesus was a socialist?

 

[Drowning Man]

Well, they did get the Communist manifesto from the Bible…

 

[Cardinal]

Jesus was delivering the Sermon on the Mount. The farmers in the village flocked to see him.
One of the apostles said to Jesus. "We don't have enough food to feed the masses"

Jesus replied :" GO the village and command that the baker and the fish merchant give you their loaves and fishes, for they have plenty. Take it, but explain that it is for the greater good"
After a few weeks of that the farmers stooped working their crops,figuring" Why should I bust my ass farming when I get just go get free food from Jesus"
The bakers and fish merchants stopped fishing and baking figuring" why should I bust my ass baking and fishing when they are just going to take the fruits of my labor"
The apostle said to Jesus: " The people are starving can you do something"
Jesus replied : " What am I ? Jesus the miracle caterer? I'm here to save souls,"
"But can't you miraculously produce loaves and fishes?"
" YOu believe that shit ? LAFF. I'm just a dude with a good rap"
Everybody starved

Granted, I’m not a Christian and not a big bible reader, but I thought I remembered Jesus’s story ending differently.

 

[Exquisitor]

Jesus was delivering the Sermon on the Mount. The farmers in the village flocked to see him.
One of the apostles said to Jesus. "We don't have enough food to feed the masses"

Jesus replied :" GO the village and command that the baker and the fish merchant give you their loaves and fishes, for they have plenty. Take it, but explain that it is for the greater good"
After a few weeks of that the farmers stooped working their crops,figuring" Why should I bust my ass farming when I get just go get free food from Jesus"
The bakers and fish merchants stopped fishing and baking figuring" why should I bust my ass baking and fishing when they are just going to take the fruits of my labor"
The apostle said to Jesus: " The people are starving can you do something"
Jesus replied : " What am I ? Jesus the miracle caterer? I'm here to save souls,"
"But can't you miraculously produce loaves and fishes?"
" YOu believe that shit ? LAFF. I'm just a dude with a good rap"
Everybody starved

A little PO about something?

That's why He went the way he did.

Not only that, but there, you can't interfere, must bestow self determination of the material, must get permission, can only act in concert with the cosmic law.

Christ had two choices, make himself King, or make the impression he did.

Mankind must become Master themselves, then they can say, "Master." For they will know what they're talking about.

 

[Monica33]

Granted, I’m not a Christian and not a big bible reader, but I thought I remembered Jesus’s story ending differently.

You are right but they cut out the juicy bits when they rigged the composition of the Bible books at Nicea in 325AD .

In Enoch we are told that the Romans got to hear about the scams Jesus got up to and forced him to prepare the food for Herod one feast day .

Of course under close scrutiny Jesus was unable to feed the courtiers and that is why Herod had him banged to rights .That's the real reason his cousin John had his head lobbed off -- a clever way to teach that naughty Nazarene to behave himself and not pretend to be an ungodly Fake News merchant .

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Jesus was delivering the Sermon on the Mount. The farmers in the village flocked to see him.
One of the apostles said to Jesus. "We don't have enough food to feed the masses"

Jesus replied :" GO the village and command that the baker and the fish merchant give you their loaves and fishes, for they have plenty. Take it, but explain that it is for the greater good"
After a few weeks of that the farmers stooped working their crops,figuring" Why should I bust my ass farming when I get just go get free food from Jesus"
The bakers and fish merchants stopped fishing and baking figuring" why should I bust my ass baking and fishing when they are just going to take the fruits of my labor"
The apostle said to Jesus: " The people are starving can you do something"
Jesus replied : " What am I ? Jesus the miracle caterer? I'm here to save souls,"
"But can't you miraculously produce loaves and fishes?"
" YOu believe that shit ? LAFF. I'm just a dude with a good rap"
Everybody starved

I'm not sure if you're trying to tell me that religion is full of shit, or crapitalism is full of shit, but either way I agree with both.

Good job, very convincing.

 

[BlueTex]

Jesus was delivering the Sermon on the Mount. The farmers in the village flocked to see him.
One of the apostles said to Jesus. "We don't have enough food to feed the masses"

Jesus replied :" GO the village and command that the baker and the fish merchant give you their loaves and fishes, for they have plenty. Take it, but explain that it is for the greater good"
After a few weeks of that the farmers stooped working their crops,figuring" Why should I bust my ass farming when I get just go get free food from Jesus"
The bakers and fish merchants stopped fishing and baking figuring" why should I bust my ass baking and fishing when they are just going to take the fruits of my labor"
The apostle said to Jesus: " The people are starving can you do something"
Jesus replied : " What am I ? Jesus the miracle caterer? I'm here to save souls,"
"But can't you miraculously produce loaves and fishes?"
" YOu believe that shit ? LAFF. I'm just a dude with a good rap"
Everybody starved

You have to sink pretty low to misrepresent one of the miracles of Jesus to support a political view... To @KLATTU, are you a Christian?

When Jesus heard of it, he withdrew in a boat to a deserted place by himself. The crowds heard of this and followed him on foot from their towns.
When he disembarked and saw the vast crowd, his heart was moved with pity for them, and he cured their sick.
When it was evening, the disciples approached him and said, “This is a deserted place and it is already late; dismiss the crowds so that they can go to the villages and buy food for themselves.”
[Jesus] said to them, “There is no need for them to go away; give them some food yourselves.”
But they said to him, “Five loaves and two fish are all we have here.”
Then he said, “Bring them here to me,”
and he ordered the crowds to sit down on the grass. Taking* the five loaves and the two fish, and looking up to heaven, he said the blessing, broke the loaves, and gave them to the disciples, who in turn gave them to the crowds.
They all ate and were satisfied, and they picked up the fragments left over*—twelve wicker baskets full.
Those who ate were about five thousand men, not counting women and children.

Matthew, CHAPTER 14 | USCCB

CHAPTER 14 Herod’s Opinion of Jesus. 1* a At that time Herod the tetrarch* b heard of the reputation of Jesusc 2and said to hi

bible.usccb.org

 

[Luckyone]

Jesus was delivering the Sermon on the Mount. The farmers in the village flocked to see him.
One of the apostles said to Jesus. "We don't have enough food to feed the masses"

Jesus replied :" GO the village and command that the baker and the fish merchant give you their loaves and fishes, for they have plenty. Take it, but explain that it is for the greater good"
After a few weeks of that the farmers stooped working their crops,figuring" Why should I bust my ass farming when I get just go get free food from Jesus"
The bakers and fish merchants stopped fishing and baking figuring" why should I bust my ass baking and fishing when they are just going to take the fruits of my labor"
The apostle said to Jesus: " The people are starving can you do something"
Jesus replied : " What am I ? Jesus the miracle caterer? I'm here to save souls,"
"But can't you miraculously produce loaves and fishes?"
" YOu believe that shit ? LAFF. I'm just a dude with a good rap"
Everybody starved

Why am I not surprised at you putting out this fake story and using Jesus as an example? You show yourself to be a selfish person, Klattu.

I am not going to debate religion with you as religion has to do with faith in others and you have no faith in anyone but yourself. As such, you cannot understand what life (and humanity) is all about. Nonetheless, I will address your post with something that even you know is true.

What you sow is what you will reap.

Slap a person and he will slap back, Do a generous and unselfish action for someone and they are likely to do the same for you. Common sense knowledge of what humans generally are. All for one and one for all? Life has shown us that works better than Me for Me and screw everyone else.

Then again, some people are incapable of thinking of anyone but themselves. There are takers and there are givers and takers take, take, and take and ultimately they become targets for other takers that are more powerful that will take everything from them. The problem is that takers never have anyone that will help them in any way and therefore in "sowing what you reap", what you will end up reaping is someone else taking everything from you and there will be no help for you.

In addition and thinking about how you sow what you reap, if you kill or severely damage a person, that family is likely to hate you for the rest of your life. Help someone out of a deep hole and he (and his family) are likely to be grateful to you for the rest of the lives. As such, it is not just the person you took from that is against you but also all of those that love that person are now suddenly against you even if you have not had contact with them.

That is actually what Jesus (the man and not the God) was teaching. Give of yourself and you will receive back. Take away from others and ultimately everything will be taken from you.

I don't expect you to understand but this post is more giving info to the readers of your post than to help you understand. You cannot teach a blind-by-choice person anything he does not want to see.

Common sense, no?

 

[KLATTU]

I'm not sure if you're trying to tell me that religion is full of shit, or crapitalism is full of shit, but either way I agree with both.

Good job, very convincing.

Religion is not all full of shit-just some aspects of it.
You couldn't be further off in regards to capitalism.
Thanks for the response though. I think you are always an educated thought provoking poster!

 

[Luckyone]

I'm not sure if you're trying to tell me that religion is full of shit, or crapitalism is full of shit, but either way I agree with both.

Good job, very convincing.

See my post #9 and see if you do have common sense or you simply don't give a s*** about others.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I think you are always an educated thought provoking poster!

You yankin' me?

 

[less right]

Granted, I’m not a Christian and not a big bible reader, but I thought I remembered Jesus’s story ending differently.

They'll throw Jesus under the bus if they think it makes a point for them and then claim dems are godless for the win.

 

[Jay59]

But wait! I thought Jesus was a socialist?

Jesus was the opposite, emphasizing personal duty to care. He is also the one who said that there would always be poor.

Granted, I’m not a Christian and not a big bible reader, but I thought I remembered Jesus’s story ending differently.

Ya' think?

You are right but they cut out the juicy bits when they rigged the composition of the Bible books at Nicea in 325AD .

They didn't. That happened centuries later.

Nicea was about the heresy of Arius.

Arian controversy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In Enoch we are told that the Romans got to hear about the scams Jesus got up to and forced him to prepare the food for Herod one feast day .

There was some weird shit written in the Roman period. That's why the Canon was formed. Christians cared about getting the facts right.

Of course under close scrutiny Jesus was unable to feed the courtiers and that is why Herod had him banged to rights .That's the real reason his cousin John had his head lobbed off -- a clever way to teach that naughty Nazarene to behave himself and not pretend to be an ungodly Fake News merchant .

I would say that you should write fiction but clearly you already do.

Why am I not surprised at you putting out this fake story and using Jesus as an example? You show yourself to be a selfish person, Klattu.

The irony.

 

[americanwoman]

Jesus was delivering the Sermon on the Mount. The farmers in the village flocked to see him.
One of the apostles said to Jesus. "We don't have enough food to feed the masses"

Jesus replied :" GO the village and command that the baker and the fish merchant give you their loaves and fishes, for they have plenty. Take it, but explain that it is for the greater good"
After a few weeks of that the farmers stooped working their crops,figuring" Why should I bust my ass farming when I get just go get free food from Jesus"
The bakers and fish merchants stopped fishing and baking figuring" why should I bust my ass baking and fishing when they are just going to take the fruits of my labor"
The apostle said to Jesus: " The people are starving can you do something"
Jesus replied : " What am I ? Jesus the miracle caterer? I'm here to save souls,"
"But can't you miraculously produce loaves and fishes?"
" YOu believe that shit ? LAFF. I'm just a dude with a good rap"
Everybody starved

I can tell you have never had to use a food bank.

You are pretty condescending in your thoughts about the work ethic of the people who do.

 

[armycowboy]

Jesus was delivering the Sermon on the Mount. The farmers in the village flocked to see him.
One of the apostles said to Jesus. "We don't have enough food to feed the masses"

Jesus replied :" GO the village and command that the baker and the fish merchant give you their loaves and fishes, for they have plenty. Take it, but explain that it is for the greater good"
After a few weeks of that the farmers stooped working their crops,figuring" Why should I bust my ass farming when I get just go get free food from Jesus"
The bakers and fish merchants stopped fishing and baking figuring" why should I bust my ass baking and fishing when they are just going to take the fruits of my labor"
The apostle said to Jesus: " The people are starving can you do something"
Jesus replied : " What am I ? Jesus the miracle caterer? I'm here to save souls,"
"But can't you miraculously produce loaves and fishes?"
" YOu believe that shit ? LAFF. I'm just a dude with a good rap"
Everybody starved

I bet you thought this was clever, while you were typing it out.

 

[Luckyone]

Religion is not all full of shit-just some aspects of it.
You couldn't be further off in regards to capitalism.
Thanks for the response though. I think you are always an educated thought provoking poster!

Another fact of life that you always need to consider, especially when you are a "taker"!

 

[Grandpappy]

As I said in another thread, the proponents of Marxism in the US use religious "goodness and mercy" ideals to promote their filth by pushing the benevolence of the state as the substitute.
Americans don't respond well to the "class struggle" BS line.

 

[Luckyone]

As I said in another thread, the proponents of Marxism in the US use religious "goodness and mercy" ideals to promote their filth by pushing the benevolence of the state as the substitute.
Americans don't respond well to the "class struggle" BS line.

Grandpappy, you truly are blind-by-choice, aren't you. Previously, I thought you mind was failing you because of your age but repeating the same BS, suggests it is not your mind but you blind-by-choice beliefs.

Marxism uses "goodness and mercy"? Yes, I guess they do but does that mean than everyone that believes in "goodness and mercy" is a Marxist?

"promote their filth by pushing benevolence of the state as a substitute". Benevolence is filth? a substitute for what? greed and power? Are those good?

"Americans don't respond well the the "class-struggle" BS line"? What Americans are you talking about, the rich ones that has no class struggle? To my knowledge. 66% of Americans are suffering from class struggle. Do you mean to say that 66% is unselfish and want to give their money to the rich?

What a load of total unthinking BS you put out Pappy.

 

[Grandpappy]

Grandpappy, you truly are blind-by-choice, aren't you. Previously, I thought you mind was failing you because of your age but repeating the same BS, suggests it is not your mind but you blind-by-choice beliefs.

Marxism uses "goodness and mercy"? Yes, I guess they do but does that mean than everyone that believes in "goodness and mercy" is a Marxist?

"promote their filth by pushing benevolence of the state as a substitute". Benevolence is filth? a substitute for what? greed and power? Are those good?

"Americans don't respond well the the "class-struggle" BS line"? What Americans are you talking about, the rich ones that has no class struggle? To my knowledge. 66% of Americans are suffering from class struggle. Do you mean to say that 66% is unselfish and want to give their money to the rich?

What a load of total unthinking BS you put out Pappy.

I'm glad you at least read my post. You sure won't get the truth from left wing sources.

 

[KLATTU]

I can tell you have never had to use a food bank.

You are pretty condescending in your thoughts about the work ethic of the people who do.

I volunteer at a food bank 3 x a week

 

[americanwoman]

I volunteer at a food bank 3 x a week

It's sad then that you have such a poor attitude about the kind of people who show up to the food bank. Do you think those people getting free food from your food bank stop busting their asses because of the food you give them?

After a few weeks of that the farmers stooped working their crops,figuring" Why should I bust my ass farming when I get just go get free food from Jesus"

 

[Luckyone]

I'm glad you at least read my post. You sure won't get the truth from left wing sources.

Left wing sources?

First of all, I don't rely on any "sources" (other than Google and Youtube) to get my information. I check everything available to educate myself on a topic before I generate my opinion. Once my opinion is set, it is based on fact, data, and tangible information. I never use anyone's opinion to form my own opinion. I am my own man.

Where do you get your information and how come you never put up links (as I do) that shows that you researched the subject fully. My view on you is that everything you do is based on the "set" biases that you have and have had for many years. I never see you doubt any of your own beliefs. I doubt mine all the time, until I confirm them fully.

How come you do not do the same but then have the audacity to put up this kind of a post where you doubt me? I do not open my mouth to say anything I can't prove and the few times that I have actually messed up (because of a lack of research), I acknowledged my mistake and apologized.

Do you have any principles and ethics that you live by? If you do, let me know what they are.

Mine are clear and stated in my Avatar. I believe in morals, ethics, principles and humanity. They are not political goals but life goals that apply to everything.

 

[Luckyone]

I volunteer at a food bank 3 x a week

and how many of the people you help feed do you believe are just "taking advantage of the program to get free food"? What percentage of those people are just lazy bums that use the system to eat and get free stuff?

 

[Grandpappy]

Left wing sources?

First of all, I don't rely on any "sources" (other than Google and Youtube) to get my information. I check everything available to educate myself on a topic before I generate my opinion. Once my opinion is set, it is based on fact, data, and tangible information. I never use anyone's opinion to form my own opinion. I am my own man.

Where do you get your information and how come you never put up links (as I do) that shows that you researched the subject fully. My view on you is that everything you do is based on the "set" biases that you have and have had for many years. I never see you doubt any of your own beliefs. I doubt mine all the time, until I confirm them fully.

How come you do not do the same but then have the audacity to put up this kind of a post where you doubt me? I do not open my mouth to say anything I can't prove and the few times that I have actually messed up (because of a lack of research), I acknowledged my mistake and apologized.

Do you have any principles and ethics that you live by? If you do, let me know what they are.

Mine are clear and stated in my Avatar. I believe in morals, ethics, principles and humanity. They are not political goals but life goals that apply to everything.

I've posted multiple articles verifying my posts.
Unfortunately, these articles are many times supressed by the very same corporate entities you say you get information from.