The Palestinian Movement

[ObamaYoMoma]

Is it true that the Palestinian movement is a legitimate nationalist movement instead of a religiously motivated movement camouflaged as a nationalist movement and that the Palestinians are a real historical people with valid nationalist claims?

Arab-Israeli Wars As Preface To The Third Wave

The Arab wars against Israel in 1948, 1967, and 1973 were really a preface to the Islamic third wave of global conquest. Contrary to popular belief, in Palestine the religious motive of Jihad, later cleverly disguised as secular nationalism by intervention of the Soviet Union starting in 1964, has always been the driver of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Even history revisionist Benny Morris, a historian of the Arab-Israeli conflict considered by many to be an apologist for the Arabs, correctly argues that it was religion rather than nationalism that inspired the 1948 invasion of Israel. He considers it a mistake to ignore the religious rhetoric that accompanied the 1948 assault by Arab armies. "The 1948 War, from the Arabs' perspective," he writes, "was a war of religion as much as, if not more than, a nationalist war over territory."[17]

The Muslim Brotherhood, the mufti of Egypt, Egypt's King Farouk, King 'Abdullah of Transjordan, and many others spoke of a holy war, a jihad against the Jews. It was not a nationalist struggle then, nor is it today. The "[violence] did not emerge only from 'modern' nationalist passions; it also drew on powerful religious wellsprings. Nothing, it seemed, could mobilize the Palestinian Arab masses for action more readily than Muslim religious rhetoric and symbols."
Middle East and Terrorism: The Third Wave Part II

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Middle East and Terrorism: The Third Wave Part I
Middle East and Terrorism: The Third Wave Part II
Middle East and Terrorism: The Third Wave Part III

 

[ido_]

You have around 4 million people in Gaza and the West Bank that believe in the Palestinian nationality, does it really matter if it is legitimate or not? You think you can convince them otherwise?

 

[ObamaYoMoma]

You have around 4 million people in Gaza and the West Bank that believe in the Palestinian nationality, does it really matter if it is legitimate or not? You think you can convince them otherwise?

You have around 4 million people using false pretenses and fake nationalist aspirations to justify an illegal war of aggression that in reality is a genocidal jihad for Islamic expansion. Yet, according to you it doesn’t matter. Nevertheless, maybe it isn’t important to you, but I think it is very important for people to understand that the Palestinian people were created out of whole cloth in Moscow in 1964 as a strategic KGB disinformation campaign so that people can understand the massive deception and how they have been misled.

 

[ObamaYoMoma]

In addition, if it is a secular nationalist movement it is assumed that once those nationalist aspirations have been realized peace will finally be achieved. However, in reality secular nationalism is not their true motives, since the reality is their true motives are genocidal and identical to the motives of Hamas. Therefore the creation of a state in the West Bank would not result in peace, but in another launching pad for jihad, and I think that is very important for people to understand.

 

[donsutherland1]

You have around 4 million people in Gaza and the West Bank that believe in the Palestinian nationality, does it really matter if it is legitimate or not? You think you can convince them otherwise?

You make the key point that at least some miss: Policy makers must deal with the world as it actually is, not according to one's preferred mythology.