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The Origins of WWII

Hornburger said:
WWII's origins date back to the outcome of WWI. The Allies (Britain, France) wanted Germany to repay them for the war and put Germany down so they would never start another war again. Because of the German Depression, people got desperate and Hitler was able to rise to power. During his reign, he improved the military in order to improve the economy, and then he used that military power for his plans...

Germany was the agressor nation...they were the ones that invaded the Sudetenland, Poland...Britain and the Allies appeased to Germany, letting it have the invaded land in exchange for an empty promise that he wouldnt invade more. But he did. And by that, Germany was the aggressor nation, and Britain and the Allies did not want war.

The depression that the Germans experience was much worse than much of the world's depression due to the Treaty of Versailles that was forced on the Germans. The Treaty of Versailles was essientially a treaty of revenge and World War II was Germany's revenge for the Treaty of Versailles, so revenge has a vicious circle.
 
September 11 was revenge and payback for US war crimes where the US killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions of innocent civilians around the globe. Revenge has this circle that never ends.
 
Did I ever say the USA was perfect? No, I didn't. The purpose of the state is to keep its citizens as safe and happy as it can. Nothing about invading other countries.

You are very naive.A state that does not persue the acquisition of power is destined to die.Do you honestly think that all the USA has been doing over the last 100 years is making "its citizens as safe and happy as it can"?


...Chruchill was pressuring the USA to join in, not the other way arround...And we did lend-lease with all of the Allies, but probably not nearly as much with the USSR.

I suggest that you read David Irving`s "Churchill`s War" volume 1 and read for yourself how Churchill maintained an unnecessary war at the behest of American jews BEFORE the USA entered the conflict OFFICIALLY.

With Germany invading everywhere in sight, how can one not think the UK would be next? That is how its soveereignty was endangered.

Again,how naive.Not a shread of evidence or a decent argument to support your theory that Britain`s soveeignity was under threat.Sounds like wartime propaganda to me.The only trouble is people like you are still gullibly swallowing it hook,line and sinker.

I'll work on finding some.


Give examples of history, and nothing from the bible. I don't trust it.

But you forget,the Old Testament is history to the jews!


You do that.


ehh, it's not worth finding the exact page, I just recall it in Mein Kampf.[/QUOTE]

How convenient considering the point was important to you at the time.
 
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Aryan Imperium said:
You are very naive.A state that does not persue the acquisition of power is destined to die.Do you honestly think that all the USA has been doing over the last 100 years is making "its citizens as safe and happy as it can"?
Again, did I say the USA was perfect? A state pursuing the acquisition of power is destined to die...look at Rome, Greece, Germany, etc.

I suggest that you read David Irving`s "Churchill`s War" volume 1 and read for yourself how Churchill maintained an unnecessary war at the behest of American jews BEFORE the USA entered the conflict OFFICIALLY.
Churchill wasn't leader until Britain already decleared war...

Again,how naive.Not a shread of evidence or a decent argument to support your theory that Britain`s soveeignity was under threat.Sounds like wartime propaganda to me.The only trouble is people like you are still gullibly swallowing it hook,line and sinker.
And you have no decent argument showing how the Jews were at fault. I could go find evidence if I had the time; but frankly, I am too busy with other things right now to be overly concerned about it. And to go along the same lines as you, it sounds like you are under Nazi propaganda, very gullible. Your gullibility only depends on your opinion. People have different opinions, so stop being so ignorant.

But you forget,the Old Testament is history to the jews!
It is supposed to be coming from God or some crap like that. It is faulty and unreliable information.

How convenient considering the point was important to you at the time.
I never knew you were psycic! I never said it was important to me; the whole thing with Hitler and his Aryan race is, in my opinion, retarded. It is obvious in all the pictures I have seen Hitler had brown eyes, and I recall him saying blond hair was Aryan. I just don't have time to go around looking for useless stuff that has little effect on me. I apologize for having a life.
 
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Again, did I say the USA was perfect? A state pursuing the acquisition of power is destined to die...look at Rome, Greece, Germany, etc.

States are organic and are subject to the various stages of organic existence,birth,youth,maturity,senility and death as we all are.
A state that is young and vigerous will not perish through the acquisition of power.At worst it may mutate.



Churchill wasn't leader until Britain already decleared war...

Very naive aren`t you? Those who are the true power brokers do not occupy political office.Influence within politics can be present from many different quarters.


And you have no decent argument showing how the Jews were at fault. I could go find evidence if I had the time; but frankly, I am too busy with other things right now to be overly concerned about it. And to go along the same lines as you, it sounds like you are under Nazi propaganda, very gullible. Your gullibility only depends on your opinion. People have different opinions, so stop being so ignorant.

I recognise peoples right to form their own opinions.It is the liberals such as yourself that attempt to deny my right to express those opinions.Any ignorance therefore is being displayed by you.


It is supposed to be coming from God or some crap like that. It is faulty and unreliable information.

Oh but the jews have built a claim upon Palestine by that crap.

I never knew you were psycic! I never said it was important to me; the whole thing with Hitler and his Aryan race is, in my opinion, retarded. It is obvious in all the pictures I have seen Hitler had brown eyes, and I recall him saying blond hair was Aryan. I just don't have time to go around looking for useless stuff that has little effect on me. I apologize for having a life.[/QUOTE]

No,he has blue eyes.If you are going to "recall" Hitler`s words then I suggest that you supply a source!
 
Hitler`s eyes.
Looks like the palest blue to me.
Lt me know if you want to see any more close up images of the great man!

So 1 and out of 2 isn't so bad I guess
:roll:

Oh and I wouldn't really consider that evidence as its a drawing
 
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FinnMacCool said:
So 1 and out of 2 isn't so bad I guess
:roll:

Oh and I wouldn't really consider that evidence as its a drawing

Thank you. We know full well the nazi habit of lying and rewriting history to fit their warped reality.
 
Aryan Imperium said:
States are organic and are subject to the various stages of organic existence,birth,youth,maturity,senility and death as we all are.
A state that is young and vigerous will not perish through the acquisition of power.At worst it may mutate.
lol, Rome died because he tried to acquire too much power. Because of all the land it had, it couldn't defend all its boundaries. It's borders got too big, it's army too large and expensive, etc. etc.

Very naive aren`t you? Those who are the true power brokers do not occupy political office.Influence within politics can be present from many different quarters.
You can only use power if you have power. But in any case, describe what the book was talking about, and what Churchill did to get you all uptight.

I recognise peoples right to form their own opinions.It is the liberals such as yourself that attempt to deny my right to express those opinions.Any ignorance therefore is being displayed by you.
No, you don't let people have their own opinions. For example, we have a difference in opinion in the state's purpose. You can't accept my purpose for the state, yet I can see yours, even if I disagree with it. And you again show your ignorance. I am not a liberal, so know the facts before you speak. If anything, I am more conservative.

Oh but the jews have built a claim upon Palestine by that crap.
The only reason we are talking about the Old Testament is that you wanted to prove how the Jews are to blame for Germany's troubles. Prove it through means other than the Old Testament.

No,he has blue eyes.If you are going to "recall" Hitler`s words then I suggest that you supply a source!
Description of a "pure" Aryan; From a leaflet of the Nazi Race, 1929.
"The Aryan race is tall, long legged, slim. The race is narrow-faced, with a narrow forehead, a narrow high built nose and a lower jaw and prominent chin, the skin is rosy bright and the blood shines through...the hair is smooth, straight, or wavy-possibly curly in childhood. The colour is blond."
 
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Description ]of a "pure" Aryan; From a leaflet of the Nazi Race, 1929.
"The Aryan race is tall, long legged, slim. The race is narrow-faced, with a narrow forehead, a narrow high built nose and a lower jaw and prominent chin, the skin is rosy bright and the blood shines through...the hair is smooth, straight, or wavy-possibly curly in childhood. The colour is blond."

Ahh, so basically, an Aryan is a prime candidate for skin cancer if he goes out in the sun too long. Better get that suntan2000.
 
Originally Posted by Aryan Imperium
Hitler`s eyes.
Looks like the palest blue to me.
Lt me know if you want to see any more close up images of the great man!

hahaha...its not even a freakin photograph... I could make his eyes look yellow if I wanted to with photoshop.
 
Europe was destroyed by America and the UK:

Todays European cities are looking more and more like Africa and the Middle East.

This is why the "cries for war" by the internationalists have no resonance with me.

I can see what they've done to Europe and to America.

They are racist to the point that they tell you that your own people have no right to the land inhabited by their people for 10,000 years.

Nations built from nothing by their forefathers.

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Lucidthots said:
Europe was destroyed by America and the UK:

Todays European cities are looking more and more like Africa and the Middle East.

This is why the "cries for war" by the internationalists have no resonance with me.

I can see what they've done to Europe and to America.

They are racist to the point that they tell you that your own people have no right to the land inhabited by their people for 10,000 years.

Nations built from nothing by their forefathers.
SA



Sorry man... your nationalism is soon gonna be a thing of the past. Its impossible to have separate, cohesive cultures in this information age. Globalization is a step forward. Whats wrong with Europe and the US anyways, they're leading the world in living standards, technology, and culture. Asia and South America are catchin up... and hopefully africa someday will too...is there something wrong with this?
 
FinnMacCool said:
So 1 and out of 2 isn't so bad I guess
:roll:

Oh and I wouldn't really consider that evidence as its a drawing

See page 15 of John Toland`s "Hitler". He is described as having blue eyes and light brown hair.
 
nkgupta80 said:
hahaha...its not even a freakin photograph... I could make his eyes look yellow if I wanted to with photoshop.

John Toland in his biography on Hitler[page 15] describes Hitler`s hair as light brown and his eyes as blue.
 
nkgupta80 said:
Sorry man... your nationalism is soon gonna be a thing of the past. Its impossible to have separate, cohesive cultures in this information age. Globalization is a step forward. Whats wrong with Europe and the US anyways, they're leading the world in living standards, technology, and culture. Asia and South America are catchin up... and hopefully africa someday will too...is there something wrong with this?

So you reduce all that is of human value to economics.This is a typically jewish thing to do,whether you are a jew or not is neither here nor there.People like you think like jews,you are materialists.
 
Aryan Imperium said:
So you reduce all that is of human value to economics.This is a typically jewish thing to do,whether you are a jew or not is neither here nor there.People like you think like jews,you are materialists.

okay, I know I am irreverent and hateful towards you most of the time, but I am seriously asking this question, Imperium...do you and your comrades sincerely believe this global jewish conspiracy thing you espouse constantly...and if so...why? it just seems pretty grand scale to be recognized only by a fringe global minority like the nazis.
 
lol, Rome died because he tried to acquire too much power. Because of all the land it had, it couldn't defend all its boundaries. It's borders got too big, it's army too large and expensive, etc. etc.

Rome died because sooner or later it had to but the catalyst for its collapse was miscegenation which had reduced the Aryan-Roman core of the empire and allowed itself to implode,though the various aspects of its fall were complex and occured over a very long period of time.


You can only use power if you have power. But in any case, describe what the book was talking about, and what Churchill did to get you all uptight.

Churchill is generally regarded as a war mongerer and was so even before the second world war.If you know anything about his history you will know that this is so.All he cared about along with Blair and Bush is making a name for himself,to make his mark in history.He was willing to allow the British Empire to be destroyed and Europe to fall into ruins purely for the persuit of a needless war.His war did not have a political goal apart from winning.Only a lunatic or a traitor would persue a war on such a basis.
States as a rule do not or should not persue war unless that state will gain from it and it has a reasonable chance of securing its goals.
Britain,even if it had known in advance that it would win the war could not gain anything tangible from a victory.It destroyed itself far more thoroughly than Hitler could have achieved or wanted to achieve.
Therefore Churchill was a traitor.We owe the current multiculti shithole to that arsehole`s race treason.



No, you don't let people have their own opinions. For example, we have a difference in opinion in the state's purpose. You can't accept my purpose for the state, yet I can see yours, even if I disagree with it. And you again show your ignorance. I am not a liberal, so know the facts before you speak. If anything, I am more conservative.

On the contrary I am allowing you to have an opinion and to express it openly.My detractors by and large [not all of them] have tried to defame my reputation and would seek,if they had the power, to ensure that people such as myself either did not exist or were prevented from expressing our views.I have been labelled homosexual,insane and evil all for expressing a contrary view.I don`t call that liberal and that if anything is "ignorant".They,not I are the real fascists,the real hate-mongers.

The only reason we are talking about the Old Testament is that you wanted to prove how the Jews are to blame for Germany's troubles. Prove it through means other than the Old Testament.

I have posted evidence from the Internet and other sources and it has either been ignored,ridiculed or attacked without anyone addressing the actual issues raised.Most of my opponents have attacked my character and have ignored the issues at hand.They must be really afraid.


Description of a "pure" Aryan; From a leaflet of the Nazi Race, 1929.
"The Aryan race is tall, long legged, slim. The race is narrow-faced, with a narrow forehead, a narrow high built nose and a lower jaw and prominent chin, the skin is rosy bright and the blood shines through...the hair is smooth, straight, or wavy-possibly curly in childhood. The colour is blond."[/QUOTE]

I suggest that you post some evidence that is more specific than "leaflet of the Nazi Race,1929".Sources please!
 
jallman said:
okay, I know I am irreverent and hateful towards you most of the time, but I am seriously asking this question, Imperium...do you and your comrades sincerely believe this global jewish conspiracy thing you espouse constantly...and if so...why? it just seems pretty grand scale to be recognized only by a fringe global minority like the nazis.

One does not have to be a National Socialist or a racialist to recognise that the jews have and always have had an inordinate amount of power.A lot of power concentrated within a small community of people.
The jews are over represented on the boards of multinational companies,the media,finance and politics.They are adept at blending in with their host communities,often changing their names,intermarrying etc but they serve their own interests first,over and above the countries that were kind enough to give them refuge. Now I do not blame them for seeking their own interest.That is nature`s way. The Aryan by contrast is gullible and foolish and the jew has always taken advantage of him. In a way he the jew has far more cunning and naked intelligence than the Aryan. Our kindness will be our destruction.
The jew now occupies a privileged position and is practically above reproach because now in 2005 any criticism of the jews orisrael is branded "anti-semitic" and that has become THE new Thought Crime.
 
Aryan Imperium said:
One does not have to be a National Socialist or a racialist to recognise that the jews have and always have had an inordinate amount of power.A lot of power concentrated within a small community of people.
The jews are over represented on the boards of multinational companies,the media,finance and politics.They are adept at blending in with their host communities,often changing their names,intermarrying etc but they serve their own interests first,over and above the countries that were kind enough to give them refuge. Now I do not blame them for seeking their own interest.That is nature`s way. The Aryan by contrast is gullible and foolish and the jew has always taken advantage of him. In a way he the jew has far more cunning and naked intelligence than the Aryan. Our kindness will be our destruction.
The jew now occupies a privileged position and is practically above reproach because now in 2005 any criticism of the jews orisrael is branded "anti-semitic" and that has become THE new Thought Crime.

so do you and other national socialists think that the jews deserve to be rounded up like they were during the holocaust...and do you think the jews take advantage out of some enmity or just as a causation of cultural and biological competition?
 
jallman said:
so do you and other national socialists think that the jews deserve to be rounded up like they were during the holocaust...and do you think the jews take advantage out of some enmity or just as a causation of cultural and biological competition?

I have already stated that I am not an advocate of genocide but I do advocate the forceable removal of the alien elements within our borders,even if that means that state borders have to be withdrwan and populations displaced.
The jew certainly has taken advantage of our credulity and has fermented war and division between nations and peoples of our own blood stock.
Let us not forget that israel lays claim to Palestine on the basis of its earlier genocidal wars against the Canaanites under their bloodthirsty tribal god,yahweh.A "god" that they have forced upon the entire Aryan race for 2,000 years. Xtianity, which is judaism in disguise is the single most important and deadliest weapon that has been used to emasculate our race and is directly responsible for the current prevalent self hatred that whites have for their own race.
 
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