The Origins of WWII

[Aryan Imperium]

The alliance with Poland started in 1921, when Germany was in the depths of their Depression. Once again, you are wrong.

If your allies are attacked, it is a threat to your own country.


A formal treaty was entered into shortly before the war as Britain foresaw that an invasion of Poland was imminent and needed a pretext to declare war on Germany. It was the UK that declared war on Germany and not the other way around.In fact they did this twice last century.
There was no logical reason why Britain should enter into an agreement to protect Poland as a war with Germany would not increase its power base and power is the only logical reason for a state to enter into a war. As Yockey said if a country scores a military victory but a political defeat as Britain did then its victory would be hollow and futile.Britain effectively destroyed itself by making war upon its ethnic fellow Teutons and not only lost its empire as a consequence but its sovereignity as well-both to the USA.
Britain was not under any threat as Hitler wanted an alliance or at least an "understanding" between the two Germanic countries.


...America was not a major factor in the war until Pearl Harbor. Yes, we were building up to war, but we had never declared war. The action involving Germany was all happening in Europe. Anyway, there was no way we were going to side with Germany, Jews or no Jews. Besides the moral issue of genocide, all our economic interests were with the Allies.

Yes you were a major factor.You provided material and aid to Britain and the USSR and you did this before you were at war with Germany.
You also engaged in hostile acts with German shipping and did everything that you could to get in the way of Germany`s war effort.I need not also remind you that the jews who controlled and still control your economy made every effort to stir up trouble and war against Germany from 1933 onwards.


You just completely avoided what I said. You just don't have a valid argument to contradict me.

Anyway, how did he let up at Dunkirk? He did go all out...he just wasn't able to destroy the retreaters.

Crap.You have no understanding at all of what happened.Historians are mystified why Hitler gave the order for his panzers to halt and allow the BEF to get away. He could have destroyed them and he is criticised by historians for not having done so as he may have lost the war on account of this decision alone.He was able to destroy Britain but he did not WANT to as he still hoped for an understanding.He needed Britain to police the rest of the world whilst he focused on Europe.

lol, your favorite leader wasn't even Aryan. He wasn't blond haired or blue eyed. And, HE WAS HALF JEWISH! Sounds like he should have killed himself before leading the German state lol...pretty damn hypocritical.[/QUOTE]

Not that little jewish lie again? There is no EVIDENCE whatsoever that Hitler had any jewish blood and this notion is rejected by most REPUTABLE historians.It is another piece of poisonous propaganda invented by the jews to discredit the great man.
Again on Hitler`s physical charecteristics you are wrong.HE WAS BLUE EYED. Not having blond hair does not make someone unAryan. That is another piece of jewish hate-filled propaganda against Hitler.
You really should get your facts write before you make an arse of yourself on the Internet.

 

[George_Washington]

Yes there will. The ancient Aryan Hindu scriptures prophecy the coming of the Kalki Avatar who will bring this age of Kali Yuga to a close and there will be a violent end to this age,wrongs will be righted. Hitler in comparison to Him will be considered a teddy bear. It is not over yet.

Are you saying Hinduism is an, "Aryan" religion created by the same kind of people that currently inhabit scandinavia today?

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Are you saying Hinduism is an, "Aryan" religion created by the same kind of people that currently inhabit scandinavia today?

It is a fact[though a tiny handful of Indian nationalists and tree hugging multiculturalists may dispute it] that the creators of the Hindu religion were Indo-European invaders into the Indus valley in around 2000BCE.
This was before the existence of nations and ethnic groups,an early dispersal of the Indo-Europeans tribes.
The Vedas and associated literature then belongs to the spiritual heritage of our race,despite the mixed population that currently resides in India.

 

[Hornburger]

A formal treaty was entered into shortly before the war as Britain foresaw that an invasion of Poland was imminent and needed a pretext to declare war on Germany. It was the UK that declared war on Germany and not the other way around.In fact they did this twice last century.
There was no logical reason why Britain should enter into an agreement to protect Poland as a war with Germany would not increase its power base and power is the only logical reason for a state to enter into a war. As Yockey said if a country scores a military victory but a political defeat as Britain did then its victory would be hollow and futile.Britain effectively destroyed itself by making war upon its ethnic fellow Teutons and not only lost its empire as a consequence but its sovereignity as well-both to the USA.
Britain was not under any threat as Hitler wanted an alliance or at least an "understanding" between the two Germanic countries.

I am talking about France. France entered into an alliance with Poland in 1921, and after Poland was attacked they declared war. Britain drew the line at Poland, you can't just go conquering whatever countries you wish to have.

Yes you were a major factor.You provided material and aid to Britain and the USSR and you did this before you were at war with Germany.
You also engaged in hostile acts with German shipping and did everything that you could to get in the way of Germany`s war effort.I need not also remind you that the jews who controlled and still control your economy made every effort to stir up trouble and war against Germany from 1933 onwards.

Not until the U.S. made the Lend-Lease plan in 1941. Until then, the U.S. was deeply isolationist because the American people felt, after WWI, that involvement in the war had more losses than gains. The war put America out of the depression.

Crap.You have no understanding at all of what happened.Historians are mystified why Hitler gave the order for his panzers to halt and allow the BEF to get away. He could have destroyed them and he is criticised by historians for not having done so as he may have lost the war on account of this decision alone.He was able to destroy Britain but he did not WANT to as he still hoped for an understanding.He needed Britain to police the rest of the world whilst he focused on Europe.

Again you avoid the point. Dunkirk has no relevance to this discussion; we discussing the origins of the war, not the war itself. Again, you avoid what I said, so I will post it again.

Britain already tried making peace with Germany by at first letting them have land that Germany was not allowed to invade in exchange for Germany promise that they won’t invade again. And what did they do? Invade again. You actually believe Hitler was going to hold true to that peace? Just look at what he tried to do during the peace with Stalin. No, making peace with Germany is only further appeasing Hitler and lowering Britain’s chances to keep its sovereignty.

Not that little jewish lie again? There is no EVIDENCE whatsoever that Hitler had any jewish blood and this notion is rejected by most REPUTABLE historians.It is another piece of poisonous propaganda invented by the jews to discredit the great man.
Again on Hitler`s physical charecteristics you are wrong.HE WAS BLUE EYED. Not having blond hair does not make someone unAryan. That is another piece of jewish hate-filled propaganda against Hitler.
You really should get your facts write before you make an arse of yourself on the Internet.

Jewish hate-filled propaganda? The hypocrisy!

hahaha, you think Hitler was blue eyed. Find me one picture, from a credible website, that has him blue eyed. :rofl

lolll, in Mein Kempf, Hitler states the superior Aryan race is filled with Blond haired and blue eyed.

How wrong you are!

 

[UtahBill]

Are you able to debate the points that the web site makes or are you going to act according to the American stereotype and be abusive?
Perhaps this issue is beyond you and you are unable to debate effectively?

Perhaps the issue is not worth debating? are you trolling for recruits? this is not a good place to do that. Most here recognize the FACT that Germany will never again have the ability to start a war. Likewise the Japanese.
Read some history books, other than the few that support your obsessions,
and you would know that.
The web site has no credibility, nor do you. The ability to create a web site doesn't mean that any truth will be told there.
BTW, did you know that there is a web site that suggests that Hitler was a homo? He only kept Eva Braun around to keep the rumors from spreading too rapidly.

 

[realist]

Are you able to debate the points that the web site makes or are you going to act according to the American stereotype and be abusive?
Perhaps this issue is beyond you and you are unable to debate effectively?

There is no issue to debate. The German people and world suffered greatly due to Hitler's meth induced grandiose plan of world domination trying to fight a war on two fronts. Germany had recourse, and in time could of rebuilt their country without war, however they chose to follow edipus Adork and rebuild their military and invade Poland, resulting in LOSING the war to be divided between the allies. Your argument of the devil made me do it so to speak is typical of a re-active pant@@itting attitude.

 

[Lucidthots]

There is no issue to debate. The German people and world suffered greatly due to Hitler's meth induced grandiose plan of world domination trying to fight a war on two fronts. Germany had recourse, and in time could of rebuilt their country without war, however they chose to follow edipus Adork and rebuild their military and invade Poland, resulting in LOSING the war to be divided between the allies. Your argument of the devil made me do it so to speak is typical of a re-active pant@@itting attitude.

And today Europe is being flooded with third world Immigrants !

 

[George_Washington]

It is a fact[though a tiny handful of Indian nationalists and tree hugging multiculturalists may dispute it] that the creators of the Hindu religion were Indo-European invaders into the Indus valley in around 2000BCE.
This was before the existence of nations and ethnic groups,an early dispersal of the Indo-Europeans tribes.
The Vedas and associated literature then belongs to the spiritual heritage of our race,despite the mixed population that currently resides in India.

So are you a Hindu then? If so, are many modern Nazis Hindus?

 

[Aryan Imperium]

I am talking about France. France entered into an alliance with Poland in 1921, and after Poland was attacked they declared war. Britain drew the line at Poland, you can't just go conquering whatever countries you wish to have

Grow up,there isn`t a single power within the western world,including your precious USA that has not invaded another country for one reason or another.The purpose of a state is to acquire,maintain and increase power.It has no other dynamic.If it does not do so it will cease to be the master of its own will and destiny.

Not until the U.S. made the Lend-Lease plan in 1941. Until then, the U.S. was deeply isolationist because the American people felt, after WWI, that involvement in the war had more losses than gains. The war put America out of the depression.

The USA was instrumental in pressurising Churchill into maintaining an unnecessary war against Germany.Remember the alien powers that control the USA and why!Also curiously there was no lease-lend arrangement with the USSR.The USA simply gave them millions of dollars of armaments for no repayment.No why do you think that was?/B]


Again you avoid the point. Dunkirk has no relevance to this discussion; we discussing the origins of the war, not the war itself. Again, you avoid what I said, so I will post it again.

It is very relevant as it is maintained by people that Hitler wanted to destroy the UK and the reason why Britain entered into the war was to protect its sovereignity which is patent nonsense.

Britain already tried making peace with Germany by at first letting them have land that Germany was not allowed to invade in exchange for Germany promise that they won’t invade again. And what did they do? Invade again. You actually believe Hitler was going to hold true to that peace? Just look at what he tried to do during the peace with Stalin. No, making peace with Germany is only further appeasing Hitler and lowering Britain’s chances to keep its sovereignty.

You are labouring under the fiction that there was any threat to the UK`s sovereignity.I maintain that there wasn`t.If you believe so state your evidence!


Jewish hate-filled propaganda? The hypocrisy!

"You seem to have a rosy eyed view of the intentions of the jewish people,that they are benign.History dictates otherwise.Even their own scriptures portray a people that gained land in the middle east through genocide.Interesting that they always seek to play the "victim".

hahaha, you think Hitler was blue eyed. Find me one picture, from a credible website, that has him blue eyed. :rofl

Yes,he was blue-eyed as are most northern Europeans.I don`t see why you have a problem with this.I personally don`t give a **** what colour his eyes were but it seems to be important to you. I will find you the picture though!

lolll, in Mein Kempf, Hitler states the superior Aryan race is filled with Blond haired and blue eyed.

Where in "Mein Kampf"? I don`t recall this. I have a copy,so beware!

 

[Aryan Imperium]

So are you a Hindu then? If so, are many modern Nazis Hindus?

I am a Wotanist but I am drawn to Hinduism and Buddhism. I am interested in any Indo-European spirituality.
Many modern National Socialists have this eclectic nature to their spirituality.
The person that has had the greatest influence upon the direction of my views is Julius Evola.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

There is no issue to debate. The German people and world suffered greatly due to Hitler's meth induced grandiose plan of world domination trying to fight a war on two fronts. Germany had recourse, and in time could of rebuilt their country without war, however they chose to follow edipus Adork and rebuild their military and invade Poland, resulting in LOSING the war to be divided between the allies. Your argument of the devil made me do it so to speak is typical of a re-active pant@@itting attitude.

I think war was inevitable as soon as Germany took itself out of the jewish money lenders` orbit.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

Perhaps the issue is not worth debating? are you trolling for recruits? this is not a good place to do that. Most here recognize the FACT that Germany will never again have the ability to start a war. Likewise the Japanese.

I don`t expect to "recruit" you but cyberactivism is an important aspect to 21st century National Socialism and White Nationalism generally.1,000s read these words.
You are right about Germany but that does not concern me.
What is arising in Europa is the European Imperium,prophesied by Francis Parker Yockey.The centre of gravity for this will be Germany.
Yesterday Deutschland,tomorrow Europa!

Read some history books, other than the few that support your obsessions,
and you would know that.
The web site has no credibility, nor do you. The ability to create a web site doesn't mean that any truth will be told there.

The same goes for any web site,no less this one.
I have read many history books over the last 45 years,from all perspectives.I know what I believe and why I believe it.Do you?
Try debating the issues raised from the web site instead of putting the whole site down en masse.That is the mark of a defeatest.

BTW, did you know that there is a web site that suggests that Hitler was a homo? He only kept Eva Braun around to keep the rumors from spreading too rapidly.[/QUOTE]

Hardly any reputable historian believes that crap.More jewish **** stirring.

 

[jallman]

Then **** off my thread! I did nor invite you in and you don`t want to be here.
At least my history is not vetted,written or censored by jews.

God I am thankful for times like this, when I know the joy of ******* pig boy nazis off so bad they froth at the mouth and their bright red suspenders curl. Makes 'em totally unable to articulate when you make them come face to face with the truth that their entire philosophy is founded on lies and it really isnt any races fault that they just plain suck as human beings. Poor nazis...must really bug them that they are caucasians but are most certainly the lowest examples of that ethnicity. To all other races, I must apologize for my Nazi friend here...he is a bit undermedicated and has had a rough life, but pay him no mind...we other whites certainly dont. :lol:

 

[FinnMacCool]

God I am thankful for times like this, when I know the joy of ******* pig boy nazis off so bad they froth at the mouth and their bright red suspenders curl.

Jallman, just letting you know that not all skinheads are nazis. In fact, most aren't. Skinheads have been around for a long time and for some reason recently they've been associated with nazis but really they aren't.

I actually knew a few skinheads so I know what I'm talking about. They are actually completely the opposite of nazis. When the movement first started, their subculture had a lot to do with ska and thats actually where the offensive term 'wigger' came from. It was to describe these skinheads.

As the years went by, the whole Nazi thing caught on to it and decided that the idea of a 'skinhead' would be good to promote their image cause they were working class usually white youth who were mostly socialist etc. By that time, the neo nazis in america were blaming unemployment on immigrants and well thats kinda how it all started.

And it would've really made that much of a deal until the media started to get ahold of these skinhead images and they began to associate it with the huge neo nazi thing and thats why everyone now associates nazis with skinheads.

 

[jallman]

Jallman, just letting you know that not all skinheads are nazis. In fact, most aren't. Skinheads have been around for a long time and for some reason recently they've been associated with nazis but really they aren't.

and I dont recall seeing the word skinhead at all in my post. If you see it, please be so kind as to make it bold and show me.

 

[FinnMacCool]

their bright red suspenders curl

Commonly associated term with skinheads as skinheads tend to shave their heads and wear combat boots with red suspenders.

 

[jallman]

Commonly associated term with skinheads as skinheads tend to shave their heads and wear combat boots with red suspenders.

whatever you say, sport. I tend to limit my association with nazis just because they make me physically ill. I have a few friends who are skinheads, and no, they are not nazis. Of course, I dont recall ever seeing them in red suspenders...but I do love that look of the plaid pants with the white t-shirts...its kinda hot.

 

[FinnMacCool]

note the red braces haha: I think more of the traditional skins wear that.
This skinhead looks kinda meek though. Usually most skinheads look like they're gonna beat the **** out of you.

 

[jallman]

note the red braces haha: I think more of the traditional skins wear that.
This skinhead looks kinda meek though. Usually most skinheads look like they're gonna beat the **** out of you.

awww, he's adorable though. Better get that picture down quick though before aryan comes back with a woodie and tries to eat him.

 

[FinnMacCool]

awww, he's adorable though. Better get that picture down quick though before aryan comes back with a woodie and tries to eat him.

Good point. We don't want Imp to hurt himself. . .

 

[Hornburger]

Grow up,there isn`t a single power within the western world,including your precious USA that has not invaded another country for one reason or another.The purpose of a state is to acquire,maintain and increase power.It has no other dynamic.If it does not do so it will cease to be the master of its own will and destiny.

Did I ever say the USA was perfect? No, I didn't. The purpose of the state is to keep its citizens as safe and happy as it can. Nothing about invading other countries.

The USA was instrumental in pressurising Churchill into maintaining an unnecessary war against Germany.Remember the alien powers that control the USA and why!Also curiously there was no lease-lend arrangement with the USSR.The USA simply gave them millions of dollars of armaments for no repayment.No why do you think that was?

...Chruchill was pressuring the USA to join in, not the other way arround...And we did lend-lease with all of the Allies, but probably not nearly as much with the USSR.

It is very relevant as it is maintained by people that Hitler wanted to destroy the UK and the reason why Britain entered into the war was to protect its sovereignity which is patent nonsense.

With Germany invading everywhere in sight, how can one not think the UK would be next? That is how its soveereignty was endangered.

]You are labouring under the fiction that there was any threat to the UK`s sovereignity.I maintain that there wasn`t.If you believe so state your evidence!

I'll work on finding some.

"You seem to have a rosy eyed view of the intentions of the jewish people,that they are benign.History dictates otherwise.Even their own scriptures portray a people that gained land in the middle east through genocide.Interesting that they always seek to play the "victim".

Give examples of history, and nothing from the bible. I don't trust it.

Yes,he was blue-eyed as are most northern Europeans.I don`t see why you have a problem with this.I personally don`t give a **** what colour his eyes were but it seems to be important to you. I will find you the picture though!

You do that.

Where in "Mein Kampf"? I don`t recall this. I have a copy,so beware!

ehh, it's not worth finding the exact page, I just recall it in Mein Kampf.

 

[teacher]

Much as I'd like to get in on the Nazi bashing, whenever I get on Ayran the thread degrades so much and he gets so mad that it gets shut down. But in the spirit of things I'll steer you to some prepared Nazi bashing. In the basement, top ten lists and teacher abuse. Posts 523, 524, 528, 529, 612. No where else can you get 50, yes count them, 50 Nazi jokes just waiting for your approval. Maybe a new Nazi TT is in order. Yes. Now I'll wait for some inspiration......okay, I'm ready.

 

[George_Washington]

I'm not a Nazi and I'm not defending the Nazis but Aryan is, in fact, correct about there not being concrete proof that Hitler was homosexual. This is just a theory like so many other theories about his personal life. There is so much of Hitler's life that we just don't know about and so historians are left with taking evidence here and there and theorizing about a conclusion. However, we do have plenty of evidence that he was a murderer and a racist.

 

[jallman]

I'm not a Nazi and I'm not defending the Nazis but Aryan is, in fact, correct about there not being concrete proof that Hitler was homosexual. This is just a theory like so many other theories about his personal life. There is so much of Hitler's life that we just don't know about and so historians are left with taking evidence here and there and theorizing about a conclusion. However, we do have plenty of evidence that he was a murderer and a racist.

And insane, and subscribed to some outlandish religious philosophies, and was a short pile of human refuse, and instigated the rise of a party of human refuse...shall we go on? :lol:

 

[realist]

God I am thankful for times like this, when I know the joy of ******* pig boy nazis off so bad they froth at the mouth and their bright red suspenders curl. Makes 'em totally unable to articulate when you make them come face to face with the truth that their entire philosophy is founded on lies and it really isnt any races fault that they just plain suck as human beings. Poor nazis...must really bug them that they are caucasians but are most certainly the lowest examples of that ethnicity. To all other races, I must apologize for my Nazi friend here...he is a bit undermedicated and has had a rough life, but pay him no mind...we other whites certainly dont. :lol:

The sad part is that some impressionable minds listen to these cyber chicken hawks.