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The only thing the Soviets accomplished was the capture of Berlin

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Between 1917 and the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the only thing the Soviets ever accomplished was the victory over the Germans.


Prove me wrong.
 
And the Battle of Stalingrad. And going toe-to-toe with America for decades in the Cold War (not that I like this, but a worthy opponent deserves respect). And keeping the geographically largest nation on Earth intact even as it transitioned to a somewhat democratic country.
 
swing_voter said:
Between 1917 and the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the only thing the Soviets ever accomplished was the victory over the Germans.


Prove me wrong.
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Three rebuttals in less than fifteen minutes, whatcha got?
 
Pic from the surface of Venus taken by the Venera 14 lander.

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swing_voter said:
Between 1917 and the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the only thing the Soviets ever accomplished was the victory over the Germans.


Prove me wrong.
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Sputnik
 
mrjurrs said:
Sputnik
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Sputnik was a little artillery shell with a transponder on it. A modern day rocket hobbyist could do a Sputnik in a weekend. They'd even be able to send back video and other telemetry.

I'm unimpressed.

What else you got?
 
swing_voter said:
Sputnik was a little artillery shell with a transponder on it. A modern day rocket hobbyist could do a Sputnik in a weekend. They'd even be able to send back video and other telemetry.

I'm unimpressed.

What else you got?
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The Columbus egg?
 
In 1921, Russia is a state destroyed by the civil war, a state where industry is practically absent, and many industries do not exist at all, the agriculture of the peasants is at the level of the 18th century... After 30 years, which include years of war that repeatedly ravaged half of the country and destroyed more than 25 million people, Russia is a superpower with all kinds of industries, capable of creating atomic weapons and launching rockets into space. No capitalist state is capable of such a breakthrough.
In the most difficult years of repelling the international capitalist intervention of 1918-1920. (at least 14 countries, including all major capitalist countries and participants in the First World War), during the struggle against the White armies, hunger and all kind of shortages, Vladimir Lenin and the Soviet Russia led by him created Colleges (!!!), dozens (!!!) of scientific centers.
 
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swing_voter said:
Between 1917 and the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the only thing the Soviets ever accomplished was the victory over the Germans. Prove me wrong.
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Space

1957 The first artificial satellite of the Earth.
1959 First flight to the Moon, lander to the Moon, photo of the back side of the Moon.
1961 The first human flight into space.
1964 The flight of the first multi-seat spacecraft.
1966 First soft landing on the moon.
1967 The first smooth descent in the atmosphere of another planet (Venus-4).
1970 The First Lunar Rover.
1971 The first soft landing of the lander on Mars (Mars-3)
.1971 The first single-module orbital station ("Salyut").
1986 The first multi-module orbital station (Mir).
1965 1987 Proton rocket, starting mass 705 t. payload - 23 t. Total launches (until 15.04.2013) - 385. successful - 339
Heavy Soviet rocket " Energia "(starting mass 2400 t. payload 100 t). Note. The American Saturn 5C rocket (from 1967 to 1973 - 13 launches) could put 140 tons into low Earth orbit.
1987 Energia rocket, starting mass 2400 t. payload 140 t.
1985 Rocket engine RD-170/171. thrust 740 t. The RD-180 and RD-181 created on its basis were purchased for a long time by the United States, which by 2015 could not create a similar one. So. in 2015, in the midst of economic sanctions of developed countries against Russia, a contract was signed for the supply of 60 RD-181 engines to the United States worth $ 1 billion.
1988 Flight of the Buran reusable spacecraft (without crew).

The science

1954 The world's first facility for controlled thermonuclear fusion "Tokamak". The plasma temperature of 10 million degrees was reached at the installation. Western countries were able to get a similar result in almost 15 years.
1976 Big Telescope Alt-Azimuthal (BTA). for a long time it was the largest in the world. The primary mirror has a diameter of 6.0 m and weighs 42 t. The focal length is 24 m. the mass of the moving part of the telescope is 650 t.
1975 ROTAN-600 - the world's largest ring radio telescope with a variable profile antenna with a diameter of about 600 m.
1928 Discovery of Alpha decay (a type of radioactive decay).
1932 VCR with magnetic heads mounted on a rotating drum. Invented by K. L. Yusupov.
1941 The world's first microwave oven was developed and tested in the USSR (Institute of Meat Industry).
1954 Invention of the maser and laser. Soviet academicians A. M. Prokhorov and N. G. Basov received the Nobel Prize for their invention in 1964.
1957 A synchrophasotron was created in Dubna
1960 The world's first collider
 
Computers and networks

1957 The world's first prototype portable mobile phone (range 20 - 30 km). In 1958, the device together with the power supply weighed about 0.5 kg. The first mobile phone in the United States appeared in 1973.
1958 computer M-20 at the time of creation was the fastest in the world.
1958 In the USSR, the world's first network of several computers was created, working at a distance of up to 200 km (including on a mobile platform!). In the West, such technologies appeared much later.
1959 In a letter addressed to Khrushchev, Anatoly Kitov presented the project "Red Book", which provided for the creation of a Unified State Network of Computing Centers in the USSR, which would unite the management of the army and the national economy.
1962 Viktor Glushkov prepared a draft of Soviet electronic money.
1964 Under the leadership of Victor Glushkov, a project was developed of Unified state network of computing centers
1952-1966 BESM-1-BESM-6 (large electronic counting machines) - the most famous Soviet supercomputers. The performance of the BESM-6 was at the level of the fastest American CDC-6600 with a smaller number of transistors, but a better architecture. The joint Soyuz-Apollo flight was operated by the BESM-4 complex from the Soviet side. The information was processed by the Soviet system many times faster than the American one (the difference reached 0.5 hours).
1968 Gorokhov Arseny Anatolyevich creates a personal computer and receives a patent for it! (8 years before the PC from " Apple»)
1978 (Elbrus-1)
1984 (Elbrus-2),
The first multiprocessor computer (Elbrus), with a speed of 15 million operations per second. Elbrus supercomputers are the first to implement the basic principles of modern architectures. After Yeltsin came to power, funding for the work was stopped. Head of development V. M. Pentkovsky went to the United States and became the lead designer of the Pentium III. which uses the achievements of "Elbrus".
 
Industry and construction

During the period of 1917 - 1990, thousands and thousands of major industrial enterprises were built (restored after the war of 1941 - 1945).
1970-1990 The world's deepest drilling well (12262 m) was drilled on the Kola Peninsula.
1968 Ostankino-the highest (at the time of construction) TV tower (height 540 m). In 2013, it was the 5th tallest freestanding structure in the world.
The most developed (after the United States) system of oil and gas pipelines in the world. In 1990-the length of 305 thousand km.
The most developed (after the United States) railway network. Operational length for 1990 (general and non-general use) - 258.6 thousand km. including general use-147.5 thousand km.
The USSR ranked 2nd in the world (after China) in cement production.
1932 The world's first factory for the production of synthetic rubber on an industrial scale.
Since 1980, the USSR has confidently led the world in terms of production of mineral fertilizers.
1939 Norilsk Mining and Metallurgical Combine is the world's largest producer of nickel and palladium, one of the largest producers of platinum and copper.
Bratsk Aluminum Plant is the world's largest aluminum producer. It consumes 3/4 of the electricity generated by the Bratsk hydroelectric power station.
In the USSR, for the first time in the world, technologies of semi-automatic welding in carbon dioxide, automatic welding under a layer of flux, and electroslag welding were developed and implemented.
1934 In the USSR, technologies were developed and applied to move multi-storey buildings for tens (and even hundreds) of meters without dismantling them and evicting residents.

Mechanical engineering

1924 The world's first mainline diesel locomotive
1946 Began serial production of M-20 Pobeda cars. In 1947, this car was awarded the winning medal of the World Automobile Exhibition in Brussels.
1957 Serial production of GAZ-21 "Volga" cars began. In 1958, "Volga" won the Grand Prix at the exhibition "Expo' 58 " in Brussels.
1961 The most modern and powerful BelAZ dump truck.
Year of production start - load capacity in tons: 1961 - 27. 1968 - 80. 1977 - 120. 1983 -220. In the 80's, 50% of the world's large quarry dump trucks were Soviet.
1976 One of the world's largest walking excavators esh-100/100 (boom reach 100 m. bucket capacity 100 cubic meters).
1971 MTZ-80 tractor is the most popular tractor in the world.
MTZ-50, MTZ-80, MTZ-100 tractors are a family of wheeled tractors "Belarus", produced by the Minsk Tractor Plant (since 1950) and the Southern Machine-building Plant.
In the production of tractors, the USSR confidently led the world (in 1990, the USSR produced 495 thousand, in Japan - 156 thousand).)
1985 The world's most powerful electric locomotive VL86F-001 with a capacity of 11.4 MW. This figure was surpassed only in 2014 in Russia (electric locomotive 4ES5L. capacity-13.1 MW).
In terms of price/quality, Soviet wristwatches were the best in the world. In 1991, the watch "Flight" won the gold prize for quality in Madrid. For the period 1980-1990. The export of Soviet watches amounted to 220 million pieces.
 
Mining and primary processing of minerals

In a very short historical period of time in the USSR, a large-scale resource extraction industry was created. By 1990, the USSR was the world's leading producer of oil, natural gas, diamonds, and iron ore, and ranked 3rd in coal production.
The USSR was the world's leader in ferrous metallurgy. In 1989, the USSR produced 160 million tons of steel (in Japan-108 million tons. The United States-89 million tons).
The USSR has led the world in nonferrous metallurgy (the first in the world for the production of aluminum, platinum, Nickel: second place in the world (after South Africa) in gold production and second in the world in the production of tungsten concentrate; to 1989 - the second largest producer of refined copper and fourth largest producer of silver)

Electric power industry

1954 The world's first nuclear power plant (Obninsk).
The world's most powerful hydroelectric power plants were built on large Siberian rivers at the time of commissioning (in parentheses, the year of commissioning of the first unit and full capacity): Bratskaya (1961. 4 MW). Krasnoyarsk (1967. 6 MW). Sayano-Shushenskaya (1978, 6.4 MW). In 1990, the HPP generated 13.5% of all electricity in the USSR.
1990 The largest unified energy system (UES of the USSR) was created in the USSR, which covered 2/3 of the country's territory.
In terms of total power plant capacity and electricity production, the USSR was second only to the United States.
 
swing_voter said:
Between 1917 and the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the only thing the Soviets ever accomplished was the victory over the Germans.


Prove me wrong.
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I agree and they also lost about 30M people to the wars and Stalin's purges.
 
Aviation

1955 Tu-104 - the first Soviet jet passenger aircraft. Between 1956 and 1958, it was the only operational jet airliner in the world.
1965 The largest AN-22 (Antey) aircraft in the world at the time of its creation: carrying capacity of 100 tons. After its demonstration in Le Bourget, experts recognized the leadership of the USSR in the aircraft industry.
1968 The world's first commercial flight of a supersonic passenger aircraft Tu-144.
1982 An-124 ("Ruslan") - the largest in terms of payload (120 tons) production aircraft.
1988 AN-225 ("Mriya") - the world's largest aircraft in the history of aviation. Maximum take-off weight 640 t. Load capacity 250 t. The
1961 Mi-8 was the most popular helicopter in the world. About 17,000 cars have been manufactured, and orders are still being received. (For comparison, "Araspe" - about 1200. "Black Ha k" - about 3000).
1968 B-12 (Mi-12) is the heaviest and most lifting helicopter created by man. Take-off weight-105 tons. By weight, it exceeded 4 times the heaviest American helicopters.
1977 Mn-26 - the world's largest mass-produced transport helicopter, with a payload capacity of up to 25 tons. As of 2011, 310 cars were manufactured.

Navy

The deadweight of ships of the Soviet civil Marine Fleet in 1990 reached 29.2 million tons. This is the second indicator among large developed countries (in Japan-42.4. in the United States-23).
In the USSR, the most powerful nuclear icebreaker fleet in the world was created. The most famous icebreakers (in parentheses - year of commissioning and displacement in thousand tons): Lenin (1959.16). Arctic (1975, 23.5), Siberia (1985, 21.1), Russia (1985, 23), Soviet Union (1990, 23). The Arctic icebreaker is the first surface vessel to sail to the North Pole (1977)
.1971 The largest research vessel is the Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, length 232 m, displacement 45 thousand tons (the Titanic has 269 m and 52 thousand tons, respectively).
1966 Ekranoplan " KM "- a mock-up ship (Western special services called it the "Caspian Monster"). It is considered a sea vessel. Length 92 m. take-off weight 544 tons (not surpassed in our time), flight height on the screen 4-14 m. the maximum speed is 500 km per hour.
Hydrofoils. The first commercial vessel was built in Switzerland in 1952. In the USSR, since 1957, Raketa vessels were produced. "Meteor". "Comet", etc. Only 389 "Rockets" were built, including 32 for export.
 
Thank you so much for the laughter, it has been awhile since seeing an OP "prove me wrong" attempt end in such rapid and spectacular failure.
 
Military equipment

1961 The largest hydrogen bomb (product AN602) with a capacity of 57-58.6 megatons was detonated in the atmosphere at the test site near the Novaya Zemlya Islands.
1981 The world's largest nuclear submarine of the Akula type (displacement 48 thousand tons length -172.8 m, width 23.3 m). Since 1981. By 1989, 6 boats of this type were built.
1983 Nuclear submarine "Komsomolets" with a titanium hull. The only boat in the world that can dive to a depth of more than 1000 m.
1969 The world's fastest nuclear submarine "Anchar" (K-222) reached a submerged speed of over 80 km / h (42 knots).
1975 1983 Ballistic missile RS-20A " Satan "(R-36M). Such advanced engineering developments were introduced into this missile that it is still considered invulnerable and is in service with the Russian army. It is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the heaviest (211 tons) and most powerful in the world.
Ballistic missile R-36M2 ("Voevoda"). 200 tons

1961 The USSR created the world's first missile defense system capable of destroying real missiles with the help of radar. 4.03.1961 anti-missile B-1000 shot down a rocket R12. The Americans were unable to do this for a very long time.
1978 S-300 - the world's best anti-aircraft missile system in the 20th century. Combat work is fully automated. Capable of destroying flying targets at a distance of several kilometers to three hundred kilometers.
1986 The largest hovercraft in the world - the landing ship "Bison»
1964 MiG-25 the first production fighter, which reached a speed of 3000 km/h. If necessary, he could outrun any aircraft in the world. In 1977. Lifted a load of 2 tons. To an altitude of 37.8 km.
1975 mng-31-the best fighter of the 70s-80s. The MiG-31M was also the best in the world in its class in 2015. It is capable of destroying cruise missiles, low-flying satellites, any aircraft (including "invisible" and jammers) at all altitudes, day and night, and in the conditions of the enemy's use of radar interference. During tests in 1978, four simultaneously fired missiles destroyed four radio-controlled targets. In 1994, a MIG-31M missile destroyed a target at a distance of more than 300 km. which is still not available to other interceptors today. A group of 4 MIG-31s is capable of controlling the air space at any altitudes with a length of up to 1000 km along the front. This was confirmed in 1978 by a unique experiment in Akhtubinsk. not repeated so far in any country in the world. In total, about 30 world records were set on the aircraft of this class.
1977 Su-27-an aircraft with the best aerodynamic qualities in the world, the only aircraft that is able to perform dynamic braking, "cobra Pugachev". Dozens of world records have been set on Su aircraft, many of which have not been surpassed in our time. For example, the absolute record of the speed of climb: 3000 m. In 25.4 seconds.
1989 Su-30 - the first production aircraft in the world, which has supermaneuverability.
Developed and created in the USSR in the 1970s-1980s strategic bombers Tu-22M. Tu-95MS. Tu-160 - and in our time the basis of the Russian Air Force.
1981 Tu-160 - the largest supersonic aircraft in the history of military aviation with variable wing geometry, as well as the heaviest combat aircraft in the world.
1986 "Albatross" (A-40) - the world's largest amphibious jet aircraft. The "Albatross" has set 170 international records.
1960 Rotorcraft Ka-22. has two main rotors and two turboprop engines. In October 1961, the speed record on a rotorcraft was officially registered-356.3 km / h. which is not surpassed in our time. In November 1961, the world record for rotorcraft lifting capacity was set: a load of 16.485 tons was lifted to a height of 2557 m.
1982 Helicopter K-50 ("Black Shark») - to date, it is the best combat helicopter in the world.
1986 Tractor MAZ-7907. The only car in the world with 24 driving wheels. Power 1250 hp
T-34. KV tanks. -The best tanks of the Second World War.
T-34 (the beginning of production-1940) - the best medium tank and the most mass-produced in the world, more than 60 thousand were produced. Tank JS-2 (beginning of production-1943) - the best heavy tank: the muzzle energy of its 122 mm gun was 1.6 times higher than the muzzle energy of the best German Tiger-2 tank.
1947 Kalashnikov AK - the most common small arms in the world.
1931 Automatic grenade launcher.
1957 The world's first intercontinental ballistic missile.
1958 "Storm" - the world's first supersonic two-stage land-based missile.
1987 "Combat railway missile system "15P961" Molodets "("train number zero")- a strategic missile system of mobile railway basing. The US tried unsuccessfully to create a similar one.
 
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Social development

Free provision of housing to those in need of better housing conditions. At the end of the 80s in the USSR, residential buildings with a total area of 130 million square meters were put into operation annually. Low amount of rent and utility payments (in the amount of 3-5% of the family income). In the apartments there were no water meters (neither for hot nor for cold), gas. The price of electricity, water, and gas is insignificant, and their consumption was not limited.
Free provision of medical services, including visits to doctors in the polyclinic, tests and clinical and laboratory tests, any diagnosis, any operations, treatment in the hospital. The quality of medical care (on average) was high.
There was no drug mafia in the country. The number of drug addicts, compared to Western countries, was insignificant.
There were very few HIV-infected citizens. In 1989, the USSR had 0.4 thousand people. HIV-infected, in the United States - about 100 thousand. For comparison: in 2015, only in Russia, the total number of HIV-infected people (according to official data) approached 1 million. In fact, there are many more of them.

Extremely low fees for children in kindergartens. Free primary, secondary, vocational and higher education, postgraduate and doctoral studies. Most of the successful students of universities and technical schools were paid a scholarship. The education system in the USSR was one of the best in the world.

Free use of state libraries. The population of the USSR was the most reading in the world.

The retirement age of women is 55 years. men - 60 years old. This is one of the lowest rates among developed countries.

The world's best system of physical and sports training of the country's population. At the 9 Winter Olympic Games in which the USSR took part (since 1956), Soviet Olympic team took 1st place 7 times and second place 2 times. At 9 Summer Olympics (since 1952) - 6 times first place and 3-second. And without doping.

Free tourism. Any citizen could travel and relax in nature anywhere in the country. Beaches, lakes, rivers. the forests and parks were not private and were not fenced. Collecting mushrooms, berries, and amateur fishing is free. Prices for transport (rail, air, road) are low. For the average accrued salary in industry in 1990, it was possible to fly from Moscow to Mineralnye Vody and back 5 times in a month (for a salary in agriculture-4 times). The price of travel in urban transport has not changed for decades (travel in the Moscow metro iv 1961 iv 1990 cost 5 kopecks).

There was no unemployment in the country.

There was no nationalism in the country. In the USSR of the 1970s, it was impossible to imagine a war in the North Caucasus, in Ukraine, a war between Azerbaijanis and Armenians, and Georgians with the inhabitants of Ossetia. Abkhazia and Russia, Kyrgyz and Uzbeks. Moldova with Transnistria, etc.
 
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FlaMike13 said:
I agree and they also lost about 30M people to the wars and Stalin's purges.
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"...about 30 million people died in the wars and Stalinist purges". Nice try. This is similar to using words side by side, for example: Astronauts and Sexual perverts, War heroes and Idiots. That is, you do not call astronauts or heroes perverts or idiots, but the location of these words next to each other subconsciously unites them... Did you come up with it yourself or did you study it in propaganda courses?
 
Ringo Stalin said:
"...about 30 million people died in the wars and Stalinist purges". Nice try. This is similar to using words side by side, for example: Astronauts and Sexual perverts, War heroes and Idiots. That is, you do not call astronauts or heroes perverts or idiots, but the location of these words next to each other subconsciously unites them... Did you come up with it yourself or did you study it in propaganda courses?
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I was merely stating a fact. I have never had a propaganda course but perhaps you have.
 
Sputnik was a propaganda device.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Thank you so much for the laughter, it has been awhile since seeing an OP "prove me wrong" attempt end in such rapid and spectacular failure.
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