The Nightmare Scenario

[AlphaOmega]

That pick will have to recuse herself from any decisions regarding the election. Kavanaugh might have to as well based on his threats of revenge during his hearings.

hahajjajahahhaha ^ Jesus Christ

 

[George50]

Hardly. Democrats simply don't accept elections which they don't win, and haven't for quite some time. Even now they are already putting excuses in place, seems they don't have much confidence winning in November as they publicly put on.



Meh. Trump says a lot of shit, most of it trolling. When he's trolling and you take him more seriously than you should isn't my hang up. It's yours.

You people that defend Trump by saying that you can’t believe a word he says are a real hoot!


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[Cardinal]

I don't see Trump attempting a coup as much as a close election being contested. And that's practically what Dems claim is going to happen.

Maybe I'm stupid, but isn't that what the article is saying will happen?

 

[eohrnberger]

You people that defend Trump by saying that you can’t believe a word he says are a real hoot!


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Except that's not what I posted. It's what you wanted to read into what I posted.

 

[Old Trapper]

He tried to hide some of the in-person voting with that figure. Only 24% of that 40% was mail-in.

And you got the real numbers where?

Still, the question is, and remains unanswered, can any of you prove the claims you make?

 

[Old Trapper]

I can differentiate just fine, thank you. Democrats are talking the same sort of smack, putting in ready made excuses should they lose.

Seems to me trump has been doing that for a year, or better. In fact, he also did that in 2015, and 2016.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

I can differentiate just fine, thank you.

hasn't happened yet.

Democrats are talking the same sort of smack, putting in ready made excuses should they lose.

keep ignoring the point, we're discussing his ACTIONS .

 

[ClaraD]

There is no way to know if who voted is the voter - plus they eliminate assuring secret voting. There is no way to know who filled out and signed a mail-in ballot. It's not like partisan election divisions have 100,000 handwriting experts. There is no way to know if ballots are just thrown away too - or anything that can be done about it if they are. The votes are still no counted.

election voided due to mail in ballots - Google Search

it is called signature matching and it works.

 

[ClaraD]

Of course it’s all nonsense. There are not 80 million unrequested ballots being mailed out. Trump just made up that number. Of the approximately half that number actually being mailed out unsolicited, Trump is counting the states that have always done it that way.

According to Trump absentee ballots (which are verified the same way as mail-in ballots) require a voter to go through “a very strict process. The equivalent of going to a voting machine, or maybe even sometimes better.” So using his own words, everything is fine.


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in Colorado you do not have to request your ballot it is automatically sent to you...and you mail it back or drop it off at a poll location. They have no issues with either counting those ballots or with fraud...and it has been this way for a long time.

 

[Oborosen]

Mail in ballots are going to be screwed up because the fascists will ensure that counterfeit ballots will mailed in by the millions.

Its not like the Russians for instance haven't stolen the voter rolls in most states. Its not like they can't duplicate the ballots. And Cheatin' Donnie has already asked them to do it. Just like he asked them to hack Hillary.

But of course Trump nor the Russians would stoop to do such a dastardly, yet relatively simple thing. election day confusion. Millions of rejected fake ballots and trump going apeshit that is all an evil marxist socialist leftist loonie plot to steal america from real americans.

Its coming and guys like these pond scum are going to be gunnin' for joy.

Militant neo-nazi group surfaces in Colorado

Your gun club looks to be a pretty strange group.

 

[Oborosen]

it is called signature matching and it works.

You mean the same function that the democrats are working to loosen?

Yeah, that sounds like a grand idea.

 

[Oborosen]

40% of ballots cast in the 2016 election were by early / absentee / by mail. In several swing states, including Florida, the number was over half (Florida was over 60%). Elections are basically already determined by mail ballots and have been increasingly so for quite some time.

Republicans are against free, fair and open elections because they can't win without voter suppression.

So the democrats working to bog down the system as much as they can, despite the mounting warning signs.. is free, fair and open?

 

[DarkWizard12]

How does mailing out ballots translate into fraud?

it opens up opportunity for fraud, and even if you forget about fraud, it adds legitimacy issues. What if someone fills out the wrong form, what if names are mistyped, etc. etc.

 

[Juks]

Sometimes when nightmares becomes reality we have a tendense to close our eyes in denial.


Please, Donald Trump stops at nothing to rigg the election, he doesn’t want people to vote, he tries to disassemble the post services by appointing a new director , DeJoy, that actively works to try and ensure that the postal service is not functional in November. He spreads fake news, sometimes from Russian troll factories . He casts doubt on scientific facts and freedom of speech. Regarding the black life matters movement: For the first time in American history, a president declared that he would use the 213-year-old Insurrection Act against the will of local governments, the violence is Trump's fault, a direct result of all his words regarding the protests. The protests where peaceful before his aggitation.. He does not want the tension to stop. He wants it to increase. It is in his favor . He urged the US military to "dominate" protesters and called them the ragged term "thugs”. Latest he is talking about the withdrawal of federal money from democrat governed cities

The republic party does their best to support him in disamble the democracy b, Latest not letting a democrat president elect a judge 8 month before election (due to democratical issues), but hasten to let Trump appoint one 1,5 month before the very next election.

”The two greatest obstacles to democracy in the United States are, first, the widespread delusion among the poor that we have a democracy, and second, the chronic terror among the rich, we might get it. ”
/ Theodore Edward Dowling

This political forum for example discusses to 90% the persons Donald or Biden or the persons surrounding them. Politics, ideology, visions for the future shines with its absence. Off course the discussions are angry and no one listen to anyone else. Every read insert is preceded by the position on "for or against". The disassembly of the little democracy and free will the US citizens has, has just started. As someone said : Democracy has to be recapture by each generation. You are losing yours.
At the end of the day it is not the politicians selected who is the problem, it is the problem that is the problem, we all get the leaders we deserve.

 

[Decypher]

Hardly. Democrats simply don't accept elections which they don't win, and haven't for quite some time. Even now they are already putting excuses in place, seems they don't have much confidence winning in November as they publicly put on.



Meh. Trump says a lot of shit, most of it trolling. When he's trolling and you take him more seriously than you should isn't my hang up. It's yours.

Just so I’ve got this right, when the Democrats question elections they’re degrading the election process but when Trump does it, he’s just trolling? Sounds like rank hypocrisy to me but I’m happy to be corrected.

 

[Taylor]

And you got the real numbers where?

Still, the question is, and remains unanswered, can any of you prove the claims you make?

From the U.S. Election Assistance Commission

 

[Moderate Right]

This is the stupidest article I've read in a while. I long-winded fantastical set of election chaos scenarios. The media keeps trying to drum up a constitutional crisis over the presidential election where Biden ultimately wins but Trump won't concede. Huh?

The Nightmare Scenario That Keeps Election Lawyers Up At Night -- And Could Hand Trump A Second Term

A "red mirage" on election night and a post-election "blue shift" could lead to an unprecedented constitutional crisis just as the Supreme Court is in turmoil.

www.yahoo.com

Americans will almost certainly go to bed on Nov. 3 without knowing who won the presidential election. Since millions of people will vote by mail, constraints on time and resources will slow ballot counting into potentially a weeks-long process. Voting patterns suggest it’s likely that President Donald Trump could end Election Day in the lead in certain key states, only to be overtaken by Democratic opponent Joe Biden when more votes are tallied.

This could create a nightmare scenario during the three months stretching from Election Day to the Jan. 20 inauguration: a battle on the state and congressional level over who is the legitimate winner. This could include Congress reconvening on Jan. 6, presided over by Vice President Mike Pence, with no consensus over its potential role in choosing the next president.

This is arguably the most likely of the contested-election narratives, and now the Supreme Court — which would likely have to rule on the legal arcana at issue in this epic battle — has been thrown into its own nightmare scenario with the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

It was Hillary who told Biden not to concede. Then they go out and claim that if Trump loses, he won't leave office.

 

[Old Trapper]

From the U.S. Election Assistance Commission

Link?

 

[Ikari]

Mail in ballots are going to be screwed up because the fascists will ensure that counterfeit ballots will mailed in by the millions.

Its not like the Russians for instance haven't stolen the voter rolls in most states. Its not like they can't duplicate the ballots. And Cheatin' Donnie has already asked them to do it. Just like he asked them to hack Hillary.

But of course Trump nor the Russians would stoop to do such a dastardly, yet relatively simple thing. election day confusion. Millions of rejected fake ballots and trump going apeshit that is all an evil marxist socialist leftist loonie plot to steal america from real americans.

Its coming and guys like these pond scum are going to be gunnin' for joy.

Militant neo-nazi group surfaces in Colorado

Colorado Nazis....I hate Colorado Nazis.

It seems that under Trump Nazis and White Supremacists are making quite the resurgence.

 

[Ikari]

40% of ballots cast in the 2016 election were by early / absentee / by mail. In several swing states, including Florida, the number was over half (Florida was over 60%). Elections are basically already determined by mail ballots and have been increasingly so for quite some time.

Republicans are against free, fair and open elections because they can't win without voter suppression.

Pretty much this. Colorado has an all mail-in system and it works great. But it is clear that the GOP and Trump are trying to throw doubt on the election before it happens and try to suppress the vote.

 

[eohrnberger]

hasn't happened yet.

keep ignoring the point, we're discussing his ACTIONS .

Which ACTIONS might those be?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Which ACTIONS might those be?

Here is one:

President Trump said Thursday that he does not want to fund the U.S. Postal Service because Democrats are seeking to expand mail-in voting during the coronavirus pandemic, making explicit the reason he has declined to approve $25 billion in emergency funding for the cash-strapped agency.

 

[eohrnberger]

Just so I’ve got this right, when the Democrats question elections they’re degrading the election process but when Trump does it, he’s just trolling? Sounds like rank hypocrisy to me but I’m happy to be corrected.

Here is one:

President Trump said Thursday that he does not want to fund the U.S. Postal Service because Democrats are seeking to expand mail-in voting during the coronavirus pandemic, making explicit the reason he has declined to approve $25 billion in emergency funding for the cash-strapped agency.

LOL. The USPS is fully funded until Oct 2021. they didn't need the money.

Under siege from Trump, U.S. Postal Service finds surprising financial upside in pandemic

If package volumes persist at 15 to 20 percent above normal levels in the coming months and the Postal Service does not do any more borrowing, it will delay its solvency crisis until October 2021. But if package volumes return to pre-pandemic levels, the agency is set to run out of cash by March. Accessing the $10 billion loan from Treasury would put off insolvency even further.

At least not right now.

That's almost as bad as the hoax that Trump was ordering the USPS to remove mailboxes, when it was little more than routine replacement of mailboxes and relocation of under utilized mailboxes to new locations where they might be more used.
:roll:

Really, there's a second 1/2 to these sensationalist stories the political propaganda media keep trumpeting. Best to learn to wait for and look for them.

 

[Taylor]

Link?

If you care enough about it, do a quick google search I've provided plenty of info for that. I'm not here to do research for others.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

I'll raise you ballot harvesting and extending the date to count votes 2 WEEKS beyond Nov. 3rd.
It's going to be rife with fraud and lawsuits.
Which is why Republicans should vote on Trump's SCOTUS pick asap.

Let me ask you this, being that the Democrats have a bigger and broader base of voters than the Republicans do, and being that they have won the majority of votes in every presidential election but one in the last 30 years, and being that Trump managed to win with a lower percentage of the vote than what Romney lost with just 4 years earlier, why is it that you think the Democrats would be the ones committing election fraud? If the Democrats simply get their votes counted this November, they will most likely win. When you have more voters, you don't have near the incentive to cheat than the side with less voters.