Transgender. If you refuse to get this simple word right, then how can you be trusted to get a far more complex matter correct?
Stopped reading right there.
I am not going to entertain your dehumanization of trans people. You clearly place more importance on scoring cheap points in a debate than you care about whether they are discriminated against or even survive another day.
There is no amount of self-perceived "logic" that can compensate for that gross lack of humanity.
Phys your response above is illogical. Your attempt to engage me and others in how to use the word transgender and transgendered is absurd.
We are all aware the word "transgender" is an adjective denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.
The fact you and others have now taken it upon yourselves subjectively to try lecture that the term "transgendered" is unacceptable doesn't make it unacceptable, the context of how its used determines whether its derogatory not your feelings.
When used to try differentiate between people who call themselves transgender but have not transitioned, transgendered can be used to differentiate those who made the physical transition, and it becomes necessary to do so in the specific of the state of actual phsyiology when examining competing athletes. A person who calls themselves transgender, but has not changed sexes yet, raises issues for testing different than those already changed in gender.
Next you came on this forum to claim you defend all transgender people and their right to be transgender. You created that mantle, climbed up and sat on it, and in every response have posed yourself as defending all transgenders from transphobia. You then accuse anyone who has tried to express concerns arising in determining sports competition as all being transphobic simply for posing such concerns. You also went so far as posing you are defending transgendered children from death because of my comments, and you want to now lecture me on scoring cheap debate points? Lol. You are past absurd. You engage in the very tactic you then accuse me of others in, in the very next sentence. Its past laughable and you show with the above response you can't debate the topic but pose as defending transgender people. No one on this thread has stated anything to suggest we want transgender people discriminated against, hurt, injured, humiliated. On the other hand we have tried to explain to you that transgender (people not yet transitioned) and transgendered (people who have transitioned" and people who are not transgender, all have their lives equally as endangered through doping and other unfair exercises designed to enhance performance.
You refuse to acknowledge transgenders as being part of a larger community of athletes. You in fact segregate them, and refuse to acknowledge they suffer the same dangers from doping as non transgenders and ironically discriminate against them and in fact advocate a position that endangers their lives and yet here you are accusing me of not caring about transgenders or transgender children. Lol.
One last thing. I appreciate the world of you and others who feel you have a monopoly on what words I or others may use and that you can unilaterally dictate what words I may use. In regards to the term "transgendered" I am well aware certain people like you argue adding
-ed to the end of transgender is unacceptable because you feel people are not called heterosexualed or gayed.
However it may be necessary to have to use it now not as a derogatory word, but to specifically differentiate between people who have not transitioned yet and those who have who are both transgender because it raises different testing issues and concerns depending on which of the two categories it is or for that matter the category of commencing but not having completed the transition.
You are so caught up on your moral throne and assuming you know what is politically correct you don't stop in your need to gain morality points through patronizing responses to stop and think of what it is being discussed or the context of what is being discussed. You block your ears and try talk over me and others who you disagree with, not addressing the issues we have raised but trying to deflect in name calling and accusing us of an agenda we have never discussed nor care to discuss.
The sexual choices an adult makes is not the issue on this thread. It never was no matter how many times you try deflect and change it to that topic.