I am neither Dem nor Rep AND I think Hilary Clinton is staggeringly overrated...but this whole Benghazi thing is really starting to smell of Rep desperation.
Is this really the largest injustice that America presently faces?
I guess it just is the largest one the Reps do not have blood on their hands from.
The families of the 4 men asked for an investigation. Would it be wise for the GOP not to investigate and tell them "well, we don't want to look desperate, so you're SOL"?
I'm fine with them investigating.
And let's face it - how many votes do you think it would get them that they wouldn't already get anyway? They aren't that stupid. This isn't to gain votes.
The Republicans weren't the only ones who were anxious to go to Iraq. 29 Democrats in the Senate and 40% of the Democrats in the House voted yes.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063253397 said:Didn't you hear? Bush lied and the liberals swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
The same Dems that despise him and think he stole the election.
Then they completely believed him on an issue as important as invading another country.
And I thought Romney was the flip-flopper.
And the ironic thing is that we have records of their impassioned speeches on the Senate floor, urging Bush to invade Iraq! Which might be one reason why we don't hear much at all these days about it - especially from those impassioned speakers, who saw the same intel that Bush did, and voted accordingly! It hasn't stopped them from looking like hypocrites, though, which is strange to see from such learned people who insist they know what's best for everyone.
Greetings, Mo. :2wave:
The Republicans weren't the only ones who were anxious to go to Iraq. 29 Democrats in the Senate and 40% of the Democrats in the House voted yes.
I fault both parties for wanting to go to Iraq.
But the GOP were the one's that started it and now they are making a massive stink about 4 American's that died needlessly when they should also be examining how the massive mistake that was Iraq happened and to hold those who perpetrated it responsible.
But they won't.
Sorry, but in my opinion, that is hypocrisy.
And what they are doing with Benghazi is little more then political opportunism, IMO.
You are of course free to disagree..but there is no changing my mind on this.
There are problems in America that require FAR more study and action then what happened in Benghazi 1 1/2+ years ago.
Sure, examine what happened...but get on with the other problems...they require more urgent attention.
What happened in Benghazi cannot be changed, but America's economy can.
Because they were given false intelligence.
Yeah, what difference does it make? That's the spirit. It can't be changed, so let's look the other way.
I wonder how much the oil and defense industry made off the death and dismemberment of our brave boys (and women) in Iraq and Afghanistan, too.I wonder how much dems raised off the death and dismemberment of our brave boys in Iraq and Afghanistan?
The Republicans weren't the only ones who were anxious to go to Iraq. 29 Democrats in the Senate and 40% of the Democrats in the House voted yes.
Yeah, what difference does it make?
I have zero problem with them investigating.
My problem is with the incredible amount of attention the GOP seems to be putting on to it.
The economy is stalled, the budget is a mess, Obama is playing chicken with Russia over the Ukraine and THIS is the GOP's big issue with democrats?
I wish the GOP had spent this much energy investigating Bush for the ridiculous war in Iraq and the 4,000+ brave American soldiers it cost. Or the many other brave soldiers that have died in Afghanistan for nothing (strategically).
IMO, this is little more then GOP desperation. They lost on Obamacare, they seem as clueless on the economy as the Dems and they realize that since the Fed basically controls the economy AND that the Fed is in the WH's back pocket; that the Fed just has to ramp up QE before the mid-terms to artificially stimulate the economy and give the Dem's the edge.
In other words, the Reps know that the Dems are in the driver's seat and this is all the Reps (IMO) have.
I sincerely do not believe the GOP leaders care that much about those that died at Benghazi...because they sure did not seem to care this much about thousands of Americans dying in Iraq/Afghanistan. They just smell some political blood...and they are hungry.
Additionally, I also feel that freaking out about those 4 that died in Benghazi while the Rep leaders allowed thousands of Americans to die overseas is hypocrisy.
And the ironic thing is that we have records of their impassioned speeches on the Senate floor, urging Bush to invade Iraq! Which might be one reason why we don't hear much at all these days about it - especially from those impassioned speakers, who saw the same intel that Bush did, and voted accordingly! It hasn't stopped them from looking like hypocrites, though, which is strange to see from such learned people who insist they know what's best for everyone.
Greetings, Mo. :2wave:
Do you even read posts before you comment on them?
Apparently not.
I said 'sure, examine what happened'.
Next time read it before you comment on it...just a suggestion.
Good day.
I dunno. I thought the controversy over Obama's birth certificate was funnier.
Hey, GOP. Want to really nail Obama? You can start by pushing the truth. Obama is spying on Americans at home, and executing them without due process abroad. Bring that up, and I will gladly join you in calling for his impeachment. No more silliness, please. Attack Obama where he is really vulnerable and guilty.
Tres you know DEMs had to vote for war, such as Clinton, so the GOP wouldn't throw the Patriot card at them, quite the thing with the GOP to do since Reagan. Especially when that solid evidence on WMDs blew up in their face, starting the current finger-pointing .
I wonder how much the oil and defense industry made off the death and dismemberment of our brave boys (and women) in Iraq and Afghanistan, too.
Oh, no. Don't pull that crap. You down played Benghazi, just like Obama. Hey, let's move on. You went on about Iraq, as if they are the same thing. If your throw away line about examing what happened meant anything, you wouldn't be comparing it to Iraq and saying get on with it.
It's not just that it was a horrible failure, this administration has blocked all attempts to figure out what happened, and in particular what the Hell Obama did or didn't do about it. That is a huge red flag that the left is trying to push aside.
and a different perspective (from the next President of the United States of America):Well said by Mr. Cotton...
Elizabeth Warren Slams Chair of the GOP's New Benghazi Committee | Mother JonesAs a Senator, I take oversight seriously because it is powerfully important. But Trey Gowdy gives oversight a bad name. The House GOP is on a waste-of-time-and-resources witch hunt and fundraising sideshow, shamefully grasping for any straw to make President Obama, former Secretary Clinton, or Secretary Kerry look bad. This stunt does a disservice to those who serve our country abroad, and it distracts us from issues we should be taking up on behalf of the American people.
With millions of people still out of work and millions more working full time yet still living below the poverty line, with students drowning in debt, with roads and bridges crumbling, is this really what the House Republicans are choosing to spend their time on? Even for guys who have so few solutions to offer that they have voted 54 times to repeal Obamacare, this is a new low.
Right...On one side we have President who invaded a nation using false intelligence provided by the CIA causing the deaths of 4000+ Americans ( more than died in 911) and on the other we have 4 Americans who died in a tiny consulate in Africa because the CIA failed to protect them from a terrorist plot. What is the common denominator and which is more of tragedy?
and a different perspective (from the next President of the United States of America):
Elizabeth Warren Slams Chair of the GOP's New Benghazi Committee | Mother Jones
LOL! That's the best. The democrats got the false intelligence, while they secretly saved the real stuff for the republicans. Poor democrats, being lead around by the republicans. Is there anything the left will not swallow from their leaders?
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