The most ironic presidencies in history: trump is #1

[Craig234]

Presidents are not normally ironic, except in some details sometimes. They have their good and bad, their strong and weak, but irony isn't that common.

For example, JFK promised progress and vigor, and that's pretty much what he did. His most famous book, "Profiles in Courage" had his critics saying 'we need less profile, more courage', but it wasn't to the point of being ironic really.

Pick a president - FDR's name for his policies was 'the New Deal', and that is a fair description; it wasn't ironic. Obama's was 'hope and change', and while many felt those were disappointingly small, the words weren't ironic.

But trump is the most ironic in history. His core message was (the stolen) "Make America Great Again" - when he did the opposite, and the thing to do to ACTUALLY make America great again, was to keep him out of office.

As his time in office ends, the name for his efforts to overturn the election is "Stop the Steal" - completely ironic since stopping the steal means stopping his attempt to steal the election. The guy is walking irony. The guy portrayed himself as a top businessman, when he was losing more money than anyone else in the US.

The previous holder of the title, now a distant second, was Nixon, with his "Law and Order" theme for his mob-funded, criminal administration. A candidate for third would be Reagan, between his 'never negotiate with terrorists' as he did Iran-Contra, his calling the Contra terrorists 'freedom fighters' and 'the moral equivalent of our founding fathers', and his saying he was so anti-debt as he put the country on the road to massive debt ever since.

That's really it for presidents even close I can think of. Woodrow Wilson might get a nod for his running on a promise to keep the US out of the 'Great War'.

If we expanded it internationally, we could find more examples, such as Neville Chamberlein famous for "Peace in our time", or Hitler's 'Thousand year Reich'.

 

[Jay59]

The irony is that you don't recognize a good President when you see one.

 

[calamity]

The irony is that you don't recognize a good President when you see one.

Obama?

 

[calamity]

Presidents are not normally ironic, except in some details sometimes. They have their good and bad, their strong and weak, but irony isn't that common.

For example, JFK promised progress and vigor, and that's pretty much what he did. His most famous book, "Profiles in Courage" had his critics saying 'we need less profile, more courage', but it wasn't to the point of being ironic really.

Pick a president - FDR's name for his policies was 'the New Deal', and that is a fair description; it wasn't ironic. Obama's was 'hope and change', and while many felt those were disappointingly small, the words weren't ironic.

But trump is the most ironic in history. His core message was (the stolen) "Make America Great Again" - when he did the opposite, and the thing to do to ACTUALLY make America great again, was to keep him out of office.

As his time in office ends, the name for his efforts to overturn the election is "Stop the Steal" - completely ironic since stopping the steal means stopping his attempt to steal the election. The guy is walking irony. The guy portrayed himself as a top businessman, when he was losing more money than anyone else in the US.

The previous holder of the title, now a distant second, was Nixon, with his "Law and Order" theme for his mob-funded, criminal administration. A candidate for third would be Reagan, between his 'never negotiate with terrorists' as he did Iran-Contra, his calling the Contra terrorists 'freedom fighters' and 'the moral equivalent of our founding fathers', and his saying he was so anti-debt as he put the country on the road to massive debt ever since.

That's really it for presidents even close I can think of. Woodrow Wilson might get a nod for his running on a promise to keep the US out of the 'Great War'.

If we expanded it internationally, we could find more examples, such as Neville Chamberlein famous for "Peace in our time", or Hitler's 'Thousand year Reich'.

The real irony is his supporters thinking they are patriotic Americans when in reality they are Nazis.

 

[Jay59]

Obama?

I wish. I voted for the guy, but he was a major disappointment.

They best thing I can say is that he was probably not as bad as Hillary would have been, which is a really now bar. Dreadful foreign policy, ham handed economic policy, the disaster which is ACA, and totally tone deaf.

In contrast, I did not expect much of Trump but was pleasantly surprised.

 

[US&THEM]

I wish. I voted for the guy, but he was a major disappointment.

They best thing I can say is that he was probably not as bad as Hillary would have been, which is a really now bar. Dreadful foreign policy, ham handed economic policy, the disaster which is ACA, and totally tone deaf.

In contrast, I did not expect much of Trump but was pleasantly surprised.

Remember this big get by The Trumpster?

Foxconn tells Wisconsin it never promised to build an LCD factory

Wisconsin stands by its rejection of Foxconn’s subsidies, but both sides express openness to amending the contract.

www.theverge.com

 

[Craig234]

The irony keeps piling up. Really, his candidacy itself is hugely ironic - New York elitist scumbag liar asks for support from the deep south right-wing, the type of people in the Picante sauce commercial who say "New York City" in disgust when told a sauce is from there. And they are his cultists.

 

[joluoto]

I think there is irony to all politicians. You don't make it in politics without it. You have to be able to be in on the joke that the whole politcal system is.

 

[Craig234]

I think there is irony to all politicians. You don't make it in politics without it. You have to be able to be in on the joke that the whole politcal system is.

That's sort of like saying "Charles Manson? Everyone has issues." What's Bernie's irony?

 

[Juks]

That's sort of like saying "Charles Manson? Everyone has issues." What's Bernie's irony?

I would say: He advocates for non-intellectuals with intellectual arguments

 

[joluoto]

That's sort of like saying "Charles Manson? Everyone has issues." What's Bernie's irony?

He calls himself a Socialist. Also runs as an "outsider" despite having been in the Senate since 2007 and in the House since 1991. He can only be considered an Outsider in a very ironic way.

 

[Craig234]

He calls himself a Socialist. Also runs as an "outsider" despite having been in the Senate since 2007 and in the House since 1991. He can only be considered an Outsider in a very ironic way.

No, a Democratic Socialist. And he doesn't claim to be an outsider from the Senate, but from the big money interests that own so many Senators, and he's right. No irony.

 

[Craig234]

I would say: He advocates for non-intellectuals with intellectual arguments

Interesting take, but his arguments seem very simple mostly. And man, can he repeat them. Bernie, what time is it? We need universal healthcare and free tuition.