The Real McCoy said:
Many assume we live in a civilized society but I'm willing to bet people in the 1600s claimed they did too.
I guess that's good enough reason to keep the same methods we employ now. If we are to progress as a race, we have to learn that its
wrong. Society is brutalized by the use of the death penalty, and this
increase the chance of violent crimes.
Originally posted by cnredd
Pacifism is a wonderful thing...But it can get you killed. - George Carlin
Sometimes, yes. But in the majority of the cases, no. Pacifism is no more liely to get you killed than warmongering is. It is true that some people died defending pacifism, but they knew the risks and they still chose that way.
Buddha was a pacifist. The first Buddhists were killed, but if I'm not mistaken, didn't Buddha's message still get through? I believe the early Christians were fed to lions, but I think Jesus' message still got through. I also think that the first Muslims were persecuted, but I also think that Muhammed's messasge shines on. Not everyone got killed, there are always some of the just who survive to see that pacifism is propogated.
Originally posted by SKILMATIC
This has nothign to do with the OT or the Bible for that matter. It has to do with "civility." The Chinese who arent even christian use the very same preinciple so there is no way you can pull that "god said it ordeal." The thing is cultures use the very same punishment who arent even christian or protestant or catholic. Its a way of keeping and maintaining civility.
I'm not pulling it. If you notice, alot of death penalty advocates pull it. Anyways, the death penalty just extends the chain of violence, all murder whethercommitted by the state or a single person is murder. Plain as day.
"Why do we have to on someone in order to prove thatkillings wrong?" Shouldnt the crime merit a causable punishment? You cant punish thieves the same as you punish murder.
Dude, the death penalty is not eye for an eye, its eye for a tooth. Last timeI checked we don't torture the torturer, or rape a rapist.:2razz: