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The mental gymnastics of Trump supporters

independentusa said:
... but I also do not approve of his lies and that is what Trumpsters do when they say that anyone who complains about Trump's lies is that is about hate.
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We are left with no other reasoning because the dems and libs let the lies of the left slide every single day. But you make a huge deal of it when Trump lies. What else are we supposed to think but that you hate him, when you don't mention the lies of the others? Hypocrisy is what it is.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Non-Trump supporters see him for what he is--what Mitt Romney described as a phony con man.

Trump is constantly caught making all kinds of lies. So, how do Trump supporters justify supporting a pathological liar? In this video, you see how. It's through desperate reality bending rationalizations. Lies aren't lies if you can reinterpret them to be ambiguous enough such that they are somewhat true.

I don't think there is any way to get through to people like this.



Trump supporters know he's a sleazy ignorant con man. But it's better to have a Republican con man than any flavor of liberal.
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Pick your poison.

The alternative was a piece of **** choice too.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You have failed to even begin to understand Trump Hate....it runs so much deeper than that.
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Hawkeye, does your post mean that you do not hate people lying? Do not hate uncaring people? Do not hate bullies? Do not hate incompetence? Do not hate people that make uninformed decisions? Do not hate hate?

This is not about a deep hatred of Trump but about a deep hatred for all the hateful things he does.

If you do not hate these things yourself then it means you condone them and if you do, then you too will be hated the same way.
 
Best president ever and the left knows it. That is what has triggered them from day one.


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augustus said:
We are left with no other reasoning because the dems and libs let the lies of the left slide every single day. But you make a huge deal of it when Trump lies. What else are we supposed to think but that you hate him, when you don't mention the lies of the others? Hypocrisy is what it is.
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so you lie because the Libs make you do it
 
slick said:
The way you parrot CNN talking points I suspect Trump's inauguration crowd analysis was an impeachable offense. Just today it was
revealed 300,000 new jobs were created in the last month some lefty will likely go into pretzel like contortions claiming the Russians
had a hand in that rendering it an impeachable offense rather than a record performance
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Good jobs report. Sorry to disappoint you by agreeing.
 
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augustus said:
We are left with no other reasoning because the dems and libs let the lies of the left slide every single day. But you make a huge deal of it when Trump lies. What else are we supposed to think but that you hate him, when you don't mention the lies of the others? Hypocrisy is what it is.
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Each and every lie on both sides have to be evaluated. Nonetheless, just saying the other side lies is not enough. You need to prove the lies.

Here are two websites that give the facts about Trump lies and how many he has given. Why don't you come up with site that lists all Democratic lies as well and we can then compare who is the biggest liar.

As far as hypocrisy is concerned, there is always hypocrisy among people because humans are not perfect and people by nature are egotistic and will use hypocrisy to get what they want, just like you are doing. Nonetheless, there has to be a weight system where lies can be measured one against the other and I believe that Trump's lies far, far, far, far outweigh any lies by the Democrats. In fact, I dare you to prove the opposite.

Either way, lies are not supported by me and should not be supported by anyone. Nonetheless, just like with the election and the 2 candidates that were flawed, we do need to chose which one is better and which one is worse and my contention is that Trump is way worse than anyone else in the entire world. I believe that someone already proven to be a liar, such as Nixon, is better than Trump. That is how bad Trump is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/30/year-unprecedented-deception-trump-averaged-false-claims-day/?u

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
 
Eriech said:
Best president ever and the left knows it. That is what has triggered them from day one.


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my god man you have got to be kidding

Trump is an absolute disaster as a president. he is an embarrassment to our entire country
 
marke said:
Try to focus on God's definition of "ungodly," not someone like Bill Clinton's definition.
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You mean the Bill Clinton still married to the same woman? Trump trades in his wives when they get old. He's on his third. And how many porn stars does he have to pay off?

Stop pretending you have any moral principles. You just pretend to have moral principles when it's politically convenient.

Conservatives will NEVER recover from Trump. They have exposed themselves as frauds when it comes to these "moral" issues by supporting someone as immoral as Trump.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You have failed to even begin to understand Trump Hate....it runs so much deeper than that.
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It's not hate.

It's just extreme dislike and disgust at the things he represents and supports. For example when he publicly defended the KKK and Neo Nazis saying some are "very fine people".

I realize that the racists will deny and defend that action, but that doesn't change the fact that it happened, or that this kind of behavior is reviled by many people. Honestly, I don't understand why so many on the right have such a difficult time understanding such an obvious thing.
 
rickc said:
my god man you have got to be kidding

Trump is an absolute disaster as a president. he is an embarrassment to our entire country
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I am embarrass for those who voted for Obama twice OR voted for Hillary.

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SonOfDaedalus said:
You mean the Bill Clinton still married to the same woman? Trump trades in his wives when they get old. He's on his third. And how many porn stars does he have to pay off?

Stop pretending you have any moral principles. You just pretend to have moral principles when it's politically convenient.

Conservatives will NEVER recover from Trump. They have exposed themselves as frauds when it comes to these "moral" issues by supporting someone as immoral as Trump.
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Leftists honor the practice of married men having innumerable adulterous partners during their perverted lifetimes as long as they do not get a divorce and remarry?
 
JustHanging said:
It's not hate.

It's just extreme dislike and disgust at the things he represents and supports. For example when he publicly defended the KKK and Neo Nazis saying some are "very fine people".

I realize that the racists will deny and defend that action, but that doesn't change the fact that it happened, or that this kind of behavior is reviled by many people. Honestly, I don't understand why so many on the right have such a difficult time understanding such an obvious thing.
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It is all about who gets to decide who is a racist and who is not, decide what the definition is......is it me or is it my minders?

I am going to take my last breath as a FreeMan......It is going to be me.....I Insist.
 
1) Trump was not Clinton. I personally was tired of the political machine she/they had become and I knew her election would have given uncontrollable and detrimental power to the administrative branch. I knew everyone would fight Trump and could actually prevent him from doing anything.
2) I am an independent who likes a conservative Supreme court.
3) The fact that he demolished most, if not all of Obama executive orders is icing on the cake.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Non-Trump supporters see him for what he is--what Mitt Romney described as a phony con man.

Trump is constantly caught making all kinds of lies. So, how do Trump supporters justify supporting a pathological liar? In this video, you see how. It's through desperate reality bending rationalizations. Lies aren't lies if you can reinterpret them to be ambiguous enough such that they are somewhat true.

I don't think there is any way to get through to people like this.



Trump supporters know he's a sleazy ignorant con man. But it's better to have a Republican con man than any flavor of liberal.
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Disagree, his most faithful followers do not see him as you described. I disagree with their POV but for a second walk in their shoes, it helps with a broader POV of your own.
 
Luckyone said:
Each and every lie on both sides have to be evaluated. Nonetheless, just saying the other side lies is not enough. You need to prove the lies.

Here are two websites that give the facts about Trump lies and how many he has given. Why don't you come up with site that lists all Democratic lies as well and we can then compare who is the biggest liar.

As far as hypocrisy is concerned, there is always hypocrisy among people because humans are not perfect and people by nature are egotistic and will use hypocrisy to get what they want, just like you are doing. Nonetheless, there has to be a weight system where lies can be measured one against the other and I believe that Trump's lies far, far, far, far outweigh any lies by the Democrats. In fact, I dare you to prove the opposite.

Either way, lies are not supported by me and should not be supported by anyone. Nonetheless, just like with the election and the 2 candidates that were flawed, we do need to chose which one is better and which one is worse and my contention is that Trump is way worse than anyone else in the entire world. I believe that someone already proven to be a liar, such as Nixon, is better than Trump. That is how bad Trump is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/30/year-unprecedented-deception-trump-averaged-false-claims-day/?u

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
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Your message has been heard. I don't agree about Trump being the worst. Hillary Clnton and her husband are. Regarding your links I don't give any credit to your sources. Both have been proven unreliable, like CNN.
 
marke said:
To each his own. I oppose ungodliness and atheism, among other things, which forces me to vote against the God rejecters in politics.
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And yet you STILL support tRump?
 
augustus said:
Your message has been heard. I don't agree about Trump being the worst. Hillary Clnton and her husband are. Regarding your links I don't give any credit to your sources. Both have been proven unreliable, like CNN.
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you don't approve of the sources? that is hilarious given that Trump's lies are clearly evident to ALL who have eyes and ears. There are more than 100 sources that say exactly the same thing and many of those have no biases at all. Trump is the biggest liar ever as a President. In fact, I have never seen or heard of anyone in my entire life that lies more than he has done in his entire life. If you have to throw media biases to defend Trump, you really are scratching at the bottom trying to defend him.

These "biased" media have "compiled" all the lies he had said and if you can prove any of those lies being truths I will shut up.
 
I never said he's not a liar. He is. He's a cheater, too. I do not care about any of these things. I care about his agenda. The economy. The border. Employment. Trade. North Korea. Things that actually matter. Have a great Sunday.
 
augustus said:
I never said he's not a liar. He is. He's a cheater, too. I do not care about any of these things. I care about his agenda. The economy. The border. Employment. Trade. North Korea. Things that actually matter. Have a great Sunday.
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So how do you believe him? Why do you believe him, if you pretty much know he's going to be lying to you since almost everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie?
 
marke said:
I have no respect for those democrats claim are godly and yet who support the ungodly atheistic policies of the godless democrat party.
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Political parties should be godless.


But if you prefer a Party of God, it is otherwise known as "Hezbollah".
 
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