The Media Is Against Free Speech

[MrNiceGuy]

The problem the media has with what Elon Musk is doing, is that he wants to let people have free speech.

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[TheParser]

Wokesters support the freedom to agree with them.

Anyone else should be forced to shut up.

If you agree with MSNBC or the New York Times, you may express your opinion.

Otherwise, you are expected to keep your mouth shut.

In the coming decades, as this nation changes, Americans will be as censored as the Chinese, the Russians, the Iranians, etc., are now.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

whiny right winger. YOu know everything you believe is complete bullshit, so whine about fake news and bias. You don't have the right to lie and pretend its the truth. And as typical, completely bastardize what free speech means. Same pathetic tired nonsense reiterated over and over and constantly proven to complete nonsense. Anyway, troll away, its all you know how to do

Sorry you people don't care about facts and every one of your shitty beliefs is wrong, and you people are always on the wrong side of history no matter how much you act like terrorists

 

[Easton Kai]

whiny right winger. YOu know everything you believe is complete bullshit, so whine about fake news and bias. You don't have the right to lie and pretend its the truth. And as typical, completely bastardize what free speech means. Same pathetic tired nonsense reiterated over and over and constantly proven to complete nonsense. Anyway, troll away, its all you know how to do

Sorry you people don't care about facts and every one of your shitty beliefs is wrong, and you people are always on the wrong side of history no matter how much you act like terrorists

Derp.

 

[LouC]

"THE MEDIA IS AGAINST FREE SPEECH"

According to the BLS there are, in National estimates for News Analysts, Reporters, and Journalists, aka MEDIA, 39,080 of them in our country working under the auspices of the First Amendment.

Now, if you would, please name any single member of that cadre of MEDIA and post their statement that they are AGAINST FREE SPEECH.

Thanks in advance.

 

[jonny5]

"THE MEDIA IS AGAINST FREE SPEECH"

According to the BLS there are, in National estimates for News Analysts, Reporters, and Journalists, aka MEDIA, 39,080 of them in our country working under the auspices of the First Amendment.

Now, if you would, please name any single member of that cadre of MEDIA and post their statement that they are AGAINST FREE SPEECH.

Thanks in advance.

"For democracy to survive, we need more content moderation, not less." - Washington Post columnist Max Boot

You're welcome.

 

[jonny5]

"THE MEDIA IS AGAINST FREE SPEECH"

According to the BLS there are, in National estimates for News Analysts, Reporters, and Journalists, aka MEDIA, 39,080 of them in our country working under the auspices of the First Amendment.

Now, if you would, please name any single member of that cadre of MEDIA and post their statement that they are AGAINST FREE SPEECH.

Thanks in advance.

New York Times editorial board member Greg Bensinger

"First, Mr. Agrawal must restore trust in the site by better policing misinformation spread by politicians and celebrities,"

 

[Vadinho]

Corporations do not have to grant anyone free speech access to their platforms. The government can and does control some forms of free speech. We are learning once again that certain forms of free speech can be dangerous to the nation and its people. We learned it in the 30s and we are learning it again via Russia's propaganda machine today. The rise of Fox and right wing media has turned into a monster that could eat its own if left unchecked. As with Nazis and communists, a nation has the right and the duty to protect itself from propaganda.

 

[j brown's body]

No one objects to anyone's right to stand on a corner and speak to their hearts content.

Owners of media have had standards for speech for as long as they have existed. Those standards once helped readers have faith that what they are reading is reliable and valid.

we now have a political party that wants to eliminate standards. But even Fox News, which has no such quibble with standards is going to let anybody on their network who has something to say.

 

[Helix]

The first amendment does not give people the right to violate ToS on a social media site.

 

[LouC]

"For democracy to survive, we need more content moderation, not less." - Washington Post columnist Max Boot

You're welcome.

Good job!

You found one.

The full Max Boot Quote:

I am frightened by the impact on society and politics if Elon Musk acquires Twitter. He seems to believe that on social media anything goes. For democracy to survive, we need more content moderation, not less.

He was speaking of a privately owned venue, where as one should know to not expect the FREE SPEECH guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Also he spoke of moderation of free speech, he did not specify that it wouldn't be self moderation, but no doubt he was thinking of venue moderated speech.

But again, I would agree, in the general rather than the specific, you found an example.

Betting Max didn't realize the depth of the swamp his comment pulled him into.

 

[Airyaman]

The problem the media has with what Elon Musk is doing, is that he wants to let people have free speech.

Manufacturing Consent

Why are you whining about free speech as a member of this forum? You don't have free speech here.

 

[LouC]

New York Times editorial board member Greg Bensinger

Another one!

Love it when I challenge and I get a response, even if I get proven wrong!



Those two are opening a can of whup ass worms on themselves.

 

[LouC]

Why are you whining about free speech as a member of this forum? You don't have free speech here.

Like I posted recently I received a 1000 year ban at another similar venue where many of their most popular threads were all about R-wingers getting their "free speech" violated on social media platforms.

Too funny.

 

[natman]

Another one!

Love it when I challenge and I get a response, even if I get proven wrong!

Respect for having the strength of character to admit it.

It's a rare quality here.

 

[LouC]

Respect for having the strength of character to admit it.

It's a rare quality here.

Thanks.

I try to achieve that in all things.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Why are you whining about free speech as a member of this forum? You don't have free speech here.

What are you on about? I'm starting a thread discussing how the major media is against free speech and in favor of censorship.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

whiny right winger. YOu know everything you believe is complete bullshit, so whine about fake news and bias. You don't have the right to lie and pretend its the truth. And as typical, completely bastardize what free speech means. Same pathetic tired nonsense reiterated over and over and constantly proven to complete nonsense. Anyway, troll away, its all you know how to do

Sorry you people don't care about facts and every one of your shitty beliefs is wrong, and you people are always on the wrong side of history no matter how much you act like terrorists

Right winger? I'm Liberal. And, Jimmy Dore is an avowed Socialist, and was formerly a member of the Young Turks broadcast. He's no right winger. Did you watch his video?

Why wouldn't right wingers have the right to lie and pretend it's the truth? Left wingers have that same right and they exercise it all the time.

Who bastardized what free speech means here? How?

It's YOU who don't care about facts. If you did care, you'd not say half the crap you do on this form.

 

[LouC]

What are you on about? I'm starting a thread discussing how the major media is against free speech and in favor of censorship.

Considering, to my knowledge, most major media entities have "content" and or "editorial boards" and have had such for decades and decades, in essence these "content" and or "editorial boards" working as in house censorship staffs, picking and choosing that which will be allowed to be aired or printed and censoring which will not; I would have to agree with you.

 

[lurchadams]

The problem the media has with what Elon Musk is doing, is that he wants to let people have free speech.

Manufacturing Consent

Uh oh. Someone still pissed the fat orange king was tossed.

By the way, he was tossed because he broke the rules. You Republicans want accountability for everyone but yourselves.

 

[lurchadams]

Wokesters support the freedom to agree with them.

Anyone else should be forced to shut up.

If you agree with MSNBC or the New York Times, you may express your opinion.,
Otherwise, you are expected to keep your mouth shut.

In the coming decades, as this nation changes, Americans will be as censored as the Chinese, the Russians, the Iranians, etc., are now.

He broke the rules my friend. You can whine about it all you want. There are rules. There are rules here - you break them, you get tossed. Please do cease your incessant whining and deal with it.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

"THE MEDIA IS AGAINST FREE SPEECH"

According to the BLS there are, in National estimates for News Analysts, Reporters, and Journalists, aka MEDIA, 39,080 of them in our country working under the auspices of the First Amendment.

Now, if you would, please name any single member of that cadre of MEDIA and post their statement that they are AGAINST FREE SPEECH.

Thanks in advance.

Did you watch the video? He starts with showing MSNBC hosts saying exactly that free speech is dangerous.

They are outraged that Elon Musk might control Twitter, but they LOVED Bezos buying Washington Post, and right now Twitter is owned by billionaires already, and they don't seem to mind. What they mind is that a guy who says "more freedom of speech is good."

How about Jeff Bezos owning the Washington Post, and having contracts with the CIA?

The MSNBC host says there are "massive consequences to just letting people run wild on the internet." People saying what they want to say is, to her, "running wild." LOL

Watch the video before you comment.

 

[Airyaman]

What are you on about? I'm starting a thread discussing how the major media is against free speech and in favor of censorship.

No, they are in favor of allowing social media platforms to regulate speech. Like Debate Politics does.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Corporations do not have to grant anyone free speech access to their platforms. The government can and does control some forms of free speech. We are learning once again that certain forms of free speech can be dangerous to the nation and its people. We learned it in the 30s and we are learning it again via Russia's propaganda machine today. The rise of Fox and right wing media has turned into a monster that could eat its own if left unchecked. As with Nazis and communists, a nation has the right and the duty to protect itself from propaganda.

Nazis and communists have freedom of speech, and the ACLU has even fought to protect it, a la National Socialist Party v City of Skokie. Look it up. It'll be an education for you. And Yates v United States upheld the first amendment right of communists to advocate their ideas. As horrible as Nazis and communists are, they both have freedom of speech.

This trend on the Left to poo-poo freedom of speech is disconcerting. Why you folks are coming forward to defend corporate media giants, owned by billionaires, hedge funds and Saudi Princes, but you have some problem with Elon Musk because he advocates MORE FREEDOM on the internet, is really flabbergasting.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

No, they are in favor of allowing social media platforms to regulate speech. Like Debate Politics does.

That isn't what they're in favor of. If Musk bought it, social media platforms would still be "able" to regulate speech. What they are objecting to is the notion that a Musk owned Twitter would instead CHOOSE NOT TO DO SO. That's a big difference, dontcha think?

They WANT the regulation (of others) because they believe - as the corporate media -- that they control the narrative, and they should control the narrative. They worry that if Musk takes over Twitter, they won't anymore.