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The Marxist left's ongoing attempts to undermine & destroy the nuclear family

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I'm including a video that starts out with over 6 mins of documented facts which prove that kids of a single parent household are statistically FAR more likely to have many more troubles and struggles in life, as will be the case with the mother herself! Although there are many issues where I fall left of center(environment, gay marriage, early term abortion, marijuana legalization etc), there are MANY other issues that absolutely preclude me from ever joining the progressive movement as an ideological supporter. One of them, is their radical, at-all-costs political/ideological strategy for eventually forcing their ideology and dogma onto society. Its the unequivocally evil and insidious strategies of cultural Marxism that have led to the absolute destruction of the 2 parent, nuclear family in the black community! In the 60s, single mothers were a rarity in the black AND white communities(20% single mothers in black community). But the so called "great society" programs instituted the 60s, have caused the single parent household in the black community to become the majority(now in the 70% range overall, with inner city black community over 80% single mothers)! That's happened in less than 50 years! To be clear, I support 2 parent same-sex families, but I hope that both parents are caring and responsible, regardless of the sexual orientation(2 good male or female parents are better than just 1).

The democrats' "great society" encourages and rewards YOUNG, POOR black girls to start having kids in their late teens, without a father, in exchange for free housing, free food, free money etc. All the while, they are constantly told they can't get ahead otherwise, due to "omnipresent, systemic racism". They will live in the inner city black communities, surrounded by terrible influences, including gangs, hard drugs, high rates of violence and murder, crime etc. But now it's become a self perpetuating cycle. But that cycle always begins with a poor, single parent, living in a housing project, with NO father, while always hearing that there's no hope of improving their situation!

The left and democrats have also come a long way towards destroying the nuclear family in the Latino community as well. ALL the stats show that the same policies used on blacks, are pushing increasingly higher percentages of Latino girls to start having kids, alone, before being being married, and long before being financially or mentally prepared for it.

So why are the left STILL trying to discourage 2 parent households, by pushing the insidiously false narrative that women are "better off raising kids WITHOUT a father around"? Simple... The stats all show that single mothers are more likely to vote democrat! They are more likely to vote for the very people who encouraged them to put themselves and their kids into the worst possible situation for everyone! Also, Marxists made it clear long ago, that in order to create a socialist monopoly state, the basic systems that strengthen society, must be systematically undermined and destroyed. Then, once everyone is failing in life, the socialists step in, take over, and
and become the 'new societal savior'.

Watch the details in the first half of this video. It should make people see the leftist movement for the negative force that it truly is:
 

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The decay of the family and marriage too has profound implications, many of which those on the Left who have been pushing the decay of the family and marriage intended. My problem goes beyond that though, because all too often those on the right failed to stand up for the best interests of the family just like they failed to stand up for the best interest of America....and we know too that they have been colossal liars on par with the Left.




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cultural marxism:

A social and political movement that promotes unreason and irrationality through the guise of various 'causes'.


So let me get this straight...because I am a liberal Democrat, it is assumed that I am celebrating the destruction of families?
Yeah, right.

Obvious troll bait thread is obvious.
 

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cultural marxism:

A social and political movement that promotes unreason and irrationality through the guise of various 'causes'.


So let me get this straight...because I am a liberal Democrat, it is assumed that I am celebrating the destruction of families?
Yeah, right.

Obvious troll bait thread is obvious.


Well, of all political movements, I don't think classical liberalism is responsibility for any position on the nuclear family.
 

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cultural marxism:

A social and political movement that promotes unreason and irrationality through the guise of various 'causes'.


So let me get this straight...because I am a liberal Democrat, it is assumed that I am celebrating the destruction of families?
Yeah, right.

Obvious troll bait thread is obvious.
Maybe you don’t literally support that yourself, but it is hard to argue how abortion on demand, the denigration of religion, centralized social welfare, and the LGBT movement have created an environment where the nuclear 2 parent family is seen as obsolete, much to the detriment of the young
 

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Maybe you don’t literally support that yourself, but it is hard to argue how abortion on demand, the denigration of religion, centralized social welfare, and the LGBT movement have created an environment where the nuclear 2 parent family is seen as obsolete, much to the detriment of the young

Abortion is a choice. Nothing forces people to GET abortions, and plenty of other approaches make it unnecessary.
You fail to notice that plenty of pro-choice people work tirelessly to make it the last resort, in as few numbers as possible.

Denigration of religion? Are you seriously demanding that I support YOUR religion? Why? To make YOUR church happy?
More lies as usual, because plenty of liberals attend church.
Welfare is at an all time low in terms of what it pays. It is not possible to live on it in any state in the country, and no state offers UNLIMITED welfare for lifetime duration, so ANOTHER LIE.

LGBT? What is it with you people, was the death of Ryan White not enough to satisfy your sick twisted hatred? You think it's a choice, and you're flat out wrong.

The nuclear two parent family is fine, it's doing just fine, if it can afford to make ends meet.
Wanna know what's destroying families? It's the economy. Families can't afford the basics anymore.

You've succeeded in spewing nonsense that describes a fringe, and it's red meat for your buddies.
You don't have the guts to say 99% of this crap to anybody face to face because no one would take you seriously if you did.
But you sure are comfortable spewing it anonymously.

That anonymity is the only defense you have because if you had to talk to real people, like myself, for instance, you'd look and sound like a fool, and I would look and sound like what I am, a normal person with normal values.
 

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Well, of all political movements, I don't think classical liberalism is responsibility for any position on the nuclear family.

This isn't about classical liberalism. And classical liberalism in America today is right wing libertarianism anyway.
 

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Jesus, you guys have reached new depths of simplistic hyper partisan bull****tery. Liberals are the sole and primary reason why kids are born out of wedlock and many fathers don't stick around? You refuse to blame the individuals from both politicial parties that make poor life decisions and instead attempt to score political points by blaming "the other guys". No, it's not that simple.

Maybe you don’t literally support that yourself, but it is hard to argue how abortion on demand, the denigration of religion, centralized social welfare, and the LGBT movement have created an environment where the nuclear 2 parent family is seen as obsolete, much to the detriment of the young

It has nothing to do with people rejecting your particular flavor of imaginary deity. I also don't understand how abortion could be responsible for single parent households as abortion can only produce a zero parent household.

And really the LGBTs are the reason straight men are abandoning their families? Damn liberals making men cowards!

Completely full of hate and bull**** as always, EMN.
 
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Abortion is a choice. Nothing forces people to GET abortions, and plenty of other approaches make it unnecessary.
You fail to notice that plenty of pro-choice people work tirelessly to make it the last resort, in as few numbers as possible.

Denigration of religion? Are you seriously demanding that I support YOUR religion? Why? To make YOUR church happy?
More lies as usual, because plenty of liberals attend church.
Welfare is at an all time low in terms of what it pays. It is not possible to live on it in any state in the country, and no state offers UNLIMITED welfare for lifetime duration, so ANOTHER LIE.

LGBT? What is it with you people, was the death of Ryan White not enough to satisfy your sick twisted hatred? You think it's a choice, and you're flat out wrong.

The nuclear two parent family is fine, it's doing just fine, if it can afford to make ends meet.
Wanna know what's destroying families? It's the economy. Families can't afford the basics anymore.

You've succeeded in spewing nonsense that describes a fringe, and it's red meat for your buddies.
You don't have the guts to say 99% of this crap to anybody face to face because no one would take you seriously if you did.
But you sure are comfortable spewing it anonymously.

That anonymity is the only defense you have because if you had to talk to real people, like myself, for instance, you'd look and sound like a fool, and I would look and sound like what I am, a normal person with normal values.

I am perfectly comfortable telling all of my opinions face to face, in fact I do do regularly.

Let’s break some of this down, no the nuclear family has not broken down because of the economy, Americans are wealthier today then at any time in the nation’s history.

Ryan white has nothing to do with LGBT, well other then that their disease got to him through blood products he needed.

Abortion is a choice, all immoral actions are.


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Jesus, you guys have reached new depths of simplistic hyper partisan bull****tery. Liberals are the sole and primary reason why kids are born out of wedlock and many fathers don't stick around? You refuse to blame the individuals from both politicial parties that make poor life decisions and instead attempt to score political points by blaming "the other guys". No, it's not that simple.



It has nothing to do with people rejecting your particular flavor of imaginary deity. I also don't understand how abortion could be responsible for single parent households as abortion can only produce a zero parent household.

And really the LGBTs are the reason straight men are abandoning their families? Damn liberals making men cowards!

Completely full of hate and bull**** as always, EMN.

You have constructed a straw man. Obviously no one of these factors is solely responsible, but all
Together create an environment where traditional family structure is viewed as less valuable.



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You have constructed a straw man. Obviously no one of these factors is solely responsible, but all
Together create an environment where traditional family structure is viewed as less valuable.



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No I haven't, I'm attacking your own words. How can abortion create single parent households when the result of an abortion is no child? You didn't really think that one through before you tossed it out here.

I also see no connection to LGBTs having rights to having less two parent households. Those LGBTs wouldn't be in hetero marriages if the laws were different. In fact, the way it is now they're able to adopt children into their two parent household and thus create more nuclear families that otherwise wouldn't have existed. A nuclear family does not require hetero parents.

Welfare? If we just let families starve there would be less families. Not rocket science here, bud.

I also don't see a connection to religion. If you'd like to connect the dots of these things and explain how these factors are why the nuclear family is declining and why it's all liberals faults, go ahead.
 

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Jesus, you guys have reached new depths of simplistic hyper partisan bull****tery. Liberals are the sole and primary reason why kids are born out of wedlock and many fathers don't stick around? You refuse to blame the individuals from both politicial parties that make poor life decisions and instead attempt to score political points by blaming "the other guys". No, it's not that simple, and it has nothing to do with people rejecting your particular flavor of imaginary deity.

And actually it's the old depths. It's just that Americans have become so conditioned to eating these **** sandwiches that they actually think that they taste good now.

Once upon a time we were still awake enough to detect sham.

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This isn't about classical liberalism. And classical liberalism in America today is right wing libertarianism anyway.

Well, when he said he was a liberal democrat, I wanted to assume the best kind of liberalism!
 

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Well, when he said he was a liberal democrat, I wanted to assume the best kind of liberalism!

Sure...of course.
Don't mind me, I think you're derailing the thread because there isn't a single person on the planet that confuses modern day liberal Democrats with classical liberals, who today are recognized as right wing libertarians.
But you wouldn't be trying to derail the thread, would you?

Naaaahhhh...
 

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Sure...of course.
Don't mind me, I think you're derailing the thread because there isn't a single person on the planet that confuses modern day liberal Democrats with classical liberals, who today are recognized as right wing libertarians.
But you wouldn't be trying to derail the thread, would you?

Naaaahhhh...

Well, if you really wanted to use your noggin, you could say that I'm making a broader point about what is, or isn't, a liberal. And that, when one says "I'm liberal democrat", it's still important to ask "what kind of liberal?" because we live in time when there is a lot of intersectionality, so liberalism simply isn't going to mean the same thing to different people. That's why we can't pretend that it's all liberals that are trying to tear down the nuclear family, but rather, a select noisy few who belong to a radicalized leftist movement.
 

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Well, if you really wanted to use your noggin, you could say that I'm making a broader point about what is, or isn't, a liberal. And that, when one says "I'm liberal democrat", it's still important to ask "what kind of liberal?"

No, because a liberal Democrat isn't a classical liberal. There's no such thing as classical liberals anymore. The tag is similar to terms like "kilomegacycles" which is what engineers used before the term "gigahertz" came about. It's like asking if a person's telephone number is
"WHitehall-6-3624" when no one uses that type of telephone prefix anymore, but instead just say 946-3624.
It's like calling Western Union and asking to send a telegram.

Classical liberals aren't liberals, they're right wing libertarians, like the Koch Brothers. So you're not making a broader point, you're creating windyfoggery.
 

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Oh, by the way, no one is confusing Shea Butter with peanut butter, no one is confusing benzoyl with Olive Oyl, no one is confusing a Gallup Poll with a stripper pole, and no one is confusing classical music with classic rock.
 

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No, because a liberal Democrat isn't a classical liberal. There's no such thing as classical liberals anymore. The tag is similar to terms like "kilomegacycles" which is what engineers used before the term "gigahertz" came about. It's like asking if a person's telephone number is
"WHitehall-6-3624" when no one uses that type of telephone prefix anymore, but instead just say 946-3624.
It's like calling Western Union and asking to send a telegram.

Classical liberals aren't liberals, they're right wing libertarians, like the Koch Brothers. So you're not making a broader point, you're creating windyfoggery.

Yea yea, ok, so you're not going to address that the fact that there are many kinds of liberals, and that intersectionality has multiplied the differences?
 

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If you're a classical liberal, and you're a registered democrat, you could call yourself a liberal democrat.

If you're Eric Cartman, and you're an employee of Disney, you could call yourself Pinocchio.
 

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If you're Eric Cartman, and you're an employee of Disney, you could call yourself Pinocchio.

Yea yea, ok, back on topic. so you're not going to address that the fact that there are many kinds of liberals, and that intersectionality has multiplied the differences?
 

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I'm including a video that starts out with over 6 mins of documented facts which prove that kids of a single parent household are statistically FAR more likely to have many more troubles and struggles in life, as will be the case with the mother herself! Although there are many issues where I fall left of center(environment, gay marriage, early term abortion, marijuana legalization etc), there are MANY other issues that absolutely preclude me from ever joining the progressive movement as an ideological supporter. One of them, is their radical, at-all-costs political/ideological strategy for eventually forcing their ideology and dogma onto society. Its the unequivocally evil and insidious strategies of cultural Marxism that have led to the absolute destruction of the 2 parent, nuclear family in the black community! In the 60s, single mothers were a rarity in the black AND white communities(20% single mothers in black community). But the so called "great society" programs instituted the 60s, have caused the single parent household in the black community to become the majority(now in the 70% range overall, with inner city black community over 80% single mothers)! That's happened in less than 50 years! To be clear, I support 2 parent same-sex families, but I hope that both parents are caring and responsible, regardless of the sexual orientation(2 good male or female parents are better than just 1).

The democrats' "great society" encourages and rewards YOUNG, POOR black girls to start having kids in their late teens, without a father, in exchange for free housing, free food, free money etc. All the while, they are constantly told they can't get ahead otherwise, due to "omnipresent, systemic racism". They will live in the inner city black communities, surrounded by terrible influences, including gangs, hard drugs, high rates of violence and murder, crime etc. But now it's become a self perpetuating cycle. But that cycle always begins with a poor, single parent, living in a housing project, with NO father, while always hearing that there's no hope of improving their situation!

The left and democrats have also come a long way towards destroying the nuclear family in the Latino community as well. ALL the stats show that the same policies used on blacks, are pushing increasingly higher percentages of Latino girls to start having kids, alone, before being being married, and long before being financially or mentally prepared for it.

So why are the left STILL trying to discourage 2 parent households, by pushing the insidiously false narrative that women are "better off raising kids WITHOUT a father around"? Simple... The stats all show that single mothers are more likely to vote democrat! They are more likely to vote for the very people who encouraged them to put themselves and their kids into the worst possible situation for everyone! Also, Marxists made it clear long ago, that in order to create a socialist monopoly state, the basic systems that strengthen society, must be systematically undermined and destroyed. Then, once everyone is failing in life, the socialists step in, take over, and
and become the 'new societal savior'.

Watch the details in the first half of this video. It should make people see the leftist movement for the negative force that it truly is:

It would seem they have been met with sucess.
 

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Yea yea, ok, back on topic. so you're not going to address that the fact that there are many kinds of liberals, and that intersectionality has multiplied the differences?

So what is your focus on liberals? Conservatives are the same way. We have some some conservatives that are no better than ISIS on their religious views that being gay should be illegal and some conservatives even feel punishable by jail or death. Why do you focus on outliers and then try to pin the entire liberal ideology on that?
 

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So what is your focus on liberals? Conservatives are the same way. We have some some conservatives that are no better than ISIS on their religious views that being gay should be illegal and some conservatives even feel punishable by jail or death. Why do you focus on outliers and then try to pin the entire liberal ideology on that?

I'm not trying to pin the ideology on that. That's why I'm calling it out in such a way, mentioning "classical liberals". The marxists and the intersectional radical that we see are neither representative of liberals, nor are they truly liberals in the first place. Therefore, it's important to the thread, that we stick only with marxists, which is actually very hard to do among both the left and the right, because I think even the left will choose to identify itself with such radical forces if it means it can piss off conservatives. I really don't want the thread to devolve into "well, your side has socialists" "but your side has nazis!"
 

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cultural marxism:

A social and political movement that promotes unreason and irrationality through the guise of various 'causes'.


So let me get this straight...because I am a liberal Democrat, it is assumed that I am celebrating the destruction of families?
Yeah, right.

Obvious troll bait thread is obvious.

James972 started that dumpster fire thread on a topic similar to this one. The odd thing is the socio-economic factors that have been large contributors to the breakdown of the nuclear family aren't addressed. I also don't think there's a liberal agenda to erode the concept of a family either; the difference is liberals generally adapt to changes better than conservatives since the latter tend to want to keep value systems in spite of change. One can argue on the merits of any societal change; not all change is good. As an individual and a parent, I see the value of a nuclear family; however, I also understand that it's not going to be possible for everyone. So I'd rather be supportive of those who don't have nuclear families than shaming them; I find no useful purpose in that behavior.
 

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Yea yea, ok, back on topic. so you're not going to address that the fact that there are many kinds of liberals, and that intersectionality has multiplied the differences?

I didn't say I wasn't interested in addressing the many different kinds of liberals, I am saying that any attempt at pretending that a person could be a "classical liberal" (i.e., like the Koch Brothers) AND a Democrat at the same time is absurd. A "liberal Democrat" would most likely be in the mold of an FDR, or a diBlasio, or an Elizabeth Warren (Warren on the milder end of the scale) or a Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on the other end of the scale.
Likewise, the opposite would be a Blue Dog like a Joe Manchin.
There is no "Venn Diagram" that intersects classical liberals and Democrats.
It's like attempting to fit solid rubber forklift tires or wooden wagon wheels to an 11,000 horsepower NHRA Top Fuel nitromethane powered dragster, or putting lace on a bowling ball, and with that I believe I have exhausted a fair amount of colorful metaphors sufficient to reinforce my point.

So called "classical liberalism" (known today as Right Wing Libertarianism) sits entirely outside the Democratic Party ideology.

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