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The many paths from Trump to Russia

marke said:
Trump is bad for supposedly having been offered a business deal that fell through? Or Trump is bad because Russians bought property from him? Lefties just will not be reasonable. Is there some sort of deliberateness in this blind open hatred for Trump?
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See that's just your FANTASY, which bears no relation to reality. People have very valid good reasons to dislike Trupm, rational, logical reasons, that you are unable to fathom. Says more about you thn those who, seeing quite well, dislike Trump.

Trump has done nothing but lie and fail for the American epeople, and you folks would reward him for that. You can get in a froth about Obama playing golf, but you're willing to spend taxpayer dollars paid to Trump's pocket, because you have NO ETHICS and NO STANDARDS. It's really astounding the depths of your hypocrisy, and the absolute PRIDE you take in it.
 
markjs said:
See that's just your FANTASY, which bears no relation to reality. People have very valid good reasons to dislike Trupm, rational, logical reasons, that you are unable to fathom. Says more about you thn those who, seeing quite well, dislike Trump.

Trump has done nothing but lie and fail for the American epeople, and you folks would reward him for that. You can get in a froth about Obama playing golf, but you're willing to spend taxpayer dollars paid to Trump's pocket, because you have NO ETHICS and NO STANDARDS. It's really astounding the depths of your hypocrisy, and the absolute PRIDE you take in it.
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Such drivel is typical of raving rants from deluded democrats hooked on Obammunism.
 
marke said:
Such drivel is typical of raving rants from deluded democrats hooked on Obammunism.
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You really always lose these dabates so badly with your uninformed nonsense. Must get old as it happens literally every time?
 
Amelia said:
The FBI demonstrated grave concern about a sitting president acting like a Russian agent, and that is all the effort you put into deflecting for him?

Lazy.
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So what is the rationale of that grave concern?
 
marke said:
Trump is bad for supposedly having been offered a business deal that fell through? Or Trump is bad because Russians bought property from him? Lefties just will not be reasonable. Is there some sort of deliberateness in this blind open hatred for Trump?
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Trump told you multiple times that he had no business with Russia. Why did he lie to you? What is every single lie that has been exposed to do with Russian contacts?
 
Athanasius68 said:
So what is the rationale of that grave concern?
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Trumps behaviors in office. What else? What do you do when a President appoints a Russian stooge as NSA advisor even when warned not to, tries to lift all Russian sanctions and reveals top secret information to Russian spies he invited to a private meeting in the Oval Office? You do what you can to mitigate damages. You withhold our most sensitive secrets from him, you get Congress to pass a bill that ends his authority over sanctions and you hope you can remove him from office when Mueller is finished.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-leaks-us-intelligence-agencies-sensitive-information-2017-2
 
If only dems would just come forward with some evidence. Any lefty here have any idea when your evidence will actually be shown to us?
 
iguanaman said:
Trump told you multiple times that he had no business with Russia. Why did he lie to you? What is every single lie that has been exposed to do with Russian contacts?
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Trump talked with Russians in business. Now he has to talk with Russians as President. What is the frikken problem with the leftists about that?
 
marke said:
Trump talked with Russians in business. Now he has to talk with Russians as President. What is the frikken problem with the leftists about that?
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You mean he had secret talks with Putin for business that he lied to you about having and now is having more secret talks about who knows what as OUR President. The "friggen problem" is that you don't see a problem with any of that. Putin is an adversary of U.S. interests and security. Do you even know that?
 
iguanaman said:
You mean he had secret talks with Putin for business that he lied to you about having and now is having more secret talks about who knows what as OUR President. The "friggen problem" is that you don't see a problem with any of that. Putin is an adversary of U.S. interests and security. Do you even know that?
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Maybe if you actually had some sort of transcript demonstrating Trump's supposed evil intentions in discussions with Putin you might get me to start considering your conspiracy theory more plausible.
 
AlphaOmega said:
If only dems would just come forward with some evidence. Any lefty here have any idea when your evidence will actually be shown to us?
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There is plenty of evidence in Trump's own behavior and tweets. He spouts the Russian's propaganda like it was his own. He takes Putin's side in Helsinki too. Open your eyes, if Trumps mouth is moving it is to advance Putin's interests.
 
marke said:
Maybe if you actually had some sort of transcript demonstrating Trump's supposed evil intentions in discussions with Putin you might get me to start considering your conspiracy theory more plausible.
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There are no theories only evidence. Maybe you could give me one time Trump has held Putin accountable for anything or even a reason for Trumps constant regurgitation of Kremlin propaganda. Also why do think the 1st thing he tried to do when he was President was this.....



President Donald Trump’s administration moved quickly to try and lift economic sanctions on Russia and other punishments former President Barack Obama had put in place as soon as it took office in January, according to multiple sources who have spoken with Yahoo News.

“There was serious consideration by the White House to unilaterally rescind the sanctions,” according to Dan Fried, who retired in February as Coordinator for Sanctions Policy at the State Department.

Fried told veteran investigative journalist Michael Isikoff, a former national investigative correspondent for NBC News and Newsweek alumnus, that in the early weeks of the administration he got several “panicky” calls from U.S. officials. They asked: “Please, my God, can’t you stop this?”

The sanctions in question included those imposed by Obama for Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014 and others inflicted late last year to punish Moscow for its suspected efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. The plans Trump’s administration considered early on included returning diplomatic compounds seized from Russia in late 2016—recent reports say Trump is currently working to put this plan into action.
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-white-house-secret-efforts-lift-russia-sanctions-putin-619508
 
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iguanaman said:
There is plenty of evidence in Trump's own behavior and tweets. He spouts the Russian's propaganda like it was his own. He takes Putin's side in Helsinki too. Open your eyes, if Trumps mouth is moving it is to advance Putin's interests.
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Show me your best puece if evidence. I have not seen a single real piece of evidence from any russia didiots thus far.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Show me your best puece if evidence. I have not seen a single real piece of evidence from any russia didiots thus far.
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There is plenty of evidence in plain sight. Trump believes if he breaks laws publicly it somehow negates the illegality. Asking the Russians to hack Hillary's emails is but one early example. Spending the entire campaign parroting Putin words on the illegal hacking when he knew all along it was a lie is another,
 
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iguanaman said:
There is plenty of evidence in plain sight. Trump believes if he breaks laws publicly it somehow negates the illegality. Asking the Russians to hack Hillary's emails is but one early example.
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Hahahha...Is that your best evidence?
 
AlphaOmega said:
Hahahha...Is that your best evidence?
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I'm glad you find that amusing. It is evidence that Trump was inviting foreign Govt. interference in our elections and that is illegal. And guess what. We now know that his request was answered by the Russian GRU.

Russian spies began trying to hack Hillary Clinton’s personal email server on the very day Donald Trump urged the Russian government to find emails Clinton had erased, prosecutors said on Friday.
An indictment filed by Robert Mueller, the special counsel, said Russian hackers attempted “for the first time” to break into email accounts used by Clinton’s personal office “after hours” on 27 July 2016.

That day, at an event in Florida, Trump invited the Russian state to search for the approximately 30,000 emails that Clinton was found to have deleted from her private server on the grounds that they were not related to government work.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/13/russians-hillary-clinton-email-server-trump-indictment
 
iguanaman said:
There are no theories only evidence. Maybe you could give me one time Trump has held Putin accountable for anything or even a reason for Trumps constant regurgitation of Kremlin propaganda. Also why do think the 1st thing he tried to do when he was President was this.....





https://www.newsweek.com/trump-white-house-secret-efforts-lift-russia-sanctions-putin-619508
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Obama unilaterally violated the long standing declaration of a U.S. state of emergency still in place freezing Iran's assets since 1979. Why Obama thought he could just take $1.7 billion U.S. dollars and give it to Iran without consulting Congress is still a mystery. Nevertheless, we allowed Obama to make executive decisions even if we did not understand them or thought they were wrong. If the democrats were decent American patriots they would do the same for Trump.
 
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