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The Many Faces of Tehran

Axismaster said:
Israel policies are clearly inseperable from those of Nazi Germany.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!:rofl


You just missed that bus, I saw them get on, they did look as if one fellow member was missing..........


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Axismaster said:
Israel policies are clearly inseperable from those of Nazi Germany.


Must be nice to be able to create one's own alternate universe at will.

I've been able to think up some doozies, but I haven't ever mastrered the ability to actually believe in them.
 
Gardener said:
Must be nice to be able to create one's own alternate universe at will.

I've been able to think up some doozies, but I haven't ever mastrered the ability to actually believe in them.

Ah, the ignorance of those who deny the coming of the New World Order.
 
Axismaster said:
Ah, the ignorance of those who deny the coming of the New World Order.

Always nice to have a child younger than my son calling me ignorant because my perception of the world is based upon real history as opposed to the random perusal of internet conspiracy and hate sites.

Nature abhors a vacuum, and if one's mind is such it is all too easy to allow the internet to fill the void. I suppose from your standpoint it must be to my detriment that my mind was not such a complete void, because where you gobble up paranoid notions uncritically and repeat them without so much as an independant thought, I view them as the ramblings of delusional people incapable of rationality. I am not so gullible nor unintelligent to believe the ravings of those who wish to recreate the world in order to fit their hatred. To each their own, I guess.

If you are under the delusion that Israel has invaded and occupied a dozen countries, has subjected many tens of millions of people to its will, and is systematically exterminating people by rounding them up in cattle cars and sending them to camps where they are gassed en masse, then I might suggest you need a wee little bit more than a good history lesson.
 
Axismaster said:
Regardless of what they did Deegan, bombing them into submission is not the answer.

It's ONE answer, and with each passing day it looks more and more like it is THE answer. We are running out of other options.

Axismaster said:
Let democracy take its own turn. Eventually the west and true freedom will work their way in and Iran will be free.

What if that doesn't happen until after Iran has nukes and has destroyed the Middle East? Come to think of it, what makes you so sure this will happen at all?

Axismaster said:
We just need to be strong and resilient when it comes to freeing the Middle East from Islamofascism, but we need to do it in the way we freed Europe from communism, not through war.

We didn't go to war because the USSR HAD NUKES. If they didn't, we almost certainly would have, and that would have been a good thing. Iran, on the other hand, does not have nukes yet. That's what we're trying to prevent. Better to democratize Iran now than go through another prolonged Cold War.

Axismaster said:
That means no gunfire from our own side and localized uprisings hopefully more in the line of the Velvet Revolution than bloody warfare.

If the Iranians want to rise up and overthrow their government in the next few months, I'm all for it and I think we should encourage them to do so. But a few months is as much time as we can afford to spare. Iran must NOT get nukes, at least not while it is controlled by insane theocrats.

Axismaster said:
I just think you neo-cons are too bloodthirsty and are willing to put idealism ahead of reason and pragmatism.

I, for one, am not a neocon yet I support military action against Iran. It's not reasonable or pragmatic to allow a government incapable of being deterred to obtain nuclear weapons.

Axismaster said:
Let me tell you, realism beat idealism in the end every time.

Agreed. So put your idealism aside and look at reality: Military action against Iran is better than Iran destroying the entire Middle East, and perhaps much of Eastern Europe too.
 
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