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I'm not a Christian, and I almost always vote for the GOP candidates.
The looming GOP civil war -- whether Mitt wins or not - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com
Just thought I would post this interesting article. IMO it has been coming since the rise of the Tea Party, the struggle within the GOP between the pragmatists (moderates) and the idealists (far-right, social conservatives). Can a party as idealogically at odds as the GOP survive in a 21st century climate? How can the GOP start winning over Latinos, non-christains, non-believers and African Americans (demographics that are on the rise)?
There probably be no civil war. Any strains of popular Tea Party-style conservatism that get into Congress will be quickly tamed by the "moderates."
How the GOP copes with its shrinking electorate I'm not sure.
Why is the fact that the far left has taken over the democratic party never talked about? Ever since Pelosi won her battle to take over the house leadership in 2004 the party has gotten more and more extreme. This year's party platform calls for unrestricted abortion at any time for any reason regardless of ability to pay. Way out of the mainstream. Traditional marraige is now viewed by the party as extreme despite the fact that 32 states have voted against gay marraige. The Catholic Church is being forced to violate their beliefs and pay for sterilizations, abortifacients and contraception. When a republican president sat in the White House dem party leadership tried to sabotage Iraq war success.
As far as winning over Latinos they have definitely reached out and are making an effort. Both US Hispanic Governors are republican including the first Hispanic female governor. Rubio is one of only 2 Hispanic Senators and republicans had 5 new Hispanic Congressional members elected in 2010. The only female Hispanic Congressional member is a republican.
The looming GOP civil war -- whether Mitt wins or not - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com
Just thought I would post this interesting article. IMO it has been coming since the rise of the Tea Party, the struggle within the GOP between the pragmatists (moderates) and the idealists (far-right, social conservatives). Can a party as idealogically at odds as the GOP survive in a 21st century climate? How can the GOP start winning over Latinos, non-christains, non-believers and African Americans (demographics that are on the rise)?
My case in point.
Sounds to me like a bunch of Liberal Hacks yammering on about a political movement they don't belong to, oppose, and don't understand in the slightest....
This Civil War has already been fought. The Far Right won, which is why there are no such creatures like 'moderate' Republicans. Moderate, to the Far Right, is a dirty word. They don't even use it any more. They prefer the term RINO, which applies to any Republican who believes in political compromise and who doesn't have a social agenda straight out of Leave It To Beaver.
Well, political scientists want to claim we have an increase in "partisans" in Congress and less self-identified (or otherwise) "moderates" which reach compromise. There is some truth in that analysis of theirs, but their empircal data generally doesn't take into consideration matters before the 1970s, or an evaluation of the intellectual disputes between each Party.
I am a bit confused how does this fit into the grid lock of today?
I don't see a 'civil war" looming. What I see is that the GOP must try and expand its base by dropping alot of its hyperbole and overblown rhetoric and stop filabustering for the sake of party ideology. They were not hired to play politics with our futures nor were the liberals. Both sides need to stop behaving like a bullying in a school yard brawl and or spoiled ass children who won't play fair or at all UNLESS THEY get their way. This is not what they were hired to do.
Until this happens the faith and confidence of the American people in thesee clowns will continue to slide . But a 5% there is not much further they can go.
Well, that was the heart of the discussion. A number of political scientists started taking polling data and other bits of analysis over Congress from the past several years and concluded that the moderates in both parties had nearly evaporated, leaving a dramatic number of self-identified partisans. The authors then make the argument it is hard to have much in the way of compromise without those moderates working to pull the poles closer together on certain issues. I think there is much to that, but there's other things that are left unexplained, particularly why we seem to think that things are "worse" than in the past, when they provide no real look at the past.
The GOP will either adapt to a changing world or it will become irrelevant. It's a simple matter of demographics.
The GOP will either adapt to a changing world or it will become irrelevant. It's a simple matter of demographics.
This is a bit off topic but do you remember Frank Church or John Anderson. Did you think they were moderate cons?
The looming GOP civil war -- whether Mitt wins or not - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com
Just thought I would post this interesting article. IMO it has been coming since the rise of the Tea Party, the struggle within the GOP between the pragmatists (moderates) and the idealists (far-right, social conservatives). Can a party as idealogically at odds as the GOP survive in a 21st century climate? How can the GOP start winning over Latinos, non-christains, non-believers and African Americans (demographics that are on the rise)?
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