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And your point is...There's a problem. It certainly isn't the biggest problem by far.
And your point is...There's a problem. It certainly isn't the biggest problem by far.
And we were vigilant. But since "it isn't the biggest problem by far," I guess vigilance is no longer necessary. Imagine if these shooters were Muslim.Does the number really even matter. At one time I really thought we just had to worry about Islamic terrorists now we have our own home grown terrorists who have actually killed more Americans than the Islamc terrorists in the USA since 2001
This is a burden of proof reversal. Google is your friend and it still has nothig to do with White Supremacist murders and the reason as outlined in my post not to mention most crimes comitted by blacks are on other blacks;Let's say we eliminate all racially motivated white on Black murders. How many murders would remain, percentage-wise? It's like talking about a leaky faucet on the Titanic. Sure, the leaky faucet is bad and it needs to be fixed. But there's other stuff going on.
Wait...did you REALLY just say that you love how people try to "shift the conversation"?I love way people try to shift the conversation. The other crimes you are referring too, tend to be gang related and turf wars and they shoot each other. Admittedly there are a couple of shootings that have resulted in innocent bystanders being killed or hurt. They don't go out and kill people just for the color of their skin or beliefs. The people who fear blacks and/or hispanics shooting others are others like them and unless you live in an area like that whites really have nothing to worry about
White Supremacists literally HUNT down and kill others for no reason other than the color of their skin or their religion. Some people tend to justify these shootings by claiming the shooter has a mental illness. Yea he does a RACIST mental illness. Your argument is just another senseless whataboutism. Just bein' real
First of all the OP just showed a bunch of pics that I have no idea what it represented.Wait...did you REALLY just say that you love how people try to "shift the conversation"?
The conversation in the OP LITERALLY demonstrated how the mindless leftist rhetoric claiming mass shootings are about 'white supremacy' is a provable, demonstrable lie...and then leftists here set about...to make the whole topic be about white supremacy and terrorism and LITERALLY having ****-all to do with the leftist touted figure of 636 mass shootings in 2021.
Where there are 227 of those reports 636 mass shootings with known perpetrators,
Perpetrators by race :
Black 192 (74%)
White 31 (12%)
Latino 31 (12%)
Asian 4 (2%)
NOT white supremacists. NOT the lefts favorite baba yaga.
And By the way...is it REALLY your standard...counting the number of whites that target blacks due to the color of thier skin? I mean...dont get me wrong...thats reprehensible and I think they should all be dropped in a hole...but do you hold the same standard for blacks that attack Asians due to their race? Blacks that attack whites for their race? Blacks that attack Latinos for their race?
If the number doesn't matter, and "the number" is "deaths of Black people", what else are you using to measure how big the issue is?Does the number really even matter. At one time I really thought we just had to worry about Islamic terrorists now we have our own home grown terrorists who have actually killed more Americans than the Islamc terrorists in the USA since 2001
I have p;osted enouogh info to support my claims. Gotta run. Have a nice day !!If the number doesn't matter, and "the number" is "deaths of Black people", what else are you using to measure how big the issue is?
I have p;osted enouogh info to support my claims. Gotta run. Have a nice day !!
A study that identifies just 18% of the suspects doesn't have enough data to make any claims.First of all the OP just showed a bunch of pics that I have no idea what it represented.
The title of the thread is "The link between White Supremacy and Mass Shootings" and that is what addressed.
I also have no idea where you got your numbers from as you provided no supporting link.
This is an Asian American publication. Just for the record I am half Filipino. When certain media report info they focus on black crime like Faux news and other conservative outlets which make sure they depict specific crimes for their target audience
New report analyzes race of perpetrators in anti-Asian attacks
A new report out analyzing the race of suspects in anti-Asian attacks found in 184 incidents analyzed, news articles identified 89% of the suspects as White.
The report relied on information culled from news accounts. The authors from the University of Michigan’s Viral Hate Project reviewed 4,337 stories connected to 1,023 unique incidents.
Those stories identified the race of the suspects in just 18 percent of the incidents. In those incidents, the stories identified 165 of the offenders as White and 10 as Black.
“The information that we have, while limited and imperfect, does not support the common claim that Black hostility is driving the current epidemic of anti-Asian racism and violence,” the authors wrote.
Melissa Borja, Ph.D. and Jacob Gibson, who wrote the report, acknowledged more work needs to be done on this topic to uncover trends in anti-Asian harassment and practices in the news media’s coverage of race.
New report analyzes race of perpetrators in anti-Asian attacks – AsAmNews
Findings do not support popular misconceptions about the Asian and Black communitiesasamnews.com
Which shooters? In the last few weeks there have been 6 mass shootings. 1 Muslim influenced Asian, 1 Asian man, 1 black man in New York city, 10 "unidentified suspects" arrested in Milwaukee on 14 May, another "unidentified suspect" arrested in Milwaukee later that night after shooting 3 people also in Milwaukee, and of course 1 white shooter in Buffalo.And we were vigilant. But since "it isn't the biggest problem by far," I guess vigilance is no longer necessary. Imagine if these shooters were Muslim.
And the OP then posted a picture of all the mass shooters arrested in 2021 to demonstrate that the leftist bullshit about mass shooters being a problem of "white supremacy" is a lie. And you...like the other leftists...ignored the FACT that 80% of the mass shooters were black males and said "uh huh? See? White Supremacy. Thats right George....white supremacy...uh huh. Its true. No...really....."First of all the OP just showed a bunch of pics that I have no idea what it represented.
The title of the thread is "The link between White Supremacy and Mass Shootings" and that is what addressed.
I also have no idea where you got your numbers from as you provided no supporting link.
This is an Asian American publication. Just for the record I am half Filipino. When certain media report info they focus on black crime like Faux news and other conservative outlets which make sure they depict specific crimes for their target audience
New report analyzes race of perpetrators in anti-Asian attacks
A new report out analyzing the race of suspects in anti-Asian attacks found in 184 incidents analyzed, news articles identified 89% of the suspects as White.
The report relied on information culled from news accounts. The authors from the University of Michigan’s Viral Hate Project reviewed 4,337 stories connected to 1,023 unique incidents.
Those stories identified the race of the suspects in just 18 percent of the incidents. In those incidents, the stories identified 165 of the offenders as White and 10 as Black.
“The information that we have, while limited and imperfect, does not support the common claim that Black hostility is driving the current epidemic of anti-Asian racism and violence,” the authors wrote.
Melissa Borja, Ph.D. and Jacob Gibson, who wrote the report, acknowledged more work needs to be done on this topic to uncover trends in anti-Asian harassment and practices in the news media’s coverage of race.
New report analyzes race of perpetrators in anti-Asian attacks – AsAmNews
Findings do not support popular misconceptions about the Asian and Black communitiesasamnews.com
This is a burden of proof reversal. Google is your friend and it still has nothig to do with White Supremacist murders and the reason as outlined in my post not to mention most crimes comitted by blacks are on other blacks;
Of course you're pro gun. Pro gun, with a BUT. Golly gee whiz does that mean you're a White Supremacists?The thread claimed there is no link between White Supremacy and mass shootings. Clearly there is. I demonstrated that there is. Not my problem that White Supremacists mass shootings tend to be terror attacks as well.
I'm pro gun.
Falling out of bed how funny. Yesterday morning about 4:00 AM my ass started sliding off the port side and I'm all assholes and elbows for the save, but it still felt like I stuck my finger in a light socket.So the domestic terrorist risk is actually quite small, with fewer victims over the last fifteen years than lightning strikes (434), bathtubs (6,742) or falling out of bed (12,780). To be frank, domestic terrorism is a very, very small risk to Americans, given that 4,565 died from choking on their own vomit in the last 15 years.
the left ignores lots of black on white crime as being racially motivated in order to shift the debate. the fact is, white "extremism" has resulted in a minuscule number of murders vs blacks killing blacks or blacks killing whites. the numbers don't lie. The ADL ignores black on black crime and black on white crimeNY Times David Leonhardt: Most Extremist Violence Comes From the Right
‘Numbers don’t lie’
Over the past decade, the Anti-Defamation League has counted about 450 U.S. murders committed by political extremists.
Of these 450 killings, right-wing extremists committed about 75 percent. Islamic extremists were responsible for about 20 percent, and left-wing extremists were responsible for 4 percent.
Nearly half of the murders were specifically tied to white supremacists:
Source: Anti-Defamation League
As this data shows, the American political right has a violence problem that has no equivalent on the left. And the 10 victims in Buffalo this past weekend are now part of this toll. “Right-wing extremist violence is our biggest threat,” Jonathan Greenblatt, the head of the ADL, has written. “The numbers don’t lie.”
The pattern extends to violence less severe than murder, like the Jan. 6 attack on Congress. It also extends to the language from some Republican politicians — including Donald Trump — and conservative media figures that treats violence as a legitimate form of political expression. A much larger number of Republican officials do not use this language but also do not denounce it or punish politicians who do use it; Kevin McCarthy, the top House Republican, is a leading example.
Here we go with the whaboutisms. Most black crime is on other blacks, is usually gang related and not random. You have to consider reasons also. They don't go around killing people simply because of the color of their skin.the left ignores lots of black on white crime as being racially motivated in order to shift the debate. the fact is, white "extremism" has resulted in a minuscule number of murders vs blacks killing blacks or blacks killing whites. the numbers don't lie. The ADL ignores black on black crime and black on white crime
1988 mayor of Chicago---Eugene Sawyer. He was a black Democrat.And there is no relationship to whites supporting gun confiscation either...except when it came to confiscating guns from black people.
1990 Virginia-Poor citizens singled out for gun ban in Virginia. U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia upheld a ban imposed by the Richmond Housing Authority on the possession of all firearms, whether operable or not, in public housing projects.
1988 Illinois- Poor citizens singled out for gun ban in Illinois. Starting in late 1988, the Chicago Housing Authority (CHA) and the Chicago Police Dept. (CPD) enacted and enforced an official policy, Operation Clean Sweep, which applied to all housing units owned and operated by the CHA.
1988 Maryland- Fifth "Saturday Night Special" economic handgun ban passes. Ban on "Saturday Night Specials," i.e. inexpensive handguns, passes.
1968 United States- Gun Control Act of 1968 passed. Avowed anti-gun journalist Robert Sherrill frankly admitted that the Gun Control Act of 1968 was "passed not to control guns but to control Blacks."
1941 Florida- Judge admits gun law passed to disarm black laborers. In concurring opinion narrowly construing a Florida gun control law passed in 1893, Justice Buford stated the 1893 law "was passed when there was a great influx of negro laborers in this State....The same condition existed when the Act was amended in 1901 and the Act was passed for the purpose of disarming the negro laborers....The statute was never intended to be applied to the white population and in practice has never been so applied...". Watson v. Stone, 148 Fla. 516, 524, 4 So.2d 700, 703 (1941) (GMU CR LJ, p. 69)
And how many white people were living in Chicago public housing impacted? Are you saying that public housing is an equal opportunity landlord?1988 mayor of Chicago---Eugene Sawyer. He was a black Democrat.
Hint: public housing bans aren't always about race and its disingenuous to try to make it such.