The Left Lies About Trump Lying...

[Captain Adverse]

I don't lie about anything.

Really? Never lie about anything?!?

That's a pretty bold statement making you a paragon of virtue almost unique among members of humanity. :roll:

Trump lies daily, and the majority of the stories with unnamed sources end up being later confirmed by the white house.

Hyperbole much? Please provide a comprehensive list of every single allegation made by "unnamed sources" denied by Trump delineating between still denied and those "later confirmation by the White House" so we can see this assertion is true.

How many times has Trump denied something vehemently and called it fake news just for it to come out a month later that it actually did happen.

More hyperbole. Again, please provide a complete list of such so we can see exactly how many times this has actually occurred in the past. BTW, for the sake of "honesty," how many news stories do you agree WERE fake news?

Why do you refuse to hold Trump accountable for his lies? You cherry pick some errors one news agency made while ignoring the torrent of lies from his own mouth. So far the media's record has been pretty good and they've been far more truthful than Trump.

Very few people "refuse to hold Trump accountable for his lies." I certainly hold him as accountable as I have any other politician.

The problem is discerning from the constant barrage of negative reporting which are actual lies (i.e. misinformation intentionally presented to deceive) and which are simple mistakes, misstatements, "fluffing," braggadocio, and yes even hyperbole like that which you have just presented as "truth."

 

[Kobie]

Stop it, you're making us conservatives look just as hypocritical as liberals.

That’s true, conservatives are not just as hypocritical as liberals.

They're a thousand times worse.

 

[What if...?]

While one might be able to argue from ignorance that the man isn't a confirmed racist, there are no good arguments against Trump being a liar, precisely because he has told literally hundreds of crystal clear objective lies, and journalists have documented evidence establishing those statements as lies.

He lied about his campaigns interactions with Russian nationals, he lied about the wall, he lied about releasing his tax returns, he lied about the payments to his mistresses, one could go on and on. It's also not just that he lies, but that he will tell bizzare and even sociopathic lies, such as his lying about donating to charities he's never given a dime to, or his lie about Time Magazine wanting to make him their person of the year.

Hell, the guy claimed just a couple of days ago that he had been talking to former presidents about the wall, but all of them have gone on record as saying they haven't talked to him, which proves beyond any reasonable doubt that he's lying about it to the public.

It really shouldn't need to be argued that this man lies compulsively and pathologically, given the frequency of the offenses, and how well documented they are, but apparently some people are so obsessed with hating "the establishment" they're willing to believe a clumsy reality TV bull****ter.

Hell, he had a whole table of lies in that press conference.

The "magazine" that was a brochure for a hotel.

"Trump water", just his label on water he purchased from somebody else.

"Trumps steaks", no longer sold, another label visible.

"Trump wine" whose website says trump hold no ownership.

NOTHING on that table was what he claimed it was.

 

[What if...?]

Now that's a good question.

There is so much to report on about Trump, yet the anti-Trump echo chamber constantly makes **** up. They constantly cite unnamed sources who tell them stuff that ends up getting denied and is ultimately found out to be false or just fades away from memory...until it's needed. Then it's resurrected and repeated as if it's fact and it's used to support some new made up nonsense.

So tell me...why do you need to lie and make things up?

To compete in the new post-truth America, of course.

 

[SMTA]

Do you think that the Left makes up any lies about Trump... trying to state that he lies, or is racist, etc.?

No proof?
No references?
Bait thread.

 

[Keridan]

Not to worry, the man is the consummate con-man the greatest in all of history. Fortunately he's never been able to fool all the people any of the time. I know he fools 30 to 38 percent of the people all the time … or does he? Did they really vote for him or just against Hillary? We may find out someday … may be not.

But to the point, why would anybody need to lie about trumps lies when he lies everyday at least 10 times a day? Anybody that thinks he doesn't is suffering from TDS (trump dream sickness) because you have to be dreaming to believe his horse****.

As I said in my first post, the man gives no shortage of material. But whether any is invented or blown out of proportion, the noise is constant. I remember getting so annoyed with ODS and how much it ruined good debate. It is worse with Trump because he gives so much basis and his detractors are at least as fervent, if not more.

I don't support the man, but there are times when I read stuff and looking into it at all shows it's blowing up some minor thing to score points. Kinda like you see with the freshman congresswoman. It's so dramatic that I end up questioning every time he is under fire. I know he's full of BS and a lousy president, but I can't just take the strikes at face value.

Most people aren't even as informed as I am and they hear the same noise.

 

[Airyaman]

No, we hold him accountable. It's just that most of us are still a little sore about watching the last jackass get away with about as much lying as anyone could feasibly voice through a presidential term, much less two.

Thanks for the laugh. :lamo

 

[Bodi]

At no point have any of you ever held Trump accountable for any of his lies, so you are being completely disingenuous. Second, by every objective standard Trump has outpaced all previous presidents in number of lies and magnitude.

I'll start taking you seriously when I see you critique Trump for lying instead of just excusing it.

Thanks for the laugh. :lamo

Absolutely !! Who wants a black, liberal dem, Kenyan, communist/socialist in the WH ?

If the poster hasn't noticed...trump lies right through his teeth everyday.

No, most of what is said about Trump is supported by what he tweets or spews out of a mouth that looks like a puckered asshole.

How about posting some of his lies?

 

[Bodi]

That’s true, conservatives are not just as hypocritical as liberals.

They're a thousand times worse.

Factless insults...

 

[Bodi]

No proof?
No references?
Bait thread.

Looking for people that think he lies to post some of his lies and prove them as such...

 

[Bodi]

While one might be able to argue from ignorance that the man isn't a confirmed racist, there are no good arguments against Trump being a liar, precisely because he has told literally hundreds of crystal clear objective lies, and journalists have documented evidence establishing those statements as lies.

He lied about his campaigns interactions with Russian nationals, he lied about the wall, he lied about releasing his tax returns, he lied about the payments to his mistresses, one could go on and on. It's also not just that he lies, but that he will tell bizzare and even sociopathic lies, such as his lying about donating to charities he's never given a dime to, or his lie about Time Magazine wanting to make him their person of the year.

Hell, the guy claimed just a couple of days ago that he had been talking to former presidents about the wall, but all of them have gone on record as saying they haven't talked to him, which proves beyond any reasonable doubt that he's lying about it to the public.

It really shouldn't need to be argued that this man lies compulsively and pathologically, given the frequency of the offenses, and how well documented they are, but apparently some people are so obsessed with hating "the establishment" they're willing to believe a clumsy reality TV bull****ter.

Thank you for your opinionated statement...

 

[SMTA]

Looking for people that think he lies to post some of his lies and prove them as such...

The moron Trump has less 6,420 times since inauguration.
This is more than you brought to the table.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...as-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

 

[Bodi]

The moron Trump has less 6,420 times since inauguration.
This is more than you brought to the table.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...as-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

You did not post any lies or prove them as such... consequently I win this debate.

Bodi 1 - You 0

Next?

 

[MTAtech]

No, we hold him accountable. It's just that most of us are still a little sore about watching the last jackass get away with about as much lying as anyone could feasibly voice through a presidential term, much less two.

Whenever the challenge is raised about Obama lying, two examples are used: "You can keep your doctor" and "it will save you $2,500." That's about it. In the meantime, the right gives Individual-1 a pass on about a dozen daily lies and spend their time twisting themselves into semantic pretzels trying to make the lie into a form of truth.

Lately, Trump claimed he didn't say that Mexico would write a check for the wall, after about a million times he said Mexico would pay for the wall.

 

[SMTA]

You did not post any lies or prove them as such... consequently I win this debate.

Bodi 1 - You 0

Next?

I was unaware of your inability to read.
You have shown nor proven nothing, as usual.
Just bait.

 

[Bodi]

I was unaware of your inability to read.
You have shown nor proven nothing, as usual.
Just bait.

You posted a random number of "less" with no evidence and one link... but in your post there were not any lies or proof of lies... :shrug:

I am sorry that it was this easy to defeat you... better luck next time?

 

[SMTA]

You posted a random number of "less" with no evidence and one link... but in your post there were not any lies or proof of lies... :shrug:

I am sorry that it was this easy to defeat you... better luck next time?

Morons who post about winning always are losers.

 

[Bodi]

Whenever the challenge is raised about Obama lying, two examples are used: "You can keep your doctor" and "it will save you $2,500." That's about it. In the meantime, the right gives Individual-1 a pass on about a dozen daily lies and spend their time twisting themselves into semantic pretzels trying to make the lie into a form of truth.

Lately, Trump claimed he didn't say that Mexico would write a check for the wall, after about a million times he said Mexico would pay for the wall.

How about this one then: “More young black men languish in prison than attend colleges and universities across America”

This is completely untrue...

 

[Bodi]

Morons who post about winning always are losers.

Nobody needs the excuses of the loser of a debate... it was clear for all to see that you made a feeble attempt and lost... :shrug:

 

[Praxas]

Do you think that the Left makes up any lies about Trump... trying to state that he lies, or is racist, etc.?

I'm sorry are you saying that Trump doesn't lie? Yes, he lies. His tweets show his lying. If you have specific examples, go right ahead but he does lie.

About him being racist or a white supremacist, there is a lot of subjective material out there that Trump has done which could be argued for or against. Some are valid, some are not. I don't think Trump is a White Supremacists but I think he has enabled white supremacy with his words. Trump in the past was in trouble for some apartment issues dealing with race that could be construed as racism.

Similar things were done to Obama. Many on the right said Obama hated cops and the increase of violence against cops was due to Obama. Now Obama doesn't hate cops, but it could be argued he enabled violence against cops with his words. Some on the right said Obama (at the time of being president) was a Muslim. That was incorrect.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Stop it, you're making us conservatives look just as hypocritical as liberals.

He's not a conservative. He's a liberal being facetious.

 

[trixare4kids]

Do you think that the Left makes up any lies about Trump... trying to state that he lies, or is racist, etc.?

Some leftists make a sport out of it.
Look at this forum as proof for the above.

 

[SMTA]

Nobody needs the excuses of the loser of a debate... it was clear for all to see that you made a feeble attempt and lost... :shrug:

Alcohol has dulled your posting ability.

 

[Bodi]

I'm sorry are you saying that Trump doesn't lie? Yes, he lies. His tweets show his lying. If you have specific examples, go right ahead but he does lie.

About him being racist or a white supremacist, there is a lot of subjective material out there that Trump has done which could be argued for or against. Some are valid, some are not. I don't think Trump is a White Supremacists but I think he has enabled white supremacy with his words. Trump in the past was in trouble for some apartment issues dealing with race that could be construed as racism.

Similar things were done to Obama. Many on the right said Obama hated cops and the increase of violence against cops was due to Obama. Now Obama doesn't hate cops, but it could be argued he enabled violence against cops with his words. Some on the right said Obama (at the time of being president) was a Muslim. That was incorrect.

Probably the best post of this thread...

 

[Bodi]

Alcohol has dulled your posting ability.

I guess that means the I am just a regular genius now... But Still the WINNER!