So instead of using actual argument all you can do is use appeal to emotion.
How is that an appeal to emotion? I'm quite certain that no one in human history has consistently butchered the application of logical fallacies as much as you do, ludin. And when I point these out, you don't even slow down. It is truly entertaining to see you make such a complete fool of yerself. Please do keep it up.
>>people making money for liberals is a bad thing because then they are no longer dependent on government. in fact the less people that are dependent on government for help the more the liberal ideology loses it's power
More of yer mindless gibberish. Completely unsupported nonsense.
>>I don't care how much money they have.
Who suggested that you do? MR started this thread to say they're hypocrites, so apparently he does.
>> it has no affect on me my wife or what I make. the fact that you think it does shows that you need to do more studying on how economics actually works.
Again with utter nonsense, as always. When did I say that the Clinton's income affects you? You don't understand how income inequality affects the economy, and I have no doubt that studying won't help you to understand anything.
>>all high taxes do is stop middle income and lower income people from moving up in wealth.
Just more unsupported garbage. Taxes on upper-income households have been reduced dramatically over the past thirty-five years compared to 1946-1979, the era when the lower and middle classes did a lot better. Once again, the facts directly contradict yer RW rubbish.
>>rhetoric is rhetoric no matter how much she repeats herself.
How is that rhetoric? Those are nothing but explicit legislative proposals. Keep posting, ludin. I can't think of a better way for the policies I oppose to be undermined.
>>then she would actually propose real tax code reform not anti-wealth except for me reform.
It is actual reform. And what's this "not for me" drivel? I'll say this — yer posts make MR look like a relative genius.
>>I will believe it when she does it.
She's been doing it. Yer inability to hear her may result from the location of yer head.
>>so why isn't she paying her fair share now?
Because the tax code doesn't require it.
>>you can't create jobs and raise incomes by taxing wealth. it does the direct opposite.
You can't fund the public sector without taxes. In recent decades, fat cats have been raking in the dough at everyone else's expense while their taxes have been reduced dramatically. In recent years, Obummer got taxes raised on upper-income households, and the result has been more than fourteen million full-time, private jobs being created. Wrong again. Yer
always wrong.
A perfect reverse barometer for discerning the truth.
>>we already fund these programs.
Not enough.
>>giving them more money has done little to help the situation.
Poverty cut in half.
>>people actually have to want to do it.
So you figure they don't want better educations and better jobs.
>>we know that rhetoric is all that you have in all of your arguments.
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>>The bottom 50% of workers paid 2.8% of the income tax.
FIT is not the only tax collected in this country. The bottom three quintiles paid fourteen percent of federal taxes last year, while collecting twenty-one percent of national income. The top quintile paid 69% of federal taxes, while collecting 51% of national income.
>>of those 50% the bottom 40% either paid 0 in taxes or got back more than what they paid in.
The bottom two quintiles paid four percent of federal taxes while collecting eleven percent of national income.
Overall, the top quintile paid 32% of its income in taxes and the bottom four paid an average of 25%.
>>I don't know where you are getting your numbers but they are horribly wrong
CBO.
>>Why can you not actually address what was said.
I did. MR misrepresented when he said talked about people "paying millions in taxes," and he lied, just like you always do, when he said that "43% pay zero."
envy is not a good argument and I wish liberals would just admit that is all this is.
Ascribing envy to liberals is an argument that only works with RW toads. All this RW crap helps drive moderates and Independents to vote for Democrats. Keep spewing it.