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The House voted to end the decades-long agreement for California to set higher emission standards

Volunteer said:
Approx 10-15kW per day for my EV, depending on distance. Saves me over $150/mo. It is easy with rooftop solar.
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And what percentage of homes have enough solar and the battery capacity to do that?
 
Volunteer said:
What percentage of homes manufacture their own gasoline? Fewer than solar by millions.
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And that will always be true, but the point is the electric grid is not ready to replace all the energy we get from gasoline.
For California alone, it would be like 245 GWh extra per day!
 
longview said:
the electric grid is not ready to replace all the energy we get from gasoline.
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Our atmosphere is not ready for the pollution from replacing six million U.S. electric vehicles with gasoline powered ones. How many more deaths?
 
BTW, the California regulation allows for hybrid vehicles.
 
Volunteer said:
What percentage of homes manufacture their own gasoline? Fewer than solar by millions.
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To put this in perspective California would need 4 additional Diablo Canyon style power plants, or 1000 times their wind and solar capacity to just replace the energy they get from gasoline!
 
Volunteer said:
Our atmosphere is not ready for the pollution from replacing six million U.S. electric vehicles with gasoline powered ones. How many more deaths?
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No deaths are attributed to modern gasoline vehicle emissions, the study was about fine particulate matter. Also the power plants that change this battery electric cars are not emission free!
 
j brown's body said:
Indeed, the post you are responding to is a response to that assertion.
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Advanced Clean Cars II | California Air Resources Board

Latest Update - Amendments to Advanced Clean Cars II In October 2023, staff launched a new effort to consider potential amendments to the Advanced Clean Cars II regulations, including updates to the tailpipe greenhouse gas emission standard and limited revisions to the Low-emission Vehicle and...
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California is Taking Your Ride to Zero Emissions​

By 2035 all new passenger cars, trucks and SUVs sold in California will be zero emissions.
 
longview said:
No deaths are attributed to modern gasoline vehicle emissions, the study was about fine particulate matter.
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Scientists and doctors say that emissions from burning gasoline contribute to the deaths of millions of people due to soot, ash, sulfates, unburned fuel and lube oil in the exhaust that we breathe.
 
Volunteer said:
Scientists and doctors say that emissions from burning gasoline contribute to the deaths of millions of people due to soot, ash, sulfates, unburned fuel and lube oil in the exhaust that we breathe.
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Correct, added CO2 and any predicted warming played no role in!
 
Craig234 said:
Proof?
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California Gasoline Data, Facts, and Statistics
In 2024, 13.4 billion gallons of gasoline were sold, according to the California Department of Tax and Fee Administration.
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Each gallon of gasoline contains 33 kWh of energy, an IC engine can extract about 20% of that energy or about
6.6 kWh. 13.4 X10 ^9 gallons times 6.6kWh per gallon, is 88,440,000,000 kWh per year.
The annual amount divided by 365 is the daily energy supplied by gasoline in California.
242,301,369.86 kWh, or 242,301 MWh, or 242 GWh per day.
The Diablo Canyon Power Plant has a total capacity of 2.2 gigawatts (GW), with each of its two units generating 1.1 GW.
2.2 Gigawatts is 52.8 GWh per day, so they would need 4 additional Diablo Canyon size power plants to replace the
energy in the 2024 gasoline usage.
 
Craig234 said:
That doesn't address how much electricity can be increased?
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No, it just demonstrates how much capacity would need to be added to replace the energy they get out of gasoline, with electricity from the grid. Weather they can carry the extra amount is a secondary question, they first have to have the generation capacity.
 
longview said:
No, it just demonstrates how much capacity would need to be added to replace the energy they get out of gasoline, with electricity from the grid. Weather they can carry the extra amount is a secondary question, they first have to have the generation capacity.
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Yes, I'm asking for evidence it can't be built.
 
longview said:
California Gasoline Data, Facts, and Statistics

Each gallon of gasoline contains 33 kWh of energy, an IC engine can extract about 20% of that energy or about
6.6 kWh. 13.4 X10 ^9 gallons times 6.6kWh per gallon, is 88,440,000,000 kWh per year.
The annual amount divided by 365 is the daily energy supplied by gasoline in California.
242,301,369.86 kWh, or 242,301 MWh, or 242 GWh per day.
The Diablo Canyon Power Plant has a total capacity of 2.2 gigawatts (GW), with each of its two units generating 1.1 GW.
2.2 Gigawatts is 52.8 GWh per day, so they would need 4 additional Diablo Canyon size power plants to replace the
energy in the 2024 gasoline usage.
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Make it five when you account for the power loss through transmission.
 
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