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The Homosexual Child Molestation Epidemic

Navy Pride said:
I am saying that gay Pedophiles prefer to molest little boys.........Without being to graphic it is the equipment that little boys have that attracts gays, where as straight pedophiles would prefer to molest little girls...
But, as defined by the APAs, pedophilia is a different sexuality than hetero-/homo-. As such, pedophiles who go after children of the same or opposite sex may not be attracted to the same or opposite sex adults that would follow. They are not cogent parts. As such, a male pedophile going after girls does not mean that the pedophile is straight and vice versa.
 
Oh, I get it, the APA, which has been infiltrated by homosexuals so they could get homosexuality removed from the lsit of mental disorders, can now engage in linguistic redefining of the English langauge! The same APA that has removed pedophilia from their list of sexual perversiosn a tth erequest of the homosexuals within the board. Really shows what they are up to....

When a male adult has sex with a male child, by definition, he is engaging in pedophilia, AND homosexuality, and thus homosexual pedophilia....now Shuamort, I l know you have self identified as a homosexual in these forums, so it would come as no suprise how you are covering for homosexual pedophiles by making laughable claims that these males having sex with males are not engagng in homosexuality. Try a little bit of full disclosure!

Main Entry: 1ho·mo·sex·u·al
Pronunciation: "hO-m&-'sek-sh(&-)w&l, -'sek-sh&l
Function: adjective
1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
2 : of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

One entry found for pedophilia.
Main Entry: pe·do·phil·ia
Pronunciation: "pE-d&-'fi-lE-&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object
- pe·do·phil·i·ac /-'fi-lE-"ak/ or pe·do·phil·ic

More in a long list of studies showing homosexuals are overrepresented as child molesters:

A study on pedophilia in the Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa reported: “According to the literature, findings of a two-to-one ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles have been documented.”
John M. W. Bradford, et al., “The Heterogeneity/Homogeneity of Pedophilia,” Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa 13 (1988): 225. Elsewhere the study notes: “Researchers have variously estimated the incidence of homosexual pedophilia between 19 percent and 33 percent of reported molestations,” p. 218.

The Journal of Sex Research reports a study that included “199 offenders against female children and 96 offenders against male children. . . . This would indicate a proportional prevalence of 32 percent of homosexual offenders against children.”
Freund, “Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality,” p. 197.

A study of male child sex offenders in Child Abuse and Neglect found that fourteen percent targeted only males, and a further 28 percent chose males as well as females as victims, thus indicating that 42 percent of male pedophiles engaged in homosexual molestation.
Michele Elliott, “Child Sexual Abuse Prevention: What Offenders Tell Us,” Child Abuse and Neglect 19 (1995): 581.

The stark imbalance between homosexual and heterosexual child molestations was confirmed in the Archives of Sexual Behavior study itself, which divided 260 pedophile participants into three groups: “152 heterosexual pedophiles (men with offenses or self-reported attractions involving girls only), 43 bisexual pedophiles (boys and girls), and 65 homosexual pedophiles (boys only).” In other words, 25 percent of the offenders were homosexual pedophiles—or 41 percent if those who molest girls as well as boys are included.

in 1990, the Journal of Homosexuality produced a special double issue devoted to adult-child sex, which was entitled "Male Intergenerational Intimacy" (1). One article said many pedophiles believe they are "born that way and cannot change" (p. 133). Another writer said a man who counseled troubled teenage boys could achieve "miracles... not by preaching to them, but by sleeping with them." The loving pedophile can offer a "companionship, security and protection" which neither peers nor parents can provide (p. l62). Parents should look upon the pedophile who loves their son "not as a rival or competitor, not as a thief of their property, but as a partner in the boy's upbringing, someone to be welcomed into their home..." (p. 164).

A British university professor wrote: "Boys want sex with men, boys seduce adult men, the experience is very common and much enjoyed" (p. 323). A professor of social science at the State University of New York says he looks forward to the day when Americans will "get over their hysteria about child abuse" (p. 325) and child pornography.

Even more studies:

1. The Journal of Homosexuality, "Male Intergenerational Intimacy: Historical, Socio-Psychological, and Legal Perspectives," vol. 20, Nos. 1&2, 1990. This back issue can be ordered by calling 1-800-HAWORTH.

2. Rind, Bruce, Tromovitch, Philip, and Bauserman, Robert. (Temple U. Dept. of Psychology, Phila., PA)., A Meta-analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples. Psychological Bulletin, 1998 (July), vol. 124 (1), 22-53.

3. Pedophilia Not Always a Disorder? NARTH Bulletin, April 1995, page 1.

4. Satinover, Jeffrey (1996). Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books. P. 43.

5. Hooker, Evelyn, The Adjustment of the Male Overt Homosexual, Journal of Projective Techniques, 1957, 21, 1831.

6. Interview: John Money. PAIDIKA: The Journal of Paedophilia, Spring 1991, vol. 2, no. 3, p. 5.

7. Satinover, Jeffrey (1996). Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, p. 63.

8. Freund, K. and R. I. Watson, The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (Spring 1992): 3443.

9. K. Freund et al., Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (Fall 1984): 197.

10. Freund, K. and R. I. Watson, The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (Spring 1992): 3443.

11. Schmidt, Thomas (1995). Straight and Narrow? Compassion and Clarity in the Homosexuality Debate. Downers Grove, Ill.: Intervarsity Press, p. 114.

12. Byrd, A. Dean. Integrating Treatment of Unwanted Male Homosexual Attractions: Clinical Interventions. Paper presented at the NARTH Annual Conference, October 23, 1998, Los Angeles, Ca.

13. Dickson, Gregory, An Empirical Study of the MotherSon Dyad in Relation to the Development of Adult Male Homosexuality: An Object Relations Perspective, doctoral dissertation available through UMI, 300North Zeeb Road, Ann Arbor, MI 48106-1346.

14. Siegel, J., Sorenson, S., Golding, J., Burnam, J., Stein, J., The prevalence of childhood sexual assault: the Los Angeles epidemiological catchment area project. American Journal of Epidemiology 126,6:1141.

15. Dickson, Gregory, An Empirical Study of the MotherSon Dyad in Relation to the Development of Adult Male Homosexuality: An Object Relations Perspective, 1998.

16. "Be Yourself: Questions and Answers for Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual Youth," published by Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, 1101 14th Street, N.W., Suite 1030, Washington, DC 20005.

17. "Action Group Forms in Seattle," by Eleanor Durham, Parents and Teachers for Responsible Schools, P.O. Box 28519, Seattle, Washington 98118-8519, from the NARTH Bulletin, April 1998, p. 11.

18. Van den Aardweg, Gerard, (The Netherlands), private correspondence to NARTH, October 26, 1998.

19. Finkelhor, David, et al (1986). A Sourcebook on Child Sexual Abuse. Newbury Park, CA: Sage Publications.

20. Beitchman, J., Zucker, K., Hood, J., DaCosta, G., Akman, D. (1991) A Review of the Short-Term Effects of Child Sexual Abuse. Child Abuse and Neglect 15:537-556.

21. Rekers, George (1995). Handbook of Child and Adolescent Sexual Problems. N.Y.: Lexington Books, p. 158.

22. Doll, L., Joy, D., Bartholow, B., Harrison, J., Bolan, G., Douglas, J., Saltzman, L., Moss, P., Delgado, W. (1992), Self-reported childhood and adolescent sexual abuse among adult homosexual and bisexual men. Child Abuse and Neglect 16:825-864.

23. Engel, B. (1982) The Right to Innocence. Los Angeles, CA: Jeremy P. Tarcher, p. 193.

24. Finkelhor, David, "Response to Bauserman," Journal of Homosexuality, vol. 20, Nos. 1&2, 1990, pp. 314-315.
 
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shuamort said:
But, as defined by the APAs, pedophilia is a different sexuality than hetero-/homo-. As such, pedophiles who go after children of the same or opposite sex may not be attracted to the same or opposite sex adults that would follow. They are not cogent parts. As such, a male pedophile going after girls does not mean that the pedophile is straight and vice versa.

If you look at documented cases such as the priest abuse of boys you will find that the huge majority of the priests admitted in testimony that they were gay........

Both gay and straight pedophiles are equally abnormal and disgusting......
 
shuamort said:
But, as defined by the APAs, pedophilia is a different sexuality than hetero-/homo-. As such, pedophiles who go after children of the same or opposite sex may not be attracted to the same or opposite sex adults that would follow. They are not cogent parts. As such, a male pedophile going after girls does not mean that the pedophile is straight and vice versa.

All too true, most pedophiles don't even regard their "victims" as having one or the other sexual genitalia. It's their youth and androgyny which attracts the pedophile. Not the sexual organs.

While searching for one thing, I ran across a study:
Gene G. Abel, M.D. is a physician, psychiatrist, and a scientist. The National Institute of Mental Health has awarded him funding for six long-term studies to investigate sexual violence against women and children and to design new ways to stop it.

Nora Harlow founded a day care center in New York City and taught there while getting a graduate degree from Columbia University. She has published two books, one on childcare, Sharing the Children, and one on sexuality, Lover to Lover. She is the former editor of two publications for physicians, Sexual Medicine Today, and Frontiers of Psychiatry.

Within this study, near the end, there is this section:

ADULT SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS OF MEN WHO MOLEST BOYS

While it is a commonly held belief that men who prefer men as adult sex partners molest boys and men who prefer women as adult sex partners molest girls, our study results suggest something different. (Note: Only 7 percent of child molesters show no sexual interest in adults.)

Alfred E. Kinsey, in his landmark study of male sexuality, divided adult sexual interest into seven categories: three categories of homosexuality, one category of bi-sexuality, and three categories of heterosexuality. The Abel and Harlow study used this "Kinsey Scale" in its questions about adult sexual preference.

The 1,038 men who molested boys reported a range of adult sexual preferences. Contrary to popular belief, only 8 percent reported that they were exclusively homosexual in their adult preferences. The majority of the men who molested boys (51 percent) described themselves as exclusively heterosexual in their adult partner preferences. An additional 19 percent reported they were predominately heterosexual, while yet another 9 percent said they were equally heterosexual and homosexual in their adult sex life. As with other characteristics, the group of 1,038 men who molest boys followed the general pattern of the U.S. male population in regard to their adult sexual preferences. As reported by Kinsey, the majority of U.S. adult males (76 percent) described themselves as exclusively heterosexual and an additional 9 percent said they were predominantly heterosexual. In terms of their homosexuality, Kinsey reports that those U.S. males who describe themselves as exclusively homosexual are 6 percent and those that report being predominantly homosexual an additional 4 percent. These findings are in direct opposition to the generally accepted opinion that the overwhelming majority of men who molest boys are homosexual. The majority of men who molest boys (70 percent) are predominantly heterosexual. In general, that large number parallels the number of men in the U.S. population (85 percent) who have reported that they are predominantly heterosexual.

This study is actually fairly recent, in as far as the world of psychology goes:
Excerpted from The Stop Child Molestation Book, by Gene G. Abel, M.D., and Nora Harlow (Xlibris 2001) (Study text revised April 2002)

I urge you to go ahead and read this study. You will notice that it doesn't say anything different than what I have been saying all along:

THE ABEL AND HARLOW CHILD MOLESTATION PREVENTION STUDY
 
Navy Pride said:
If you look at documented cases such as the priest abuse of boys you will find that the huge majority of the priests admitted in testimony that they were gay........

Both gay and straight pedophiles are equally abnormal and disgusting......

True that pedophilia is abnormal and is a terrible crime on our society, I still suggest that because these are priests we're talking about, they had no prior sexual contact with adult partners and therefore make a terrible case study.
 
Kinsey, himself an extreme sexual pervert and pedophile has been so discredited by his peers that to even quote him is a joke.Talk about the fox guarding the henhouse.....
 
All too true, most pedophiles don't even regard their "victims" as having one or the other sexual genitalia. It's their youth and androgyny which attracts the pedophile. Not the sexual organs.

Yeah, right, that is why childrens nude pictures are the most popular on the internet.............
 
Navy Pride just totally jacked you homosexual pedophile apologists up......
 
Navy Pride said:
Yeah, right, that is why childrens nude pictures are the most popular on the internet.............

I am not disagreeing, but is there any evidence to backup that claim?
 
vauge said:
I am not disagreeing, but is there any evidence to backup that claim?

Well the majority of the priests who were prosecuted admitted they were gay and just have never acted on their tendencies until molesting the young boys...

My response was actually for Justine though.......
 
Vauge, yes, there is lots of evidence, just check out the newsgroups and research your evidence or you can always pick up a homosexual oriented publication.
 
Navy Pride said:
Yeah, right, that is why childrens nude pictures are the most popular on the internet.............
Cite?
Navy Pride said:
Well the majority of the priests who were prosecuted admitted they were gay and just have never acted on their tendencies until molesting the young boys...
Cite?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
-Carl Sagan
 
Those aren't extraordinary, they are common knowlege, with your technique being to endlessly bog down opposition....
 
shuamort said:
Cite?
Cite?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
-Carl Sagan

I have read this claim somewhere, other than from VoR, but it's just not convincing enough to me. Most of these men had no prior adult sexual contacts and simply aren't sophisticated in terms of understanding sexuality to know the difference.

Here's yet another article protesting the Homosexuality/Pedophilia connection:
Homosexuality and pedophilia: The false link
By Joe Kort, MSW
Originally published in "In the Family" magazine, Fall 2003


I thought I would publish this here on this site as I know that those involved in the ex-gay movements often believe that homosexuals are pedophiles. In my research I found useful arguments for those who wish to speak up and teach the truth to those who misunderstand.

Q: I've heard therapists say that a male adult who sexually abuses a boy isn't necessarily ‘homosexual.' This seems confusing: If he isn't homosexual, then why would he sexually molest boys, instead of girls?

This is a very good question, and there are several ways to respond to it. First, we need to clarify our definitions. When discussing sexual abuse and molestation of children, there's often conflict over terminology. One frequently quoted researchers on the topic of homosexuality and child molestation, Gregory Herek, a research psychologist at the University of California, defines pedophilia as "a psychosexual disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners, which may or may not be acted upon." (http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow and http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow//html/facts_molestation.html) He defines child sexual abuse as "actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent." Not all pedophiles actually molest children, he points out. A pedophile may be attracted to children, but never actually engage in sexual contact with them. Quite often, pedophiles never develop a sexual orientation toward other adults.

Homosexuality and Pedophilia : The false link
 
Joe Korts the Homosexual!

Joe Korts posted text did nothing to dispel the reality that male homosexuals disproportionately are more likely to be child molesters! Justine the self identified homosexual posted a link which goes to just a bunch of yahoo directories...

Additionally, why not engage in a little bit of full disclosure about Joe Kort-the HOMOSEXUAL

Right from his homosexual website: "Gay Therapist Joe Kort, MAMSW, is a psychotherapist in private practice in RoyalOak specializing in individual, group and couples therapy, gay and lesbian..."

"Now an adjunct professor teaching Gay and Lesbian Studies at Wayne State University's School of Social Work, he is doing more writing and workshops on a national level."

"New! Joe is now writing a column for GayToday."

Some quotes from HOMOSEXUAL JOE KORTS:

"In fact, I found several of the boys in my class much more alluring than any girl."

"...but I finally admitted to him that, yes, I guessed I might possibly be a “homosexual”

This guy is a class A pervert, and he even admits that he had girlfriends while he was engaging in secret homosexual encounters...like a common practice of self-identified homosexual males, they secretly occassionally have sex with women and put these women at risk of receving a death sentence without their consent.
 
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It sounds to me like you are defending pedophiles; if you are not you should clarify yourself!!
 
Androvski said:
HDS,LIB,whatever you call yourself now.We should ALL avoid qualifying your bigoted taunts with a response!
Someone with that much disrespect for any minority group,obviously has serious issues of their own.
Are you insecure with your own sexuality?this level of homophobia is often indicative of that.
Society's attitude to wards gays which have allowed them free reign, gay rights parades etc. are partially responsible for the increase in pedophilia both of which are unnatural and should be illegal.
 
Androvski said:
HDS,LIB,whatever you call yourself now.We should ALL avoid qualifying your bigoted taunts with a response!
Someone with that much disrespect for any minority group,obviously has serious issues of their own.
Are you insecure with your own sexuality?this level of homophobia is often indicative of that.
Society's attitude to wards gays which have allowed them free reign, gay rights parades etc. are partially responsible for the increase in pedophilia both of which are unnatural and should be illegal.
 
phate17 said:
It sounds to me like you are defending pedophiles; if you are not you should clarify yourself!!

Well, well ,well. A fine how do you do. Especially from someone who is supposedly new to these boards.

Why should I feel obligated to clarify myself to you? Do I owe you a special explaination over the rest of the members here?

I suggest if you truly are "new" to these boards to try reading through the entire thread before you make such personal attacks.
My position is clear enough for those who have been following, as I suspect you have been for some time.
 
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