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Over the last few weeks, I have had several interactions with people who really have no concept of the history of computers, and think that everything that we have today is what we have always had. And they really have no concept how "new" all of what many of us use on a daily basis (including forums like this) simply did not exist a decade or so ago.....
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Insofar as this forum was created a decade or more ago, it strains credulity for you to assert such a thing.
Over the last few weeks, I have had several interactions with people who really have no concept of the history of computers, and think that everything that we have today is what we have always had. And they really have no concept how "new" all of what many of us use on a daily basis (including forums like this) simply did not exist a decade or so ago.
To try and put it in perspective, I am using my own life to give an idea how fast things have evolved. I am 54 years old, and really grew up with computers. And in a way that most others my age really did not.
My first exposure to computers actually dates way back to 1970. The year before my mom's hobby shop closed, and she returned to her previous occupation, accounting. She got a job at the Olga lingerie company, at the same time that they were converting to computerized accounting. Realizing this was the wave of the future, she started to take night classes in computer programming, and was one of Olga's first programmers by 1970. I remember that she would take me in to work on weekends where I would fool around with the keypunch machines as she was banging away at code.
I even remember arcades before 1972. Yes, they did exist, but they were generally composed of only 2 types of games. ...
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This was the way of things even into the late 1970's. By this time the first "Microcomputers" like the PET, Apple II, and TRS-80 were finally making their way into some homes. But at roughly 1 month's salary to buy one, only the rich or computer fanatics bought them at that time period. By that time my mom had become a System Analyst for a major construction company, so when she would work weekends I was now playing around on a terminal myself. Using UNIX I would explore around the network, dissecting code to figure out how programs worked.
By 1980 I was taking computer classes myself, learning COBOL and now typing my own programs on keypunch cards. But it did not take me long to realize that although I was good at programming, it did not have the interest that the computer itself had. But at this time, programmers and users did not really have access to the actual computer. It was locked away in that fishbowl, the realm of Electronic Engineers. They were the ones that actually touched the device, we only talked to it remotely. And as I grew more and more frustrated with programming I finally made the decision to leave computers and join the military in 1982. And even though my test scores were high I made the choice to pick a career as far from computers as I could, the Infantry.
Yes. And other forums existed in similar ways even before that.
But how many users were in here a decade ago? A decade ago, you would still have had more people using services like AOL Instant Messenger than forums like this.
You are making the very mistake that inspired me to start this thread. You see things how they are now, and just assume things were always this way. 10 years ago these kinds of multi-thread forums were still radically new. Most of them are almost unrecognizable today, and what we have now would amaze us back then.
~ I am 54 years old, and really grew up with computers. And in a way that most others my age really did not ~
Over the last few weeks, I have had several interactions with people who really have no concept of the history of computers, and think that everything that we have today is what we have always had. And they really have no concept how "new" all of what many of us use on a daily basis (including forums like this) simply did not exist a decade or so ago.
It's so that computers have evolved over the past ~70 years, but the thesis that, prior to recent years, computers were tools abetting little but games is pure poppycock.
I'm a year older. I remember being offered the chance to study a new subject at school called "computer science" but my father banned me from doing this qualification.
"waste of time" he said, "nobody will ever earn a living working with computers" he said....
He was never very good with financial predictions and suchlike.
I'm just over a decade older that you and I watched this evolution of computers, that you describe, occur. I started with the VIC-20 and quickly switched to the C-64. There are a couple things you didn't mention that, while not part of your history...which I take to be focused on "consumer" use of computers...are highly related:
1. The "minicomputer".
These computers existed in that space between the "mainframe" computers that were used by large corporations, universities and the government (IBM 360, for example) and "micro-computers" that were used by consumers (C-64, etc). The "PC" eventually killed off the minicomputer.
2. Computer magazines.
Lordy!! If I had the money I spent on magazines back, I could be rich today. LOL!! And I'll never forget the hours I spent typing pages of code from those magazines into my C-64...just to play a game. Mis-type one character...and spend hours trying to find the error. But that was how I learned what made my machine tick, new things it could do and where the future was going. The internet killed off the magazines.
Obviously no true power users here. UNIX was King throughout it all, with its variants from AIX to SGI and the MacOSX, all with some levels of compatibility. My Solaris workstation is still faster than any of the new machines, not as powerful as the latest chipsets, but faster, and for those not in the know, a cheat since I use now use custom SGI chipsets which are more powerful in the same fiber ware box as a lock down family server. LINUX is not UNIX. More than half the servers on the net have LINUX backbones.
in my lifetime, i've gone from learning Basic on a TRS80 to carrying a device the size of my high school calculator which can access an archive of human knowledge which is the modern day equivalent of the Library of Alexandria. this is definitely a fascinating time to be alive.
Most home computer users did not start to try and network their computers until after Windows 95 came with that capability built in.
… they really have no concept how "new" all of what many of us use on a daily basis (including forums like this) simply did not exist a decade or so ago.
Users of the MacPlus and later Macs used AppleTalk over their home phone systems, the spare wire, to network in the home for an LAN as far back as 1987. I had three at home, so I could keep an eye on what the kids were doing on theirs, as my wife worked on her own. I had picked up a precursor to AppleRemote off one of the local BB's, which allowed me to both view what the kids were doing, and control their machine. I'd drive them nuts by making homework assignments temporarily disappear.I'd blame it on the dog. As well, all three machines were connected via the LAN to an NEC laser printer by early 1988. We allowed the kids 30 minutes a day each on Compuserve's kid section, for homework and games. They couldn't understand why their friends didn't have computers at home, or why there were none in school, yet.
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