The height of hypocrisy (1 Viewer)

[Navy Pride]

It vould only happen in the Democratic Party.......They cry about corruption and then reelect William Jefferson, the biggest crook in Congress...

That is the height of hyprocrisy.......

 

[tecoyah]

It vould only happen in the Democratic Party.......They cry about corruption and then reelect William Jefferson, the biggest crook in Congress...

That is the height of hyprocrisy.......

I was going to make a long post addressing the corruption of the party you support. Complete with lists of the many actual scandals we have had to deal with......but I fail to see the point....they all suck when it comes down to it.


Go ahead and throw another stone at the Glass House you live in NP.

 

[Mikkel]

It vould only happen in the Democratic Party.......They cry about corruption and then reelect William Jefferson, the biggest crook in Congress...

That is the height of hyprocrisy.......

If anything, the Democrats ARE keeping Jefferson in check:

Dems keep Jefferson off Ways and Means - Politics - MSNBC.com

His district (LA-02) elected Jefferson, not the Democratic Party. If you really wanted to make a case here you'd attack the meager 60,000 people who remained to vote post-Katrina to reelect him, but then you'd just look like a jerk.

 

[Skip]

Dems reelected one Congressman who hasn't been convicted of anything, and then still stripped him of his committe...

The GOP... nah, won't go there. If you don't know this by now you never will.

 

[Navy Pride]

I was going to make a long post addressing the corruption of the party you support. Complete with lists of the many actual scandals we have had to deal with......but I fail to see the point....they all suck when it comes down to it.


Go ahead and throw another stone at the Glass House you live in NP.

The difference is when Republicans get caught with there hands in the cookie jar they resign.......Democrats get reelected........

 

[Navy Pride]

Democrats reelected one Congressman who hasn't been convicted of anything, and then still stripped him of his committe...

The GOP... nah, won't go there. If you don't know this by now you never will.

They found 90 grand in his frigging freezer, give me a break.......

 

[Mikkel]

The difference is when Republicans get caught with there hands in the cookie jar they resign.......Democrats get reelected........

You obviously don't understand the influence of incumbency in Congress. In 1992, Joseph McDade (R) (PA-10) was indicted on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, and accepting bribes. He stayed in congress until 1999 when he finally retired. During his indictment his constituents showed overwhelming support for their congressman.

This phenomenon is not unique to one party, and anyone with any sense of political history would know that. Again, if you really want to blame somebody, blame the remaining Katrina victims who reelected him. See what kind of response you get then.

 

[Navy Pride]

You obviously don't understand the influence of incumbency in Congress. In 1992, Joseph McDade (R) (PA-10) was indicted on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, and accepting bribes. He stayed in congress until 1999 when he finally retired. During his indictment his constituents showed overwhelming support for their congressman.

This phenomenon is not unique to one party, and anyone with any sense of political history would know that. Again, if you really want to blame somebody, blame the remaining Katrina victims who reelected him. See what kind of response you get then.

Never heard of him.....did they find 90 grand in his freezer? do you have a link on what he was charged and convicted of?

 

[dragonslayer]

Come on, do you really need to make more pointless inuendos. do we really need to get into this. Good lord the neoCons are the most corrupt group in national history. The elections are over, and we all know that eventually many of the NeoCons will end up in prison.

If we reinstated the old Nuremburg war crimes trials, Bush, Saddam, and their whole crowd would qualify for hanging. lol

 

[Mikkel]

Never heard of him.....did they find 90 grand in his freezer? do you have a link on what he was charged and convicted of?

They did not find 90 grand in his freezer, but he was accused of accepting 100 grand in bribes.

McDade Denies Taking Bribes - New York Times

Unfortunately, the article where I got the original information is in the NY Times archives so you'd have to pay to see it:

Indictment of Congressman Means Little at Home - Free Preview - The New York Times

McDade was eventually able to beat the indictment charges.

 

[Navy Pride]

They did not find 90 grand in his freezer, but he was accused of accepting 100 grand in bribes.

McDade Denies Taking Bribes - New York Times

Unfortunately, the article where I got the original information is in the NY Times archives so you'd have to pay to see it:

Indictment of Congressman Means Little at Home - Free Preview - The New York Times

McDade was eventually able to beat the indictment charges.

Well your the only one in the world who does not know they found $93,000.00 hidden in his freezer so if you did not know that I see no reason to carry this further.......

 

[Skip]

Well your the only one in the world who does not know they found $93,000.00 hidden in his freezer so if you did not know that I see no reason to carry this further.......

He was talking about McDade, not Jefferson...

 

[Stinger]

If anything, the Democrats ARE keeping Jefferson in check:

Ah so THAT's the Democrat plan to fight crime we've all been waiting for...............elect them to high office.

His district (LA-02) elected Jefferson, not the Democratic Party. If you really wanted to make a case here you'd attack the meager 60,000 people who remained to vote post-Katrina to reelect him, but then you'd just look like a jerk.

Then why is it always stated that the Republicans elect David Duke and he was only running for a local office not a national one?

Suggest you review the title of thread again.

 

[ModerateDem]

It vould only happen in the Democratic Party.......They cry about corruption and then reelect William Jefferson, the biggest crook in Congress...

That is the height of hyprocrisy.......

Big deal. We are all Human and we make mistakes, some are larger than others. Are you insinuating that the Republican party is perfect? Mark Foley, cough* cough*, for example. the point is there are always bad apples in Both parties and we have to live with it. In the world of Politics people have only the choice of the lesser of two evils. apparently the people have spoken and they thought the Democrats were the lesser of two evils this time around. In the next 12 years, if the democrats maintain power, the Republicans will come up with something to cry about and start the whole vicious cycle over again.

 

[ModerateDem]

Ah so THAT's the Democrat plan to fight crime we've all been waiting for...............elect them to high office.

Would you prefer the Republican plan: watch the crime happen, turn a blind eye to it and never mention it to anyone while letting them keep their office. this si a fallacy of composition. while some Democrats of his area did vote for him. The whole party did not vote for him.

Then why is it always stated that the Republicans elect David Duke and he was only running for a local office not a national one?

Suggest you review the title of thread again.

Honestly, as a Democrat, I never believed that. Mainly because I recognize the fallacy of their thinking. Some Republicans may have supported him, in the local area. That does not mean that every Republican on every level supported him. I know a few, very few since most are Democrats, Jewish Republicans who would not be caught dead supporting him. If you get my drift.

 

[Stinger]

Would you prefer the Republican plan: watch the crime happen, turn a blind eye to it and never mention it to anyone while letting them keep their office. this si a fallacy of composition. while some Democrats of his area did vote for him. The whole party did not vote for him.

Nope whenever Reps find out about such things they get rid of them, Dems celebrate them and defend them.

Honestly, as a Democrat, I never believed that.

Well your party sure does since it's leaders certainly tried to make that case and many here have and other political boards I have participated in sure did.

Hince the title of the thread.

Mainly because I recognize the fallacy of their thinking. Some Republicans may have supported him, in the local area.

Actually it was the same voters who supported Democrat Blanco. But the Dems ignored that fact.

 

[tecoyah]

Nope whenever Republicans find out about such things they get rid of them, Democrats celebrate them and defend them.

Surely....you Jest. For ANYONE to claim integrity might be found in the GOP, they must be blinded by party affiliation. You really need to change this statement to the following:

"whenever the Public Finds Out about such things the republican party gets rid of them, Democrats do the same damn thing, they just dont need to do it as often, Yet."



Well your party sure does since it's leaders certainly tried to make that case and many here have and other political boards I have participated in sure did.

I'm just glad I'm not affiliated with EITHER party....you guys suck.

Hince the title of the thread.



Actually it was the same voters who supported Democrat Blanco. But the Democrats ignored that fact.

Hows that Glass House Holding up....shattered any walls yet?

 

[ModerateDem]

Nope whenever Republicans find out about such things they get rid of them, Democrats celebrate them and defend them.

Then why did Mark Foley stay in office well beyond the time of everyone finding out?

here's a hypothetical Question: "If a friend of yours or even a friendly colleage were accused of stealing from people would you defend them when you thought they were innocent?"

the point is since Republicans like to be all "Hush, Hush!" about this as to make their party look perfect. It actually makes them look even that more scandelous because they are trying to keep it quiet. While the Democrats take the bull by the horn, head on, and try to defend their colleage for whom they have the ideal of innocent until proven guilty.

Well your party sure does since it's leaders certainly tried to make that case and many here have and other political boards I have participated in sure did.

Seems to me that they did not use Logical processes to realize the fallacy of that thinking. Of course name one instance where Politics actually does. It is comparable to the conservative idea that Democrats are baby-killers and or Abortion supporters. Not only is that inaccurate it is a fallacy in the highest degree in logical processes similar to the one given that all Republicans are Racists and they support David Duke. Total and utter nonsense.

Actually it was the same voters who supported Democrat Blanco. But the Democrats ignored that fact.

Just as the republican party ignored the fact that Republicans in the area were supporting David Duke. The door in this case, actually in every case, swings both ways. Im sure If I dig a little I can find a very similar instance occuring in the Republican party I just have no time to do it.

 

[PoliticalActivist]

Geeez NavyPride, do you ever stop blabbering your Republician nonsenses? Every post that I have read of your since I have joined DPF is always about party bashing. Talk about what the pie face Bushs have done within the past
18 years, and the only person that stopped the Bushs was Bill Clinton when he got elected. You post your propagenda bull, and think everyone is support to dance to your music....well you got that wrong. Oh Damn Stinger You and NavyPride political party friends. I personnaly think you have losted your mind when you posted....Whenever Republicans find out about such things they get rid of them.... Well why they haven't removed Bush yet? My mind thinks like a spider I love to get Republicians caught up in my web.

 

[Navy Pride]

Geeez NavyPride, do you ever stop blabbering your Republician nonsenses? Every post that I have read of your since I have joined DPF is always about party bashing. Talk about what the pie face Bushs have done within the past
18 years, and the only person that stopped the Bushs was Bill Clinton when he got elected. You post your propagenda bull, and think everyone is support to dance to your music....well you got that wrong. Oh Damn Stinger You and NavyPride political party friends. I personnaly think you have losted your mind when you posted....Whenever Republicans find out about such things they get rid of them.... Well why they haven't removed Bush yet? My mind thinks like a spider I love to get Republicians caught up in my web.

You are new here so I will try and give you some slack my liberal friend........Instead of personally attacking me how about just addressing the subject of the thread.........That is how it works in a debate here in DP.......Thanks.....

 

[Stinger]

Then why did Mark Foley stay in office well beyond the time of everyone finding out?

He didn't after the sexually explicit instant messages were discovered did he. You know this. And the final report clearly says there was nothing for them to take actino on. Now if you believe we should be monitoring the emails of all Gay congressmen then lets hear your proposal. Else what is it they should have done about what? If there was anything in the previous emails that was salacious then post it and explain why the Democrats didn't demand he be removed they had copies. Oh I forgot even if they were Dems don't care and allow their own to serve and even celebrate them even when they actually had sex with under age pages.

here's a hypothetical Question:

I don't need hypotheticals, we a have reality to deal with. So why didn't the Dems demand action taken when they had the emails and why did they lie about having them?

the point is since Republicans like to be all "Hush, Hush!" about this as to make their party look perfect.

Again a fallacious statement, when the instant messages became known they rid themselves of him and never defended him. How do you reconcile that with the fact the Dems do nothing about their own, where do they get the standing to complain about Foley?

It actually makes them look even that more scandelous because they are trying to keep it quiet.

What on earth are you talking about Foley is gone, he is disgraced, he will never serve again as a Republican. Can you say the same of Dems caught in such scandals?

While the Democrats take the bull by the horn, head on, and try to defend their colleage for whom they have the ideal of innocent until proven guilty.

Studds? Clinton? Who are you talking about?

Just as the republican party ignored the fact that Republicans in the area were supporting David Duke.

Yes they totally ignored David Duke and gave him no support, and his home Parrish, who actually voted him into and office also voted overwhelmingly Democrat for Blanco.

 

[Nexus]

Height of hypocrisy or Louisiana politics?

• Huey Long
• David Duke
• Jimmy Davis
• Earl Long
• Edwin Edwards
• Ray Nagin

 

[jujuman13]

Undoubtedly Louisiana is the most politically corrupt State in the US, with New Orleans being the murder Capital of the US.
Wherever you see any State or indeed Nation that suffers deeply from poverty you also tend to find the greatest number of Churches, the most corrupted Police Forces.
Such behaviour is quite consistent with poverty.