"the greatest threat to Western civilization today is not Russia" - DJT stated yesterday

[lwf]

I am sure you have a reason but then my question would be why weren't things you wanted done under Biden with total control of the Congress? Seems the only thing you want to complain about is the GOP and Trump.

I'm only saying that the Trump administration did indeed make life worse for most of the people who voted for him. About the only ones who came out ahead were the super rich.

 

[Surrealistik]

The sentence bolded below I agree with. However, the greatest threat is the Trump Party but that's not what DJT was aiming for. His aim is directed at the actual patriotic citizens and government office holders who are pure USofA that's bolded in red below along with his sights still set on being a wannabe dictator - a dictator like a Putin dictator. Both Russia and China are positioning themselves between the 2nd and 3rd spots as next in line with being threats to our Western civilization. This is the 2024 Trump political platform that's currently backed by the T-GOP.

He's half right; realistically, it's the Chinese Communist Party that is the single greatest long term threat to Western civilization as we presently know it.

 

[Conservative]

I'm only saying that the Trump administration did indeed make life worse for most of the people who voted for him. About the only ones who came out ahead were the super rich.

Really? You are going to have to explain that one to me because 74 million Americans disagree with you. All I see from you are liberal talking points, class envy and jealousy without thinking about what you are posting. Every taxpayer got a tax cut and more spendable income as withholding tables were reduced. How do people not benefit from that? Not sure where you get your information but you don't have a lot of credibility on this one.

Now let's get to the real reason the left hates Trump. You radicals live in high taxation states where you were deducting those high state and local taxes from your federal return. I didn't have those high deductions so people making my income living in high taxed states were less in FIT than me. Pure liberal selfishness and what hypocrites. The left claims tax cuts reduce gov't revenue when the reality is when you deducted your high state and local taxes from your federal return you paid less in FIT affecting that revenue

 

[lwf]

Really? You are going to have to explain that one to me because 74 million Americans disagree with you. All I see from you are liberal talking points, class envy and jealousy without thinking about what you are posting. Every taxpayer got a tax cut and more spendable income as withholding tables were reduced. How do people not benefit from that? Not sure where you get your information but you don't have a lot of credibility on this one.

Now let's get to the real reason the left hates Trump. You radicals live in high taxation states where you were deducting those high state and local taxes from your federal return. I didn't have those high deductions so people making my income living in high taxed states were less in FIT than me. Pure liberal selfishness and what hypocrites. The left claims tax cuts reduce gov't revenue when the reality is when you deducted your high state and local taxes from your federal return you paid less in FIT affecting that revenue

I don't pay state tax.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Yes he is, to liberalism, China, BLM, and other leftwing terrorists. Better pay attention to what is really happening and how you you helped put into the WH. Trump isn't the problem, your liberal ideology is

 

[Conservative]

I don't pay state tax.

Then you got a FIT withholding cut thus more spendable income

 

[Conservative]

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Really? that is Republicans? where did you get that information? Do you know that states control that issue and states are democracies? It is truly stunning how poorly educated the left is on state and local responsibility and authority. The left claims they want a democracy but when the vote isn't in their favor they bash that democracy. You don't like what your state is doing, change it or move!!

 

[lwf]

Then you got a FIT withholding cut thus more spendable income

How much tax I pay to the government is near the bottom of the issues I care about when I vote. What the government does with those taxes is far more interesting to me. And I approve of my taxes being used to help the less fortunate within reason. I also approve of them being used to keep the government running, to keep our foreign relationships with other democracies healthy, and to keep our military modernized and well-prepared to defend my country from any and all threats.

 

[Conservative]

How much tax I pay to the government is near the bottom of the issues I care about when I vote. What the government does with those taxes is far more interesting to me. And I approve of my taxes being used to help the less fortunate within reason. I also approve of them being used to keep the government running, to keep our foreign relationships with other democracies healthy, and to keep our military modernized and well-prepared to defend my country from any and all threats.

Then stop lying about the Trump tax cuts, you got a tax cut thus more spendable income. you don't like spending your own money send it back to the IRS.

Your taxes being used is what the left wants to hear, they use your taxes to fund their administrative expenses and send it where they see fit, not where you deem necessary. The true role of the federal govt is to PROVIDE for the common defense. If it isn't in the Constitution it is a state issue and that means abortions, wages, unions, environmental, infrastructure.

 

[mrjurrs]

The sentence bolded below I agree with. However, the greatest threat is the Trump Party but that's not what DJT was aiming for. His aim is directed at the actual patriotic citizens and government office holders who are pure USofA that's bolded in red below along with his sights still set on being a wannabe dictator - a dictator like a Putin dictator. Both Russia and China are positioning themselves between the 2nd and 3rd spots as next in line with being threats to our Western civilization. This is the 2024 Trump political platform that's currently backed by the T-GOP.

Trump says 'USA-hating people' bigger threat than Russia to U.S.

Donald Trump said in a video posted Thursday that Russia wasn't the biggest threat to the U.S., but rather some of the country's own citizens, as he went on a screed about battling the 'establishment.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

'But the greatest threat to Western civilization today is not Russia, it's probably more than anything else ourselves and some of the horrible, USA-hating people that represent us,' Trump said.

Trump, who announced his ambitions to be president again in November, laid out in a three and a half minute video that he believed the Russia-Ukraine conflict needed to be ended 'immediately' in order to stop 'World War III.'


He didn't specify what peace would look like, though pushed that the 'entire globalist neocon establishment' needed to be dismantled, the State Department, 'defense bureaucracy' and intelligence services needed to be cleared out and NATO's role needed to be reexplored.

He's already said what peace will look like, Russia would control Crimea and the Eastern provinces of Ukraine. Apparently his America First idea stretches back to the America where our signature on a treaty meant less than nothing...
"From 1778 to 1871, the United States government entered into more than 500 treaties with the Native American tribes; all of these treaties have since been violated in some way or outright broken by the U.S. government, with Native Americans and First Nations peoples still fighting for their treaty rights in federal courts and the United Nations."

List of United States treaties - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Conservative]

He's already said what peace will look like, Russia would control Crimea and the Eastern provinces of Ukraine. Apparently his America First idea stretches back to the America where our signature on a treaty meant less than nothing...
"From 1778 to 1871, the United States government entered into more than 500 treaties with the Native American tribes; all of these treaties have since been violated in some way or outright broken by the U.S. government, with Native Americans and First Nations peoples still fighting for their treaty rights in federal courts and the United Nations."

List of United States treaties - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

My suggestion to the left is to take a civics lesson and find who creates and enforces treaties. You people put a lot of emphasis on rhetoric with no emphasis at all on results. You might want to crack a history book and see how the Roman empire destroyed itself and see what the left is doing to this country. Further the left might want to check our own history and realize there was no Ukraine invasion under Trump and China was under control

 

[lwf]

Then stop lying about the Trump tax cuts, you got a tax cut thus more spendable income. you don't like spending your own money send it back to the IRS.

Your taxes being used is what the left wants to hear, they use your taxes to fund their administrative expenses and send it where they see fit, not where you deem necessary. The true role of the federal govt is to PROVIDE for the common defense. If it isn't in the Constitution it is a state issue and that means abortions, wages, unions, environmental, infrastructure.

The federal government can provide nothing without taxes.

 

[Nickyjo]

When you can point to the policies and results to support your claims then you will have some credibility. Not going to continue this bs with you as you focus on rhetoric and personality not policies and results. Words matter to you and that doesn't give you a lot of credibility.

Excuse me if I didn’t mention it, but after lying about refugee processing, Trump’s policy resulted in admission of the fewest refugees by far in the history of the program, dating back to 1980 when it was set up. He also, in line with his demonizing of asylum seekers, suggested not allowing them access to an asylum process at all, tho to be fair, I assume he was dissuaded by his staff as that would have been a flagrant violation of the law. I believe his policies across the board on immigration were far more restrictive than previous ones. He ended the diversity lottery, which changes in the mid 1960s and afterwards, the latter one through bipartisan legislation signed by Bush One, ended the Northern Europe immigration biases in our laws. (Funny, as a kid of 15 I went to see JFK campaign in my all Italian Brooklyn neighborhood. He mentioned the existing bias in the law, which Nixon had supported.)

His anti-environmental rhetoric - climate change was a hoax invented by the Chinese - resulted in a policy that prohibited the mention of the phrase “climate change” by the Energy Department. Among his first policies was to allow the use of a pesticide that causes birth defects, one withdrawn for study under the Obama administration. According to the NYTimes, he rolled back or reversed over 100 environmental rules, though the courts reinstated some. He tried to get rid of the Endangered Species Act, but a court case stopped that.

Hope the above helps. A lot of what Trump talked about was just waving his dick around, like telling cops to not be gentle with suspects, by definition innocent legally, suggesting he would do torture worse than water boarding and suggesting that we “take out the families of terrorists,” a war crime for which we prosecuted Germans when they engaged in collective punishments in retaliation for assassinations by resistance forces during WWII. Then he did pardon people convicted of or charged with war crimes by our own military, and reportedly questioned why our military waited for a terrorist to leave his family before killing him with a drone attack. So his odious rhetoric was often matched by policy.

 

[Conservative]

The federal government can provide nothing without taxes.

Yes so why don't you look at the revenue collected by the federal gov't from FIT and CIT, then compare that to what FIT And CIT fund, was there a deficit or surplus?

U.S. Federal Budget Breakdown

The FY 2022 federal budget proposal was over $6 trillion, with an estimated revenue of about $4.2 trillion, creating a deficit worth about $1.9 trillion.

www.thebalancemoney.com

you are going to see that FIT and CIT fund the DISCRETIONARY BUDGET. Payroll taxes fund the mandatory budget, where is the shortfall?

 

[Conservative]

Excuse me if I didn’t mention it, but after lying about refugee processing, Trump’s policy resulted in admission of the fewest refugees by far in the history of the program, dating back to 1980 when it was set up. He also, in line with his demonizing of asylum seekers, suggested not allowing them access to an asylum process at all, tho to be fair, I assume he was dissuaded by his staff as that would have been a flagrant violation of the law. I believe his policies across the board on immigration were far more restrictive than previous ones. He ended the diversity lottery, which changes in the mid 1960s and afterwards, the latter one through bipartisan legislation signed by Bush One, ended the Northern Europe immigration biases in our laws. (Funny, as a kid of 15 I went to see JFK campaign in my all Italian Brooklyn neighborhood. He mentioned the existing bias in the law, which Nixon had supported.)

Now of course the pandemic had nothing to do with that did it? This is a waste of time, you live in a screwed up disastrous state with a lot of social problems, solve those before raising the issue on a national basis

His anti-environmental rhetoric - climate change was a hoax invented by the Chinese - resulted in a policy that prohibited the mention of the phrase “climate change” by the Energy Department. Among his first policies was to allow the use of a pesticide that causes birth defects, one withdrawn for study under the Obama administration. According to the NYTimes, he rolled back or reversed over 100 environmental rules, though the courts reinstated some. He tried to get rid of the Endangered Species Act, but a court case stopped that.

Your state leads the nation in pollution and states control the licenses of businesses in the state, See how long your electric cars are going to run without coal powered plants.

Hope the above helps. A lot of what Trump talked about was just waving his dick around, like telling cops to not be gentle with suspects, by definition innocent legally, suggesting he would do torture worse than water boarding and suggesting that we “take out the families of terrorists,” a war crime for which we prosecuted Germans when they engaged in collective punishments in retaliation for assassinations by resistance forces during WWII. Then he did pardon people convicted of or charged with war crimes by our own military, and reportedly questioned why our military waited for a terrorist to leave his family before killing him with a drone attack. So his odious rhetoric was often matched by policy.

No, the above shows economic and civics ignorance, you have no clue what your state and local government does or what taxes you pay or their purpose. Your hatred of Trump diverts from the disaster in your own state which you cannot solve therefore you have to blame someone else, Trump is an easy target.

 

[Conservative]

Excuse me if I didn’t mention it, but after lying about refugee processing, Trump’s policy resulted in admission of the fewest refugees by far in the history of the program, dating back to 1980 when it was set up. He also, in line with his demonizing of asylum seekers, suggested not allowing them access to an asylum process at all, tho to be fair, I assume he was dissuaded by his staff as that would have been a flagrant violation of the law. I believe his policies across the board on immigration were far more restrictive than previous ones. He ended the diversity lottery, which changes in the mid 1960s and afterwards, the latter one through bipartisan legislation signed by Bush One, ended the Northern Europe immigration biases in our laws. (Funny, as a kid of 15 I went to see JFK campaign in my all Italian Brooklyn neighborhood. He mentioned the existing bias in the law, which Nixon had supported.)

Are you being paid to promote this leftwing BS regarding immigration? Pre Pandemic numbers then the pandemic occurred.

Legal Immigration to the United States, 1820-Present

The United States attracts the largest number of immigrants in the world, who join the fabric of U.S. society through avenues such as citizenship, becoming legal permanent residents (LPRs), or by seeking humanitarian protection. This chart tracks the number of people who annually are granted...

www.migrationpolicy.org

 

[ouch]

Trump never said the United States of America as there are a lot of good people in this country, most on the left don't qualify as good Americans

Yes, those horrible Lefty Americans assaulted the Capitol on 1/6/21. By the way, DJT did say USA.

 

[Grand Mal]

Frustrating isn't it that Trump forced your country to pay more to NATO thus less to those socialist programs the left needs to survive

You don't know what you're talking about.
Never stopped you before though.

 

[Grand Mal]

I prefer Trump's policies and results to anything the left has done, it is results that matter not rhetoric or personality. Do you always buy what someone else tells you? When you interview someone do you buy what they say or check their background and results?

Trump is an immoral fraudulent con man.

 

[Nickyjo]

Neighbor helping neighbor, accepting personal responsibility and not having someone else pay for it or blaming someone else for personal poor choices. Being patriotic, pledge of allegiance, holding self responsible and not someone else for mistakes. Pride and acceptance of American values and attention to the Constitution showing that the purpose of the Federal gov't is to PROVIDE for the common defense, NOT provide for your personal welfare

As opposed to the “promote the general welfare,” the phrase in the Constitution. Face it, we have moved beyond the notions you mentioned, oh, probably since Roosevelt. That’s Teddy, not Franklin.

Btw, was Trump speaking from Wheeling, WV? Did he give a number of the communists in the State Dept.? If not , it was still a pretty good imitation of Joe McCarthy.

 

[Conservative]

Yes, those horrible Lefty Americans assaulted the Capitol on 1/6/21. By the way, DJT did say USA.

Didn't see Trump there

 

[Conservative]

You don't know what you're talking about.
Never stopped you before though.

How many times do I have to post proof of that? Absolutely stunning your loyalty out of ignorance

'Trump is having an impact': NATO head credits president's tough talk for $100B boost

Jens Stoltenberg, the NATO secretary general, said Trump is helping the alliance adapt to "a more unpredictable world."

www.usatoday.com

 

[Conservative]

Trump is an immoral fraudulent con man.

You don't have any credibility thus dismissed. You have no standing in this country

 

[Conservative]

As opposed to the “promote the general welfare,” the phrase in the Constitution. Face it, we have moved beyond the notions you mentioned, oh, probably since Roosevelt. That’s Teddy, not Franklin.

Promoting is quite different than providing, suggest you learn the difference

Btw, was Trump speaking from Wheeling, WV? Did he give a number of the communists in the State Dept.? If not , it was still a pretty good imitation of Joe McCarthy.

Are you ever going to admit being wrong?

 

[Grand Mal]

You don't have any credibility thus dismissed. You have no standing in this country

Which term doesn't apply to Trump? Immoral, fraudulent, or con man? They've all been proven.
I have just as much standing in your country as you. More, maybe.