The government further regulating sex. (1 Viewer)

[shuamort]

This is a real peach.

Department of Health & Human Services
Administration for Children and Families

Abstinence curricula must have a clear definition of sexual abstinence which must be consistent with the following: "Abstinence means voluntarily choosing not to engage in sexual activity until marriage. Sexual activity refers to any type of genital contact or sexual stimulation between two persons including, but not limited to, sexual intercourse."


For purposes of this program, the term "abstinence education" means an educational or motivational program that -

(D) teaches that a mutually faithful monogamous relationship in the context of marriage is the expected standard of human sexual activity;

(E) teaches that sexual activity outside of the context of marriage is likely to have harmful psychological and physical effects;

Expected standard? Harmful psychological effects?


OK, so on top of that. Homosexuals shouldn't be touching each other since:

Throughout the entire curriculum, the term "marriage" must be defined as "only a legal union between one man and one woman as a husband and wife, and the word 'spouse' refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife."

 

[Kelzie]

Hello teen pregnancy. :roll:

 

[ngdawg]

Did I fall asleep and go back to 1915??? WTF?

I'm all for teaching abstinence as a true alternative to any sexual activity, but what right does the government and its representative organizations have to tell kids what the confines of marriage is, when there shouldn't even BE any??? There's a scientific basis for that?

/me shakes her head and looks for the 'contact us' button on that site.

 

[jfuh]

So this is sex ed huh? Yep, perhaps women should start to wear lockets around thier
:yt


These so called moral wholesome images need to be scraped. It's pathetic really. What kids should be taught is a healthy image of sexuality not that it's bad.

Fact. Utah and Ohio, probably the two most conservative states in the US have the highest dl bandwidth of pornography from the internet then any other state.

 

[jimmyjack]

Hello teen pregnancy. :roll:

Goodbye AIDS.

 

[Kelzie]

Goodbye AIDS.

Hardly. You think teenagers will listen? At least now they know to wear condoms.

 

[mikhail]

I'll take the abstinence out any girls pants.

 

[FallingPianos]

Expected standard? Harmful psychological effects?

thats what you get when you mix politics with psychology

 

[wackestmc]

Well, it's yet again another religious agenda being instituted through our education system. After all, where are all the kiddies going to learn to be upright, heterosexual, God fearing Americans anyways? Church? Nah.

 

[Kandahar]

Goodbye AIDS.

Right, because abstinence-only sex education has done wonders to reduce AIDS in Africa... :roll:

Teaching people only about abstinence does not reduce the amount of sex that they have, it just reduces the amount of safe sex that they have.

 

[JustineCredible]

Goodbye AIDS.

Actaully HELLO more AIDS and HIV infections. What this teaches is a screwed up idea that any sex other than {man/woman} within the context of marriage isn't really sex. Therefore more teens trying anal and oral sex! And since these abstenence "classes" also DO NOT teach about condoms, more UNPROTECTED sex!

Anyone who thinks this will HELP our children or protect them in anyway is a fool!

 

[mixedmedia]

Anyone who thinks this foolishness will work, has obviously lost all consciousness of their own adolescence. :roll:

pfft.....this is why I talk to my kids about sex myself.

 

[jfuh]

Actaully HELLO more AIDS and HIV infections. What this teaches is a screwed up idea that any sex other than {man/woman} within the context of marriage isn't really sex. Therefore more teens trying anal and oral sex! And since these abstenence "classes" also DO NOT teach about condoms, more UNPROTECTED sex!

Anyone who thinks this will HELP our children or protect them in anyway is a fool!

Also hello syphallius, gonarrhea, clamedia, herpes and a plethora of other transmittable diseases that result from ignorance.

 

[wackestmc]

Whatever happened to your old man taking you out fishing and explaining the birds and the bees? Or your mother getting out an anatomy book and explaining everything to you?

I don't think public education has any place teaching young, developing minds about sex; they can hardly handle history or science. I beleive education on drugs, sex, violence, and basic ethics to belong to the parent and the parent only. The school has no right to be telling a child what religion, sexuality, political affiliation, or other beleifs it should have. The developing morals of young children belongs to the parents, I say.

 

[Kelzie]

Whatever happened to your old man taking you out fishing and explaining the birds and the bees? Or your mother getting out an anatomy book and explaining everything to you?

I don't think public education has any place teaching young, developing minds about sex; they can hardly handle history or science. I beleive education on drugs, sex, violence, and basic ethics to belong to the parent and the parent only. The school has no right to be telling a child what religion, sexuality, political affiliation, or other beleifs it should have. The developing morals of young children belongs to the parents, I say.

Reproduction is not a belief. It is a science, and as such it belongs to the school. Parents are still more than welcome to tell their kids whether they should wait till they're married or not.

 

[Kandahar]

I don't think public education has any place teaching young, developing minds about sex; they can hardly handle history or science.

I for one think that teaching students how to prevent pregnancies and STDs is every bit as important as teaching students about the Roman Empire, if not moreso.

I beleive education on drugs, sex, violence, and basic ethics to belong to the parent and the parent only.

That's a nice idea, but the reality is that most parents are either too lazy or too stupid to teach their kids about those things.

The school has no right to be telling a child what religion, sexuality, political affiliation, or other beleifs it should have. The developing morals of young children belongs to the parents, I say.

Teaching people how to avoid pregnancies and STDs is not a belief or a moral value. It's just common sense.

 

[Lizai]

Whatever happened to your old man taking you out fishing and explaining the birds and the bees? Or your mother getting out an anatomy book and explaining everything to you?

I don't think public education has any place teaching young, developing minds about sex; they can hardly handle history or science. I beleive education on drugs, sex, violence, and basic ethics to belong to the parent and the parent only. The school has no right to be telling a child what religion, sexuality, political affiliation, or other beleifs it should have. The developing morals of young children belongs to the parents, I say.

Sex education has nothing to do with religion or political affiliation, and sexuality is just a preference the kid has, much akin to liking strawberry ice cream better than chocolate or vice versa. Anyway, someone's gotta do it, and the parents don't always step up. My mom taught me about my period, but really nothing other than that. As for my dad? Pfft! As if!

I love my parents, but the simple fact is that they neglected this area of my education. I learned about sexually transmitted diseases from health class in middle school (and I don't remember most of that), and about condoms, birth pills, and anal and oral sex from everyone else. I've heard a few rumors that I'm not sure what to make of, and only time will tell if I'll learn about it in health class my senior year.

I think it's really silly that people keep hoping that preaching abstinence and only abstinence will work on even most teenagers. I mean, I myself have never had sex, but I know plenty of people who most definitely have -- heck, I probably know more of them than I realize.

but I'm supposed to be doing something productive right now, like homework or practicing my voice stuff, so bye bye!

 

[wackestmc]

I wasn't talking about reproductive basics. Antomy and safety is a science, and I agree, we should teach that. However, I'm talking about the ethical values. I don't want schools pushing their agendas on my child. They can say anatomy and objective basics all day; but they're shoving morals down kids' throats.

 

[Kelzie]

I wasn't talking about reproductive basics. Antomy and safety is a science, and I agree, we should teach that. However, I'm talking about the ethical values. I don't want schools pushing their agendas on my child. They can say anatomy and objective basics all day; but they're shoving morals down kids' throats.

What morals? There is not a single school out there telling the kids they should have sex. They're teaching them the facts and either letting them make their own decisions or letting their parents imprint their will on them.

 

[FallingPianos]

What morals? There is not a single school out there telling the kids they should have sex.

but there are a lot of schools out there telling them that they shouldn't.

 

[Kelzie]

but there are a lot of schools out there telling them that they shouldn't.

Which I think is wrong. But I have a feeling that wasn't what wackestmc had a problem with.

 

[wackestmc]

By telling them that sex is something meant for heterosexuals, something meant for marriage, telling them what marriage should mean to them, that's what I'm talkng about.

Graphs, condoms, body parts whatever; that's fine. I'm talking about when they tell the children when they should have sex and with who. What if my kid is gay? What if he has a differant idea of what sex and marriage mean than the school does? The school's still going to try and tell my child what a normal American should do and that's not up to them.

Let me reiterate one more time so people can actually understand what I mean;

If a sex education class wants to tell my child what the organs are, how they work, how pregnancy and diseases work, and how to prevent them; AWESOME! Of course I'd want that knowledge available.

If a sex education class wants to tell my child what is right and wrong when it comes to their ethical, and their moral choices about using responsible sex, I have a problem. Again, I'm saying that when sex reaches a moral pretense in education, there's too many people defining others' lives and slashing other lifestyles down.

 

[Kelzie]

By telling them that sex is something meant for heterosexuals, something meant for marriage, telling them what marriage should mean to them, that's what I'm talkng about.

Graphs, condoms, body parts whatever; that's fine. I'm talking about when they tell the children when they should have sex and with who. What if my kid is gay? What if he has a differant idea of what sex and marriage mean than the school does? The school's still going to try and tell my child what a normal American should do and that's not up to them.

Let me reiterate one more time so people can actually understand what I mean;

If a sex education class wants to tell my child what the organs are, how they work, how pregnancy and diseases work, and how to prevent them; AWESOME! Of course I'd want that knowledge available.

If a sex education class wants to tell my child what is right and wrong when it comes to their ethical, and their moral choices about using responsible sex, I have a problem. Again, I'm saying that when sex reaches a moral pretense in education, there's too many people defining others' lives and slashing other lifestyles down.

:lol: Seriously? That's lovely. I had you completely pegged wrong. I completely agree with what you're saying.

 

[wackestmc]

Hahaha, yeah, the initial explanation was slightly poor, glad to get some clarity out there.:2razz:

 

[FallingPianos]

But I have a feeling that wasn't what wackestmc had a problem with.

:lol: Seriously? That's lovely. I had you completely pegged wrong. I completely agree with what you're saying.

tolja so. :laughat: