The government finally connects the line from Trump’s campaign to Russian intelligence

[jpn]

On Thursday, the Treasury Department unveiled new sanctions against the Russian government linked to its apparent hack of U.S. government networks. But the news release also included a statement clearly answering our second question above.​

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“During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kilimnik provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy. Additionally, Kilimnik sought to promote the narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the statement read.​

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“Kilimnik has also sought to assist designated former President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. At Yanukovych’s direction, Kilimnik sought to institute a plan that would return Yanukovych to power in Ukraine,” it read.​

Yanukovych was a member of the pro-Russian party for which Manafort had worked, the Party of Regions.​

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That one sentence, though, appears to finally complete the long-speculated line from Trump’s campaign to Russian intelligence. It goes like this, according to the aggregated information compiled by various parts of the government:​

• Trump hires
• Manafort to run his campaign. Manafort then orders
• Gates, his deputy, to provide polling and strategy information to
• Kilimnik, their longtime colleague and, according to the Senate committee, a Russian intelligence officer. Kilimnik then shares that information with
• Russian intelligence agents.

Collusion, definition: "An often secret action taken by two or more parties to achieve an illegal or improper purpose."

 

[Mycroft]

On Thursday, the Treasury Department unveiled new sanctions against the Russian government linked to its apparent hack of U.S. government networks. But the news release also included a statement clearly answering our second question above.​

​

“During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kilimnik provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy. Additionally, Kilimnik sought to promote the narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the statement read.​

​

“Kilimnik has also sought to assist designated former President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. At Yanukovych’s direction, Kilimnik sought to institute a plan that would return Yanukovych to power in Ukraine,” it read.​

Yanukovych was a member of the pro-Russian party for which Manafort had worked, the Party of Regions.​

​

That one sentence, though, appears to finally complete the long-speculated line from Trump’s campaign to Russian intelligence. It goes like this, according to the aggregated information compiled by various parts of the government:​

• Trump hires
• Manafort to run his campaign. Manafort then orders
• Gates, his deputy, to provide polling and strategy information to
• Kilimnik, their longtime colleague and, according to the Senate committee, a Russian intelligence officer. Kilimnik then shares that information with
• Russian intelligence agents.

Collusion, definition: "An often secret action taken by two or more parties to achieve an illegal or improper purpose."

Sorry, but three middlemen between Trump and Russian intelligence agents...each with their own decision-making powers...means that there is no connection between Trump and Russian intelligence agents.

You are going to have to do better than this kind of spin, speculation, innuendo and hyperbole.

btw, who died and made some Senate committee god?

 

[SheWolf]

Sorry, but three middlemen between Trump and Russian intelligence agents...each with their own decision-making powers...means that there is no connection between Trump and Russian intelligence agents.

You are going to have to do better than this kind of spin, speculation, innuendo and hyperbole.

btw, who died and made some Senate committee god?

It clearly ties his campaign to Russian intelligence.

 

[Mycroft]

It clearly ties his campaign to Russian intelligence.

No. It doesn't.

Hell, that's like saying someone six degrees away from Kevin Bacon has direct ties to the guy. A ridiculous notion.

 

[SheWolf]

No. It doesn't.

Hell, that's like saying someone six degrees away from Kevin Bacon has direct ties to the guy. A ridiculous notion.

Manafort worked for Trump's campaign.

 

[Mycroft]

Manafort worked for Trump's campaign.

So what?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Sorry, but three middlemen between Trump and Russian intelligence agents...each with their own decision-making powers...means that there is no connection between Trump and Russian intelligence agents.

 

[switt]

So what?

Trumpism lives. You know that this info was kept secret under Trump. I'm happy to see us standing up for ourselves again.

 

[calamity]

On Thursday, the Treasury Department unveiled new sanctions against the Russian government linked to its apparent hack of U.S. government networks. But the news release also included a statement clearly answering our second question above.​

​

“During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kilimnik provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy. Additionally, Kilimnik sought to promote the narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the statement read.​

​

“Kilimnik has also sought to assist designated former President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. At Yanukovych’s direction, Kilimnik sought to institute a plan that would return Yanukovych to power in Ukraine,” it read.​

Yanukovych was a member of the pro-Russian party for which Manafort had worked, the Party of Regions.​

​

That one sentence, though, appears to finally complete the long-speculated line from Trump’s campaign to Russian intelligence. It goes like this, according to the aggregated information compiled by various parts of the government:​

• Trump hires
• Manafort to run his campaign. Manafort then orders
• Gates, his deputy, to provide polling and strategy information to
• Kilimnik, their longtime colleague and, according to the Senate committee, a Russian intelligence officer. Kilimnik then shares that information with
• Russian intelligence agents.

Collusion, definition: "An often secret action taken by two or more parties to achieve an illegal or improper purpose."

We’ve always known collusion was real. Even the gas lighters knew, but lying served them better than admitting they supported traitors.

 

[calamity]

So what?

So, we just proved the Right lied for four years. That’s what. Collusion was real. Own it.

 

[calamity]

No. It doesn't.

Hell, that's like saying someone six degrees away from Kevin Bacon has direct ties to the guy. A ridiculous notion.

Not as ridiculous as the outrageously absurd lie you’re spinning right now.

 

[Mycroft]

So, we just proved the Right lied for four years. That’s what. Collusion was real. Own it.

You (and the other people who make up your notion of "we") have proved nothing.

 

[jpn]

Excellent.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Excellent.

Ya know, I am of a certain ethnicity and my family grew up in a certain area of New York, so @Mycroft and a few other cohorts are insulting my intelligence. But I am not important here, he's insulting the intelligence of a lot of adults who understand how gangsters operate.
There is absolutely nothing to be gained from anything he says, ever.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Sorry, but three middlemen between Trump and Russian intelligence agents...each with their own decision-making powers...means that there is no connection between Trump and Russian intelligence agents.

You are going to have to do better than this kind of spin, speculation, innuendo and hyperbole.

btw, who died and made some Senate committee god?

Sorry, but whose campaign was it that they were working for? Whose name was on it? Knowing Trump be the control freak that he is do you really think for a minute that he had no inkling whatsoever about what they were doing in his name? Yeah right!

 

[Mycroft]

Sorry, but whose campaign was it that they were working for? Whose name was on it? Knowing Trump be the control freak that he is do you really think for a minute that he had no inkling whatsoever about what they were doing in his name? Yeah right!

Only one of those three middlemen worked for the Trump campaign.

 

[TomFitz]

On Thursday, the Treasury Department unveiled new sanctions against the Russian government linked to its apparent hack of U.S. government networks. But the news release also included a statement clearly answering our second question above.​

​

“During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kilimnik provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy. Additionally, Kilimnik sought to promote the narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the statement read.​

​

“Kilimnik has also sought to assist designated former President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. At Yanukovych’s direction, Kilimnik sought to institute a plan that would return Yanukovych to power in Ukraine,” it read.​

Yanukovych was a member of the pro-Russian party for which Manafort had worked, the Party of Regions.​

​

That one sentence, though, appears to finally complete the long-speculated line from Trump’s campaign to Russian intelligence. It goes like this, according to the aggregated information compiled by various parts of the government:​

• Trump hires
• Manafort to run his campaign. Manafort then orders
• Gates, his deputy, to provide polling and strategy information to
• Kilimnik, their longtime colleague and, according to the Senate committee, a Russian intelligence officer. Kilimnik then shares that information with
• Russian intelligence agents.

Collusion, definition: "An often secret action taken by two or more parties to achieve an illegal or improper purpose."

I remember when Trump named Manafort. I was shocked.

It wasn’t exactly a secret that Manafort had worked for the Russians in order to prop up their man Yanokovich in Ukraine. He was working for Kilimnik and Oleg Deripashka (who bankrolled the effort).

And just to be sure. Manafort was on the hook the Kilimnek’s protege, the gangster Russian oligarch Oleg Deripashka, who Manafort owed a lot of money to.

Newly unsealed court filing shows Paul Manafort was more indebted to Putin ally Oleg Deripaska than previously known

An FBI search warrant application for Paul Manafort that was unsealed this week shows that the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska loaned him $10 million. Deripaska is closely tied to the Kremlin, and Manafort offered to give him "private briefings" about the Trump campaign.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[TomFitz]

Only one of those three middlemen worked for the Trump campaign.

Rick Gates and Manafort both worked the Trump campaign. It’s pretty obvious that Manafort continued to be involved even after being publicly dismissed. That was when the Russians moved Kelly Ann Conway into the role. She answered to Robert Mercer, another well known friend of Russians oligarchs.

Oh, and Manafort was Roger Stone’s business partner for years, and Rick Gates worked for both of them.

The problem that you die hard Trump losers have is that the facts never went away. Sure Barr and McConnell worked tirelessly to make sure that the fuhrer skated on accountability. And the right wing noise machine made a big show of wishing the facts away with slogans that bobble heads could bobble to (“collusion delusion”, ready made for high school level minds), the facts all remained.

Trump will probably spend his days at Mar A Lago, receiving as steadily dwindling number of sycophants and trying to figure out new ways to get guys like you to throw your money at him.

He almost certainly won’t go to jail over the Russian collusion effort.

But history has already assessed and assigned his guilt.

As I said, the fact, that you spent four years trying to bluster and wish away, still remain.

 

[Mycroft]

Rick Gates and Manafort both worked the Trump campaign. It’s pretty obvious that Manafort continued to be involved even after being publicly dismissed. That was when the Russians moved Kelly Ann Conway into the role. She answered to Robert Mercer, another well known friend of Russians oligarchs.

Oh, and Manafort was Roger Stone’s business partner for years, and Rick Gates worked for both of them.

Gates and Stone are not involved in this.

Dude...don't bother me with your debunked conspiracy theories. They are old news...dead and gone.

 

[switt]

Gates and Stone are not involved in this.

Dude...don't bother me with your debunked conspiracy theories. They are old news...dead and gone.

The news is that these are not conspiracy theories, but are facts. Hate to be the spoiler, but Trump and Fox aren't completely honest.

 

[dave8383]

 

[Peter King]

On Thursday, the Treasury Department unveiled new sanctions against the Russian government linked to its apparent hack of U.S. government networks. But the news release also included a statement clearly answering our second question above.​

​

“During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kilimnik provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy. Additionally, Kilimnik sought to promote the narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the statement read.​

​

“Kilimnik has also sought to assist designated former President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. At Yanukovych’s direction, Kilimnik sought to institute a plan that would return Yanukovych to power in Ukraine,” it read.​

Yanukovych was a member of the pro-Russian party for which Manafort had worked, the Party of Regions.​

​

That one sentence, though, appears to finally complete the long-speculated line from Trump’s campaign to Russian intelligence. It goes like this, according to the aggregated information compiled by various parts of the government:​

• Trump hires
• Manafort to run his campaign. Manafort then orders
• Gates, his deputy, to provide polling and strategy information to
• Kilimnik, their longtime colleague and, according to the Senate committee, a Russian intelligence officer. Kilimnik then shares that information with
• Russian intelligence agents.

Collusion, definition: "An often secret action taken by two or more parties to achieve an illegal or improper purpose."

Manafort and Gates might be guilty, but for them too it is innocent until proven guilty and for Trump that is also true. He is innocent until proven otherwise.

 

[Athanasius68]

There is nothing new here.
The Senate had already concluded that Mr. Kilmnik was a Russian agent.
It also concluded that Mr. Manafort did not know this.
Thus ends collusion.

What has been shown is that Russia targeted the 2016 election-- which we already knew.
Both candidates and the Obama Admin fell for it-- the Trump campaign as described above.
The Clinton campaign and the Obama Admin with regards to the Steele dossier

 

[PoliSciPulse]

The question is "What did Trump know and when did he know it?" Trump strikes me (and is confirmed by the Mueller Report) as a very top-level manager. He hires people and doesn't care HOW the job is done just as long as it IS done.

I worked for someone who was a top level manager. It was shocking to him to find out how dysfunctional his team was after it had been deteriorating for months.

 

[rocket88]

Sorry, but three middlemen between Trump and Russian intelligence agents...each with their own decision-making powers...means that there is no connection between Trump and Russian intelligence agents.

You are going to have to do better than this kind of spin, speculation, innuendo and hyperbole.

btw, who died and made some Senate committee god?

Funny, you liked the power if the Senate when they were investigating Hillary Clinton. Why the sudden change of heart?