When a man can send a mob to try to kill members of his own party, but they can't speak out against it without losing their power, that is really the only answer you need.
It’s the party of We Must Destroy Liberals At All Costs. I can’t see any other policy that drives them so clearly.
They know if they speak out they will be primaried by another trumplike nutter. Trump has exposed the true nature of the gop, they hate everyone not like them and have no problem putting it on display for all to see.The part I find so troubling is the lack of courage and values being demonstrated by most of the GOP. They are so worried about ticking off Trump that they will silently accept, even defend, the most outrageous and dangerous behaviour. No idea what it will take for the GOP to return to its conservative and ethical values but for now Trump reigns supreme.
Means to an end.'Destroy Liberals'?
How about, 'Destroy Democracy'?
By manufacturing an enemy, typically, but this time it’s the reverse. They’ve abandoned democracy because it’s an obstacle to eliminating the enemy. That there’s an enemy was already established. Autocracy is the solution.Of course.
How else does autocracy work?
By manufacturing an enemy, typically, but this time it’s the reverse. They’ve abandoned democracy because it’s an obstacle to eliminating the enemy.
Yeah...there's a thread on it and their claims aren't what they are making them out to be. For example:Well said.
Never thought I'd be speaking like this, nor seeing what I'm seeing, but 'it is what it is'.
Have you heard of, or read, the recent Atlantic piece? I've only skimmed it so far, and it's pretty chilling:
January 6 Was Practice
Donald Trump’s next coup has already begun—and today’s GOP is much better positioned to subvert future elections.www.theatlantic.com
From your link:
"However, the State Election Board can only suspend local election officials after a hearing that must take place at least 30 days after the initial complaint, so in practice there probably would not be enough time after an election for partisan hardliners to coopt these powers and overturn an election."
The state's elections aren't going to be open 30 after the complaint, whenever that gets lodged.
While I agree, the Republican Party has become the party of Trump, the party of one man instead of standing for the ideals and philosophy of conservatism. Trump in my opinion, has no political ideology or philosophy outside of being for Trump himself. I do think it is the Democrats who have the greater obsession with Trump. Trump lost, he’s no longer president, no longer in charge although he still controls the Republican Party. The Democrats still act and behave like he’s still president which can be detrimental to their chances next year in the midterms.It seems to me the gop has turned into the party of trump. Since he is no longer president he wants to keep the gop unsure if he will run again or not, all the while playing kingmaker picking candidates he wants to see win a primary.
So, is it the left who has tds, or is it the gop who has tds?
Yes, I’ve been well aware of these developments for at least as long as you have. Like Democrats in Congress and the White House, I’ve been sleepwalking toward the collapse of democracy. The difference between me and them is that they have the institutional ability to do something about it and I don’t.Well said.
Never thought I'd be speaking like this, nor seeing what I'm seeing, but 'it is what it is'.
Have you heard of, or read, the recent Atlantic piece? I've only skimmed it so far, and it's pretty chilling:
January 6 Was Practice
Donald Trump’s next coup has already begun—and today’s GOP is much better positioned to subvert future elections.www.theatlantic.com
Yeah...there's a thread on it and their claims aren't what they are making them out to be. For example:
“We’re not a democracy and we were never meant to be” has become the dominant argument among the right. But sure, we have nothing to fear from these obvious maneuvers to dismantle democracy and undo the results of a free and fair election. Or that they believe the Constitution was meant to ensure minoritarian rule. Or the fact that a majority of the Republican Party believes that violence is an acceptable tool for solving political problems. Or that a majority of the GOP believes that the 2020 election was stolen. Or that they believe the insurrectionists are political prisoners and Babbitt is Joan of Arc.Your link has a paywall, so I can't ascertain its veracity.
But there's a lot more to the article than one claim.
and regardless of the details, it is clear the GOP politicians are attempting to subvert the will of the voters and give the power to themselves, in incremental steps.
Yes, I’ve been well aware of these developments for at least as long as you have. Like Democrats in Congress and the White House, I’ve been sleepwalking toward the collapse of democracy. The difference between me and them is that they have the institutional ability to do something about it and I don’t.
Hey, but we just passed a huge infrastructure bill and job numbers are good.Well said.
Thing is, I'm a firm believer in norms, decency, respect, and supporting the 'system'. But a legislator adhering to the 'norms' of a system, while system is being destroyed, is abrogating one's duties I believe.
If the federal voting legislation doesn't go through (it won't), then I believe the boat has been tipped. It's going to be hard to right it. We need to realize we are under attack. This is not simply, 'politics'. And the attacks are steadily & incrementally increasing in severity & efficacy. They're not abating.
“We’re not a democracy and we were never meant to be” has become the dominant argument among the right. But sure, we have nothing to fear from these obvious maneuvers to dismantle democracy and undo the results of a free and fair election. Or that they believe the Constitution was meant to ensure minoritarian rule. Or the fact that a majority of the Republican Party believes that violence is an acceptable meant to solving political problems. Or that a majority of the GOP believes that the 2020 election was stolen. Or that they believe the insurrectionists are political prisoners and Babbitt is Joan of Arc.
Nope, everything is A-Okay.
What's with the Party crap? How about voting for the individual instead? Is that not how the Framers envisioned the voting, election, and representation process? There is nowhere it is written that elections decide parties to fight each other and silence the opposition and all they stand for no matter what the issue is.It's, for some stupid reason, becoming the Party of Trump. It's rather sad that they've fallen like this, perhaps it's time for folk to abandon the GOP in favor of third parties.
?...I'm not subscribed to anything and neither do I have any addons and viewed it fine. The point being the claims are exactly what they always are, loud and without substance.Your link has a paywall, so I can't ascertain its veracity.
But there's a lot more to the article than one claim.
and regardless of the details, it is clear the GOP politicians are attempting to subvert the will of the voters and give the power to themselves, in incremental steps.
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