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The fat factor [W:158]

I think large numbers of Americans know almost nothing about health. If you don't read about it you wouldn't know, and lots of people never read anything.

And maybe there are fat cyclists, but I don't remember ever see any.
As a cyclist, I can tell you there are quite a bunch of beer/pasta bellies when the weekend warriors roll out.
 
Also, prohibition just doesn't work. Nothing we have made illegal has been stopped in even a remotely effective way. The only thing we've done is apply harsh sentences for users of controlled substances rather than treating the causes of addiction, which is the real problem. As for marijuana use, if I had to choose between prevalence of that drug over alcohol I'd prefer it any day. Users of the latter tend not to be as bad as angry drunks. I've always felt that marijuana should have been legalized a long time ago.
 
No, you weren't 'poisoned', you had an adverse reaction. It happens-rarely, but it happens. My best friend's partner had the Pfizer vaccine and she was laid-up for a week. He, on the other hand, had no reaction whatsoever with the same vaccine.
 
When you mention this:

You are in effect blaming those things on the problem of obesity in the United States. This is just like CRT and is the number one reason America is so messed up and divided today. We blame everyone except the individual.

As a guy who spent about 40 years or so trying to make it easy for folks to consume pre-packaged foods, I know that both you and the poster to whom your respond are right.

Ultimately, though, you are more right. The individual is the decider on the ground and in the moment who dictates what is happening in his own life.

Nobody but the buyer is dictating whether to stop at McDonalds for a Big Mac or at Subway for a Tuna Salad.

In this case, the consumer is literally consuming the products chosen. Nobody else is choosing for them.

Now comes the question, "What choices are available to the chooser?".
 
Right, the risk of dying from covid is not that great, except maybe for the very fat or very sick or very old. The terror has been stoked by mainstream news, for some reason.

No, its not even great for the very fat. 99% recover. Its greater than not being fat, but its still minimal.
 
Your post is a very important one as a teaching lesson for the readers. In spite of the cackles and "LOLs" I will get for saying this, I come here for amusement and teaching these posters, many of whom will bristle at this and lambaste the post for quite some time. It's OK. I am used to it. Like it or not, humans are more manipulated than rats in a cage experiment. When someone posts something like the people in government or business indoctrinating and/or controlling us, we call it a conspiracy theory. CRT is a phrase we use to avoid having to examine how and why we are being controlled because then we have to make changes in our thought processes to not allow it. The Russian Ruse is one example that even many leftists now admit they were duped over. But there are still some who won't admit they were had by the DNC and the FBI because they were indoctrinated by the same people (Democrats and MSM) to hate Trump and they can't let go. This is a psychological protective mechanism called denial and is used in all cases when we are faced with having believed a lie(s) and do not want to face the ramifications of why we believed. The ugly truth is that we did believe and we did do things because of societal manipulation, and that also applies to religion. We are taught things in early childhood that would be preposterous to someone in a different country but believe them because it is from our parents, siblings, or the group/city/state/country we happen to live in.

So, El Chup here is posting that fatness is the fault of fast foods, processed foods and, as you say, this is partially correct. But, therein lies the problem we have in America today. That contention is EXACTLY the same as the CRT premise, which is that black people are where they are because of white people. Yes, there was slavery. Yes, there was Jim Crow. Yes, some people hate blacks. Yes, some cops beat them. Thus we excuse the many because of the few. By that, I mean we excuse irresponsibilty whether it be having an abortion, robbing a store, killing someone, homelessness, being fat, lazy, not studying because there is some racism i America and there was slavery and in the case of being fat that there are processed foods and fast food joints. And, we as a society let them get away with this crap when we should berate them, shame them, criticize them, and put them in their place. We have met the enemy and it is us. We bought into this claptrap of blaming and have created a society where blame is placed on guns, bullets, fast foods, white people, rich people, and (fill in the blanks)

To solve our problems when people bitch and complain, we should hand them a mirror. OTHERS don't need to change......we do.
 
No, you weren't 'poisoned', you had an adverse reaction. It happens-rarely, but it happens. My best friend's partner had the Pfizer vaccine and she was laid-up for a week. He, on the other hand, had no reaction whatsoever with the same vaccine.
I had no reaction. Why? Because I am healthy and didn't feel like getting vaccinated and risking my death just to placate angry and in your face leftists.
 
I had no reaction. Why? Because I am healthy and didn't feel like getting vaccinated and risking my death just to placate angry and in your face leftists.

The fact that reactions can be so bad (and they are very common) suggests to me that these vaccines are very toxic to our bodies. It is already known and acknowledged that the spike proteins are toxic. The spikes will enter different organs in different people. I just hope my body finally got rid of them. I feel ok now, after 2 months. I would NOT let them force me to go through that misery again.
 
I am continually spellbound by how I am witnessing firsthand this late in life just how easy it is to indoctrinate an entire human race through the use of fear. Even though I am a conservative, I also draw the ire of some conservatives when I lambaste religion. That this happens only serves to prove that conservatives are indoctrinated by religion because NO ONE hets angry at something they know is false. It is impossible. For instance, if someone really believes something to be true of anything, whether it be other people, the world, or themselves, they are so sure that nothing you could say would upset them because you believe you hold the truth. That a Christian would get mad when I say they are indoctrinated means to me that they are insecure in their own beliefs.

This applies to everything in life. It applies to the rancor over not being vaccinated. The believers are unsure that the vaccine THEY took really works. If I am unvaccinated and they are vaccinated, how can I affect them? Either the vaccine works or it doesn't. It can't be both ways. So, when you see all these angry postings when someone posts they will not get the vaccine, they are not concerned with OTHER people, they are concerned that their vaccine may not work. They know what I have been posting which is that a healthy person rarely dies from Covid. They are weak, some obese, some with health issues, that are afraid to die, and even though vaccinated, they are still in fear and indoctrinated by MSM and the DNC and are taught to stay there now with more goalpost moving that there are NEW strains, even though the delta version has been proven to be no more virulent than the flu. Humans are easily duped.
 

One point overlooked is that the "moderate link" is an average. Closer examination shows that the link to risk depends on the age of a fat person. For a given amount of obseity the younger the person THE MORE obesity is a co morbidity. Over 70 or so there is no obesity contributed risk.
 
Pathetic. Why are conservatives such frightened little ******s?

And why are lefties so terrified of a disease that is usually harmless, just because big gov and big news want you scared?

I am NOT frightened of the vaccines, I just think they are reckless and may cause permanent damage, especially to young people.

And I am not a "conservative" by the way. How come all the skeptics are labeled conservative now?
 

Indoctrination is universal, and none of us escape it completely. But if we become aware of how easy it is to become indoctrinated, that increases our ability to avoid it. When I see people repeating exactly the same things, then I suspect indoctrination.

It depends on how much time you spend in an ideological bubble. The more you are exposed to diverse opinions, the less indoctrinated you will be. Because different ideologies contradict each other, and it is not possible to be completely indoctrinated into more than one.
 
And it is such BS propaganda. The odds of dying from covid, if you are reasonably healthy, are almost zero.
This is what MSM doesn't want their sheep to know. As the infamous CNN Director said, FEAR sells and they are engaged in propaganda. They made no subsequent apologies or excuses for his truthful admissions, either. They are just an arm of the DNC.
 
Yes, it is universal and has been going on since the dawn of time. Those who believed their elders and parents and rulers and did what they said survived. Thus, indoctrination itself is evolutionary and was necessary for the furtherance of the human species. People would warn others of danger such as hurricanes, volcanoes, potential invasions, and killings, and generally, the warnings were right because the cavemen had little reason to lie as a means of control. Being indoctrinated is ingrained in the human mind and this is why large segments of the populace trust and believe those "in authority" even though those authority figures may be complete whack jobs like Fausti.
 
This is what MSM doesn't want their sheep to know. As the infamous CNN Director said, FEAR sells and they are engaged in propaganda. They made no subsequent apologies or excuses for his truthful admissions, either. They are just an arm of the DNC.

But I don't think it's just because MSM wants to make profits. I'm not sure exactly what they want, why the Democrats are so gung ho about the vaccines. Even people who wouldn't go near GMO food are preaching the genetic vaccine gospel now.
 

Yes, I completely agree. Indoctrination had always been necessary for survival, and probably still is. I just personally can't stand it, especially when it's so extreme.
 
Yes, I completely agree. Indoctrination had always been necessary for survival, and probably still is. I just personally can't stand it, especially when it's so extreme.
What humans have over other animals is their larger brains ad that's really about all. Even amongst lower animals, we see the elders and parents controlling their young with physicality and shrieking that humans don't understand but the animals do. They learn that if they don't dodo what mommy or daddy "says" they will be in trouble. All humans have done is to anoint surrogates such as politicians, doctors, and others with titles to control our young on our behalf so their own offspring don't perish, because if that was commonplace, humans would go extinct.

With the advent of TV, the smarter and more devious humans saw a way to control the populace that was never before around. They could do that with surrogates they called "News" people. In the beginning, it was just announcers reading from a teleprompter but morphed into personalities who were more flamboyant and extended their news to commentary and the best of them got the ratings and the money for the TV stations. All that morphed into the internet and the means of population control with disinformation, misinformation, slanting, and hiding by deleting those who disagree with them. Cable TV and the internet collude to shape the narrative or the messaging they want us all to hear and see. This is in direct collusion with high-powered members of the Democratic party.

The human's belief system and genes still tell them that they need to trust and believe these people, just as they did in the cavemen days. They still think their very survival depends on the proclamations and announcements of those "in authority" or they will die. This is exactly why someone like Fausti and Biden and idiots like Schumer and Pelosi hold so much sway. Humans are afraid and live in fear that if they don't, they may die.
 
But I don't think it's just because MSM wants to make profits. I'm not sure exactly what they want, why the Democrats are so gung ho about the vaccines. Even people who wouldn't go near GMO food are preaching the genetic vaccine gospel now.
Greed is a sickness. Even a billion isn't enough. It has been shown to be true in almost every case People never stop the quest for more. With money comes power. The power over others to make their lives miserable or good. Too many revel in that power.
 

Yes but, the internet also gave a voice to dissidents. The Democrats et. al. are cracking down and banning and canceling them, but we can still find some alternative information. It's important to realize that information that is non-mainstream is NOT all conspiracy theory craziness. The authoritarians slap the CT label on everything that challenges their indoctrination.

We do need authorities and leaders though. The challenge is to restrict them and prevent them from taking complete control. That is what the USA was designed for. Unfortunately, the political left thinks the only threat is from the Trumpers. No, the Trumpers are probably just a reaction to, and rebellion against, the Democrat-led totalitarians.
 

It's desire for power, money is just a means to more power. I don't call it greed. For example, Bill Gates probably has himself convinced that he is motivated by compassion, not greed or power. And all the rest of them, possibly, think they are trying to help the world.

People who advocate censorship (most Democrats) think they are saving us from dangerous misinformation. MSM is part of that, and social media. Helping the world, saving us from our own stupidity.

We're on the road to hell, and as always it is paved with good intentions.
 
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