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The FACTS of COVID are that it is an East Coast problem in Democrat strongholds

Paradoxical said:
Cases don’t mean crap.
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Incorrect. Cases are good indicators of how pervasive a disease is in a specific location, which for this particular disease, also has meant impact in hospitalizations. Fortunately the latter is going down.
 
Paradoxical said:
The only thing that matters, Quag, is the number of deaths per million. You know this and are just parrying. Try that with someone else. You are becoming a bore now.
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More diversion
What is the state of New York's population?
 
MTAtech said:
Here is a breakdown of COVID-19 cases per 100,000 population in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, as of 8 a.m. CST Feb. 24:

These are the worst top ten:

North Dakota — 13,050 per 100,000 population
Population: 762,062 residents

South Dakota — 12,609 per 100,000
Population: 884,659

Rhode Island — 11,730 per 100,000
Population: 1.1 million

Utah — 11,472 per 100,000
Population: 3.2 million

Arizona — 11,150 per 100,000
Population: 7.3 million

Tennessee — 11,043 per 100,000
Population: 6.8 million

Oklahoma — 10,620 per 100,000
Population: 4 million

Iowa — 10,585 per 100,000
Population: 3.2 million

Wisconsin — 10,536 per 100,000
Population: 5.8 million

Arkansas — 10,491 per 100,000
Population: 3 million

source — https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...anked-by-confirmed-covid-19-cases-july-1.html

The data seems to undercut Para’s argument.
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He was referring to deaths per million, but as I stated in post #1251, the number of cases do matter in determining how prevalent the disease is in a given area.
 
Paradoxical said:
Cases don’t mean crap.
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You are so full of it. There is a direct correlation between death rate and the number of cases. The ratio is about 2% in the U.S.

But let's recap the discussion. You asserted that Covid is an east-coast problem (implying that the rest of the country need not be so concerned). Not only is your assertion wrong on mere inspection, the data shows it to be wrong.
You use as a data measure deaths since the pandemic started. Of course if one includes early numbers when there were no protocols those numbers East Coast states will be higher. But those states came down fast once social distancing and masks were mandated.
ElChupacabra rightly said:
"If you're honest, you'll look at weekly DPM rates to gain better insight as to what that number means over time versus just the cumulative number." That's correct and that's what I did but used cases, as cases are a proxy for deaths in the future.

Two of the worst are North Dakota and South Dakota, each have political leaders that resist measures recommended by the CDC.

In S. Dakota, in November, over 50 people a day were dying of Covid, in a state with a population of 884,659. That was the same number dying in NY, which has over 20X the population.
N. Dakota has about 40 per day last November. ND has a lower population than SD.
 
ElChupacabra said:
Incorrect. Cases are good indicators of how pervasive a disease is in a specific location, which for this particular disease, also has meant impact in hospitalizations. Fortunately the latter is going down.
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That would be true if the "cases" were
1.) accurate
2.) said what the severity of the cases was
3.) said how many needed further care
4.) let us know what strain the person allegedly had

The REPORTED cases do none of the above. Someone has some sort of cold as we speak. If ge were to go for a test, most likely they would say it's COVID (flu). And........?

All "cases' do is to allow those who live in media driven fear to stay there.
 
I'm just glad the OP was so spot on about COVID yet again. Otherwise old people in places like Montana and Idaho would have to get a vaccine shot.
 
Paradoxical said:
That would be true if the "cases" were
1.) accurate
2.) said what the severity of the cases was
3.) said how many needed further care
4.) let us know what strain the person allegedly had

The REPORTED cases do none of the above. Someone has some sort of cold as we speak. If ge were to go for a test, most likely they would say it's COVID (flu). And........?

All "cases' do is to allow those who live in media driven fear to stay there.
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Ah, you're still pushing the "NOTHING IS ACCURATE!!" line....
🤭
 
MTAtech said:
You are so full of it. There is a direct correlation between death rate and the number of cases. The ratio is about 2% in the U.S.

But let's recap the discussion. You asserted that Covid is an east-coast problem (implying that the rest of the country need not be so concerned). Not only is your assertion wrong on mere inspection, the data shows it to be wrong.
You use as a data measure deaths since the pandemic started. Of course if one includes early numbers when there were no protocols those numbers East Coast states will be higher. But those states came down fast once social distancing and masks were mandated.
ElChupacabra rightly said:
"If you're honest, you'll look at weekly DPM rates to gain better insight as to what that number means over time versus just the cumulative number." That's correct and that's what I did but used cases, as cases are a proxy for deaths in the future.

Two of the worst are North Dakota and South Dakota, each have political leaders that resist measures recommended by the CDC.

In S. Dakota, in November, over 50 people a day were dying of Covid, in a state with a population of 884,659. That was the same number dying in NY, which has over 20X the population.
N. Dakota has about 40 per day last November. ND has a lower population than SD.
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No masks, no shutdown. Do you know that the 2 trillion dollar bill that your children and grandchildren will be saddled with bails out the poorly run east coast states who shut down needlessly?

As for cases, the more people who have tested means the more "cases' there will be. In the early days, the percentages were higher because fewer people tested. Today, it is not even close to 2% of the cases that are positive will die and you should know if you know math. But you apparently don't. Now people are being tested regularly and their symptoms are minor but they go down as "positive". Have you seen the reports of bad tests, also? Many, many false positives. Someone makes money off it. Maybe to pay Fauci's salary.
 
Paradoxical said:
Prove it or go away.
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I have so many times its absurd, you have proven yourself immune to reality
However the actual burden of proof is upon you to support your claims something you have never ever been able to do
 
Quag said:
I have so many times its absurd, you have proven yourself immune to reality
However the actual burden of proof is upon you to support your claims something you have never ever been able to do
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Your reading comprehension skills are highly suspect.
 
Paradoxical said:
No masks, no shutdown. Do you know that the 2 trillion dollar bill that your children and grandchildren will be saddled with bails out the poorly run east coast states who shut down needlessly?
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Please spare me the crocodile tears about saddling my offspring with debt when you had no problem slashing taxes on the rich that ballooned the debt.
The reality is that the popular Covid relief plan helps workers and families suffering from the hardship caused by Covid. It also provides funds for distributing vaccines -- all across the U.S. It will be paid with debt at the lowest rates in history.

Medical experts, and the data prove it, that states that shutdown faired far better than states that didn't. You pro-life conservatives seem to care not about lives after they're born. You're so willing to sacrifice people so you can go to the local saloon.

You really need to adjust your mindset away from the fallacy that Covid is only an east coast problem.
 
Until February of this year, ALL experts including Fauci and the Surgeon General - plus all MSM commentators - explained that people should NOT wear masks because all they do is infect themselves and then others by having infected themselves.
The goal has always been to spread and infect as many people with covid-19 - or at least claim so - as possible - and to claim as many deaths as possible - all for the power and profits of the plutocrats and kelptocrats. Pelosi did her part by refusing even to allow even $1 for over a week when President Trump asks for hundreds of billions to try to contain covid-19 at the very start.
They have been extremely successful in these goals:

Over 500,000 American small businesses and millions worldwide have been shut down on behalf of Jeff Bezos/Amazon, WalMart and the other American/Chinese business partnerships.

The United States government has become a totalitarian kleptocracy in which 20,000 "executives" have exercised absolute totalitarian power over every second of everyone's life. Americans have been forced to accept we are under totalitarian rule for which constitutions and laws are summarily declared void by any executive orders regarding everything including elections.

The goal has never been to contain or limit covid-19, but to maximize infection and death counts any way possible both by establishing rules to spread covid-19 (such as forcing people to congregate into big box stores), by wearing masks and the false claim that covid-19 will die instantly within 6 feet of any infected person.

There is no limit to the pure ignorance and gullibility of most people. In terms of covid-19, most people and the vast majority of Democrats have less IQ and thinking power than someone with Down Syndrome in real terms.
 
MTAtech said:
Please spare me the crocodile tears about saddling my offspring with debt when you had no problem slashing taxes on the rich that ballooned the debt.
The reality is that the popular Covid relief plan helps workers and families suffering from the hardship caused by Covid. It also provides funds for distributing vaccines -- all across the U.S. It will be paid with debt at the lowest rates in history.

Medical experts, and the data prove it, that states that shutdown faired far better than states that didn't. You pro-life conservatives seem to care not about lives after they're born. You're so willing to sacrifice people so you can go to the local saloon.

You really need to adjust your mindset away from the fallacy that Covid is only an east coast problem.
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Here we go AGAIN with the far left-wingers using those "in authority" as if I am supposed to believe that person(s) because he has some initials behind his name. People are out of work, suffering, committing suicide, are depressed in those states that shut down needlessly, and the children who aren't attending school will have and do have severe psychological problems. the shutdowns were not needed. See Florida.
 
joko104 said:
Until February of this year, ALL experts including Fauci and the Surgeon General - plus all MSM commentators - explained that people should NOT wear masks because all they do is infect themselves and then others by having infected themselves.
The goal has always been to spread and infect as many people with covid-19 - or at least claim so - as possible - and to claim as many deaths as possible - all for the power and profits of the plutocrats and kelptocrats.
They have been extremely successful in these goals:
Over 500,000 American small businesses and millions worldwide have been shut down on behalf of Jeff Bezos/Amazon, WalMart and the other American/Chinese business partnerships.
The United States government has become a totalitarian kleptocracy in which 20,000 "executives" have exercised absolute totalitarian power over every second of everyone's life.

The goal has never been to contain or limit covid-19, but to maximize infection and death counts any way possible both by establishing rules to spread covid-19 (such as forcing people to congregate into big box stores), by wearing masks and the false claim that covid-19 will die instantly within 6 feet of any infected person.

There is no limit to the pure ignorance and gullibility of most people. In terms of covid-19, most people and the vast majority of Democrats have less IQ and thinking power than someone with Down Syndrome in real terms.
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Amazon and other internet-based companies made a "killing" off the shutdown.

By the way, they donate heavily to who..........the evil Democrats who use fear to control the sheep.
 
Paradoxical said:
Amazon and other internet-based companies made a "killing" off the shutdown.

By the way, they donate heavily to who..........the evil Democrats who use fear to control the sheep.
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Nope you dont get to run away like the coward Trump you worship
What is the state of New York's population?
 
Hari Seldon said:
Do you not recognize the title of this, your own thread?

The FACTS of COVID are that it is an East Coast problem in Democrat strongholds
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Is there some reason you cannot comprehend that testing positive for Covid19 doesn't mean medical treatment required and that when testing positive that is registered as a case of Covid19? Can you explain to me why you are so loyal to liberalism? Seems that people supporting the liberal ideology focus solely on rhetoric and never on results. Do you realize that over 97,000 deaths from Covid 19 have been registered in NY and California? Tell us which states had the most stringent lockdown programs?

Oh by the way we now know that Cuomo lied about the Covid19 Nursing home deaths so wonder if those NY deaths are accurate?

Coronavirus United States - live map tracker from Microsoft Bing

2/25/2021CasesDeaths
United States28,693,938513,5171.8%
New York1620181467902.9%
Texas2633310433501.6%
California3,554,195513851.4%
Florida1892301310151.6%
New Jersey778960231473.0%
 
ElChupacabra said:
Incorrect. Cases are good indicators of how pervasive a disease is in a specific location, which for this particular disease, also has meant impact in hospitalizations. Fortunately the latter is going down.
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yep
 
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