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Funny how lists like THIS never get any notable play in the media -- Amir Taheri:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/1029200...he_enemy_fails_opedcolumnists_amir_taheri.htm

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HERE are some of the objectives that the Jihadists, the Saddamites and other enemies of new Iraq had fixed for themselves but did not achieve:

* Seizing enough territory in and around the towns of Haditha and Aanah in the al-Anbar province to establish an "Islamic emirate" there. Despite several major attempts they failed, largely because a strong new coalition of Sunni Arab tribes in Anbar has entered the fight to flush the jihadists out of Iraq.

* To gain a foothold in Mosul, Iraq's largest Arab Sunni city, and turn it into a new base as Fallujah had been in 2004. Again, despite several attempts, the plan failed - thanks to the new Iraqi army backed by U.S. forces.

* To blow up the Shiite holy shrines in Karbala and Najaf just as was done in Samarrah last year. At least 12 suicide-bombers were sent to the two cities on the last day of Ramadan. The authorities decided to close the shrines for 48 hours, captured some of the would-be bombers and nipped the plot in the bud.

* Attacking the "Green Zone" in the heat of Baghdad, where most Iraqi government offices and the U.S. embassy are located. The insurgents made at least two attempts but failed, suffering heavy casualties.

* To paralyze the parliament by threatening to kill its members at a time they were discussing such key issues as federalism, a law for foreign investments in Iraq and the terms of an amnesty and national reconciliation. Again, despite several attempts on the lives of parliamentarians, the plot failed.

* To prevent Arab Sunni clerics from traveling to Mecca to sign a concordat with their Shiite clerics, calling for an end to sectarian killings. Again, the jihadist efforts failed, as all key figures in the Arab Sunni clerical elite of Iraq went to Mecca and signed the concordat.

* Muqtada al-Sadr and his Jaish al-Mahdi (Mahdi Army) tried to seize control of the southern Shiite city of al-Amarah with a well-planned attack reportedly designed by Iranian advisers. However, the attack failed and Sadr's gunmen were flushed out of the city.

* Sadr's militia, in alliance with local gangsters, tried to seize control of part of the border with Iran through which crude oil is smuggled from Iraq to the Iranian refinery at Kermanshah. The attempt failed - thanks to the new Iraqi army, which now controls virtually the whole of the border outside the Kurdish areas.

* Despite numerous murders and abductions, the jihadist promise to force the total closure of hospitals, universities, schools, newspapers, TV stations and even barber shops was not fulfilled.

* A plot by Sadr militias to seize the Interior Ministry and reinstate the 1,300 of their members who had been purged by the new minister failed, again thanks to the new Iraqi police.

* Despite explicit murder threats, more than a dozen prominent Iraqi political figures, among them former Prime Minister Iyad Allawi and former Deputy Premier Ahmad Chalabi, returned to Baghdad after months spent abroad.

* Attempts at preventing the forthcoming local government elections by destroying voter lists and killing election organizers have failed. The elections will take place on schedule with all Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish and Christian parties already in the field.

* To drive a wedge between Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and Grand Ayatollah Ali-Muhamamd Sistani, the primus inter pares of the Shiite clergy. The attempt, backed by Sadr and others, failed when Maliki went to Najaf to acknowledge Sistani's position and secure his blessing for planned amnesty measures.

* To prevent the marking of the Eid al-Fitr (the end of Ramadan) by threatening people with massive suicide attacks. Again, despite several murder operations, the terrorists failed as countless Iraqis celebrated the feast with greater determination than previous years.

The various enemies of new Iraq murdered a large number of people in Ramadan, but failed to translate their crimes into any political gains for themselves. Politically, the Saddamites, the jihadists and other enemies of new Iraq have passed their worst month ever.

Taheri then observes:

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THE only success they have had is in the field of perceptions in the United States and the West in general. They could point to the fact that the "Iraq is a failure" chorus is at its loudest yet in the United States, while signs of a possible British loss of nerve multiply.

It is largely the hope of breaking the will of the American people and its key allies that keeps the insurgency alive.


So . . . where's mention all this in the copious manifests of America's supposed failures?
 
I failed to see where this list came from? Did the journalist just make it up?

I especially like this comment:

First: The United States has already achieved the goals it had proclaimed when it set out to liberate the country in 2003. Saddam Hussein and his war machinery are gone, with a democracy in their place, inspiring reform across the region.
We are still there in full force if not more force because?

Second: This success threatens countless interests - so the many enemies of the new Iraq are attempting to derail it. Yet their only real hope of victory lies with America public opinion.
Actually it doesn't threaten enemy. It opened the possibility for these interests to take control of a country. We created a free for all of whoever is the most powerful militarily to take control of Iraq.
 
Funny how lists like THIS never get any notable play in the media
WHat about statements like this getting no play at all?

There is no way to save America from moral and spiritual destruction - which will lead to physical destruction - unless right-wing righteous Gentiles are prepared to lead a massive civil disobedience revolt against the traitors destroying this once great nation.

What quacks like a Terrorist is a Terrorist. The Jewish Task Force is right here in America.

statement from: http://www.jtf.org/america/america.french.muslim.riots.one.htm
 
Navy Seal Patriot said:
WHat about statements like this getting no play at all?



What quacks like a Terrorist is a Terrorist. The Jewish Task Force is right here in America.

statement from: http://www.jtf.org/america/america.french.muslim.riots.one.htm


Exactly what does this have to do with Iraq, or the job we are doing in it.....................................................................................................................................Nothing!!!! Time to move on and make more useless points..

Thank You
And have a great day
:mrgreen:
 
Gibberish said:
We are still there in full force if not more force because?
Becase the Iraqis need help securing their nation.
That doesnt in any way negate the fact that we have achieved the goals we set down at the begniining of the war.

Actually it doesn't threaten [the] enemy.
Actually, it does. A free, open, liberal, democratic Iraq is something they cannot afford to let happen.

In any event, you're trying to steer away from the point -- that our enemies have been prevented in achieving their goals over and over and over, and that their only hope for victory is breaking our will to fight.

People like you play directly into their hands.
 
Navy Seal Patriot said:
What quacks like a Terrorist is a Terrorist. The Jewish Task Force is right here in America.

Cool where do you sign up at? Do they have a secret handshake?
Maybe a spy decoder ring too?
 
Goobieman said:
Funny how lists like THIS never get any notable play in the media -- Amir Taheri:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/1029200...he_enemy_fails_opedcolumnists_amir_taheri.htm



Taheri then observes:




So . . . where's mention all this in the copious manifests of America's supposed failures?


Do you honestly consider it an American success that we've merely prevented some OTHER group from achieving their objectives as well? Let's compare the size and budget of the American military to any insurgent group in Iraq (or all of them combined).
 
Goobieman said:
Becase the Iraqis need help securing their nation.
That doesnt in any way negate the fact that we have achieved the goals we set down at the begniining of the war.

Our mission now is "wait and hope Iraq can secure itself one day?".

Actually, it does. A free, open, liberal, democratic Iraq is something they cannot afford to let happen.

The problem here is that will never happen in Iraq. Muslims are run by their religion. Iraq will be a country controlled by high priests rather then civilians.

In any event, you're trying to steer away from the point -- that our enemies have been prevented in achieving their goals over and over and over, and that their only hope for victory is breaking our will to fight.

That is great that we are foiling their plans. With our technology and numbers in Iraq vs insurgent numbers I would hope we stopped alot of their plans. Where is the list of goals they have achieved so we can compare? US and Iraq soldiers are dieing everyday so I would think a few goals are being achieved.

Success is not determined only on what we have stopped, but also what has not been stopped.

People like you play directly into their hands.
How exactly am I playing into their hands? Because I think we made Iraq a free-for-all in terms of who can control the country? The democratic elected government obviously does not have the country under control.
 
Cool where do you sign up at? Do they have a secret handshake?
Maybe a spy decoder ring too?
Follow the link given, they have a forum and they ask for your money also; as for handshake and decoder--ask them yourself. ;)
 
Navy Seal Patriot said:
Follow the link given, they have a forum and they ask for your money also; as for handshake and decoder--ask them yourself. ;)

Damn...no decoder rings!

Thanks but no thanks I dont want to join your club..
 
Thanks but no thanks I dont want to join your club..
LOL. I understand, I wouldn't want to join a Jewish right wing domestic terrorist group either that promotes insurrection--but no one is concerned about..hmmmmm--why the doublestandard?
 

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