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The Dumbest Class Of Americans Yet

UtahBill said:
is O.K., comrade Canuck,
you northern North Americans prolly only watch TV when there is nothing better to do up there, wait, oh yeah, that should mean you watch a lot of TV.
Now I am confused, what does pass for entertainment up there? My uninformed notion is that your first choice is Hockey, second choice is reruns of Hockey, 3rd choice is a bunch of old, retired Hockey players reminiscing about the good old days when Hockey players proudly displayed their toothless grins instead of getting falsies. Speaking of falsies, is Canadian TV like British, they flash real boobs at you? I mean the kind that women have, not the kind we cental North Americans have in congress...:lol:
ROFL................
not much lol
seriously though entertainment can be found without TV
hockey lots of people on that kick up here
im not a fan, played it when i was youngster though.stopped watching it
when they expanded from 6 teams .after that the players couldnt even stand up on their own two feet.not sure if its because the allowed drunks to play
or just amateurs
I do alot of entertaining
dinner geusts and sitting around the fire place talking drinks a bit
and hobbies
play music alot guitar piano and harmonica
my girl friend plays the flute and piano
and i taught her to play the skin flute :3oops:
we get some brit stuff BENNY HILL
mostly AMERICAN propaganda tv though

(splains ) why I know a little about US issues
 
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teacher said:
True Canuck enjoys bashing America but his point, or Jeff Renses point, has merit. How can such a great country on the leading edge of technology have so many stupid people? How does one pass 2nd grade and not be able to read "Fox in Sox"? Billo's reason is obvious but the teachers and parents of those that can't got some splaining to do. Find the kids that can't read, find the teacher and the personnel that passed them and fire them.

Or is it a government conspiracy to keep people stupid and easily controlled?

Canuck said:
I can tell your over 20 you only make a few lapses from the english languge

splaining ?

teacher said:
Do you even realize how much fun we are having with you?
Canuck said:
Is the term
SPLAINING
in the dictionary,prove it,im calling you out on it.
or do you cede ,that it is a non english *grunt*
I have never seen it before , Just curious as to what it means.
by your sentence I thought you meant explaining but it can't
be

there is no s in explaining
and I dont see how an S fits in
splode
sterminate
scon
would all apply by your using splaining if that were the case
did you get dumbed down by your schools too
UtahBill said:
splaining is slang for what Ricky Ricardo used to say to Lucy.
as in "Lucy, you got some splainin' to do".
That is OLD American TV, maybe you are too young for it.....

Canuck said:
got it bill ,im slow and have too many hot totties in me
I WISH I was too young to know about it, I would have an excuse.
Those were the days of good BW TV now we get to listen to dribbling
chaos and cnn with the nothing is happening syndrom
I guess the schools are not entirely to blame then Tv had its hand in it also
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sorry about the calling you out on the term splaining :3oops:
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So do you see where this was going UtahBill?

One of my favorite tactics is to give them the rope and watch them hang themselves. But you let the cat out of the bag. Ended my fun. Had Canuck going to. No telling how long I could have strung this one out. No matter, made my point.

Hey Canuck, I, teacher, of the massive brain, have made you smack yourself. How embarrassing.

Did I get dumbed down in school? Classic!
 
teacher said:
So do you see where this was going UtahBill?

One of my favorite tactics is to give them the rope and watch them hang themselves. But you let the cat out of the bag. Ended my fun. Had Canuck going to. No telling how long I could have strung this one out. No matter, made my point.

Hey Canuck, I, teacher, of the massive brain, have made you smack yourself. How embarrassing.

Did I get dumbed down in school? Classic!


YOu have utterly substaniated this thread TREE
 
The Quintessential False Dichotomy

The Quintessential
False Dichotomy
Criticism of religion is only fair
when the critic isn't saying
"My God is better than your God'
By John Kaminski
skylax@comcast.net
10-11-5

Although I am not a practitioner of Islam, I defend Muslims because they are constantly and unfairly slandered by a vicious media spin machine attempting to create an enemy where none exists - with inflammatory prejudices from the untrustworthy lips of slithering hypocrites trying to promote the bogus authenticity of their own creed at the expense of innocent strangers who live far away and possess precious commodities coveted by others.

Although I am not a practitioner of Judaism, I defend Jews who are unfairly criticized for slyly undermining the moral character of Christian nations, when in fact the existing social oppression in these Christian nations provided the opportunity for secular Jews to persuade the public they were being needlessly enslaved by rules that only benefited the holy men who controlled them.

Although I am not a practitioner of Christianity, I defend Christians who are unfairly maligned for their pure beliefs, even though they may be based on questionable historical facts. There is no doubt that the truly believing Christian heart has the best interests of the universe as its goal, though in their rapturous piety, fundamentalist god blatherers have become silent and unknowing victims of perfidious perverts practicing exactly the opposite of what they preach - to be specific, who preach hate instead of love and back it up with instantaneous mass murder on demand.

Each of these belief systems controls the minds of significant segments of humanity's unitary consciousness, and billions of individuals are buffeted this way and that by the pronouncements of living cultural icons who are nurtured and promoted for their public roles by influential men who profit by their obedience, spreading blood like storms in every land.

By far, the most important of the Ten Commandments is "Thou shalt not kill." Why is the people who talk most about God do it to justify killing?

These homicidal robots like George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth and Ariel Sharon all operate with the supernatural sanction of the media church, and mask their crimes in hollow hymns to their own magnificence while the transfixed masses sway in Pentecostal ecstasy to the lunatic media circus triumphalizing the ravaging of our own nest.

The real problem with these systems - and all the other permutations generating every conceivable stripe of social fellowship throughout the world - is that they predicate their own value on the narcissistic necessity that they are the sole executors and operators of the one truth path. This is a pattern that guarantees ceaseless conflict for as long as the unitary mind of the species is undermined and sabotaged by the psychological need of individuals to embed themselves in a social context and strive to emulate the poisoned prescriptions of the hive mind as the most valid measure of their happiness.

Keep it simple, stupid.

We're all the same. Humans of any origin under any condition have always had the potential to become the most important person on the planet. The vast majority of humans born into this sublime paradise called Earth live their lives as decent, cooperative, sincere and principled individuals. Everyone realizes that the greatest freedom possible is for any individual to do exactly what she wants with her life.

Anybody who tells you different is either shuckin' and jivin' or he has his hand in your pocket.

So why do we have all this stupid strife?

Because it's profitable. There, in three words, is the history of the world.

And don't kid yourself - we're all signed onto this program. Luxurious leisure is what we're all after - the time to pursue who we are, because if we can do that, the rest will all fall into place. That's freedom.

Man conquered nature. I don't think it's too early to say nature will vomit up its tumors should humans continue to be so thoughtlessly toxic (although I've been saying that for 40 years). Perhaps this is the message in the rash of hurricanes that have suddenly developed as new mobilization points for the corporate war machine, assuming this new meteorological plague is not merely another government program like AIDS, fluoride, aspartame, chemtrails, white flour, and child kidnappings, not to mention thimerosal, depleted uranium, MSG, Prozac and, well, you know the list, or should, if you harbor any actualized interest in your own survival.

It seems to me we need to do things to close the gap between this artificial life that is constantly crammed down our throats - making stars on Star Search - and what we know in our inmost hearts is the right way to live, regardless of creed or tribe.

The tangible reality that underpins the context in which we live our lives that begins with our feet attached to the surface of the planet and stretches through the birth of our children and the deaths of our parents.

Though it is most important to us, it is virtually never discussed in public media. As a result the forces of shameless profit are able to kill off thousands of people at a time with sadistic stratagems, and we relegate the daily shock into a news brief to be consumed during our misprioritized leisure.

What's that about?

That we've fouled our nest is a serious understatement. We have chosen, willingly, to live in a sewer. This is directly attributable to letting profit be our real god. And we're only getting what we deserve, not to even mention that we're doing it to ourselves.

For most, children are their signature contribution to human society. But the herd doesn't run without herding - or so the Illuminati tell us, in myriad ways, from your TV sitcoms to your presidential pronouncements - so instead humanity sweeps across the planet killing practically everything in its wake, including, most especially, itself.

And we all snatch our piece of whatever pie we can master, somewhere along the line learning the bigger the pie, the better the snatch.

Where is that boundary many of us cross from getting enough to really getting enough, and in the process forgetting .... well, you probably know the tune. Maybe it's addiction to life, and we always want more.

Because if you don't know that boundary, you're not really living, not really a decent person. Soldiers and politicians should be shunned. If everyone ignored the government - because it sure ignores us - maybe it would just go away. I know, the world doesn't work that way.

And when I say, "But, it's killing us," the most common reaction is that Leave It to Beaver shrug, ballcap askew.

Religion is bondage conditioning, servitude to a bloodthirsty wraith named Yahweh who orders his robots to obliterate the victims of his robberies, and calls it holy.

And in the the trap of monotheism, the euphoric blindness of transcendental ascension engulfs us in a poisoned fog of pious ecstasy that prevents us from seeing the world clearly, and realizing that we are all just people with the same basic needs.

Worse, the powers that be nurture these nagging hatreds for the purpose of selling guns, and the men in long robes pronounce these matters "holy."

During the Catholic Inquisition, priests determined the fate of "witches" with the following process: they were hogtied, weighted with stones, and dropped in a lake. If they floated, they were guilty and put to death, all their property confiscated. If they sank to the bottom and died, they were judged innocent, but, as they were dead, all their property was confiscated.

Tell me, my friend, how is it any different today? Except that the rabbis are now rendering the verdicts. But the rule that they may kill anyone they want for any reason at all is still, as so many people know, very much in force.

And all propelled by the deceptive moneymaking operation that pits Team A versus Team B, while the puppeteers who make the rules we live by sit back, chuckling at the gore and smiling knowingly at homosexual prostitutes in the White House press corps, and count the money.

Convincing us we are different - be it through language, or custom, or religion - is the single biggest mistake ever made by the human species. Every current indicator shows this was ultimately the reason for our extinction.

John Kaminski is a writer who lives on the Gulf Coast of Florida (still sizzling with noxious fumes) who Internet essays are seen on hundreds of websites around the world. http://www.johnkaminski.com/
 
mistermain said:
We'll keep Shania, and Jim Carrey. They can have Dion, and Hockey.

spell bound by the dumbing down of America that leaves Americans
dumbfounded and not being able to answer the simple questions to life
as per Jay Leno's show
Is it any wonder when it's time to vote ,they know little about the issues.
is it any wonder that the nintendo generation, are the dumbest humans on the planet!
The dumbing down of America is not an accident .
shools teach 60% politically correct material
no wonder Americans know 0 about the world and 15% about America
no wonder that American shows like Jay Leno are funny
people of the nintendo generation are being ask questions that they know 0 about while the whole world laughs
it isnt a laughing matter but it is made into one as if it was ok to laugh at it

when ever there is no basis for comment and your faith,dogmas,incapacitates you. Americans are left only with jokes and sly remarks accusations

by all means lets debate the subject open the horizons for ways to better the situation
lets use our brains not our emotions for our re butt als
 

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Canduck,

this not bashing America my friend
it is not my article even, it is written by your fellow americans their names are on the post

Not 'bashing' because its not 'your' article? Pretty disengenuous -- you copy and paste it but then abdicate any responsibility because you didn't write it? Get serious. Its just another of your feeble demonstrations that you have no mind of your own, that all of your opinions originate with someone else, expressed more often than not, at some lunatic fringe website.

Where did you shop for your opinions before the internet?
 
It's a country that does nothing and stands for nothing. Other then a few dollars, it is asked for very little and has no real global or political pull. The only thing canada actually has other then being a punchline behind france is there time to talk **** about the US....It all they have man....LOL
 
Canuck said:
Dumbest Generation Yet -
Mindless Hive America
From David Goldman
9-27-3

The End Is At Hand...

...

During the 'competition' ...

1. None of them recognised the photo of Abraham Lincoln.

2. None of them recognised the statue of DAVID, or knew even its name, or who created it.

3. None of them recognized the symbol of the Republican Party: They all drew a blank on the BIG elephant with GOP written on its body. They did even not know what GOP means.

4. None of them could identify what the Louvre is or where it is located.

5. None of them recognised the photo of the Taj Mahal.

6. Zurich...none of them knew in what country it is in.

7. They showed the timeless photo of Clark Gable kissing Vivian Leigh in 'Gone With The Wind'. None of them recognised who 'those people' are. The woman said in disgust: "HE IS SO OLD, HE IS PROBABLY OVER FORTY!"

YES, THIS IS THE END, MISTER RENSE.

WE HAVE LOST OUR NEXT GENERATION.

THE ELDERS HAVE WON!

...

no wonder your kids carry guns ,and plant bombs in the school yards .you are educating robots with propaganda
and no wonder they know nothing
and they are stupid
Ok, I can somewhat understand not recognizing a photo of Abraham Lincoln, but the Taj Majal? I wouldn't have the first clue what it looks like if I hadn't played Sim City. Louvre and Zurich? I"m guessing France and Germany but that's just a guess. Big deal. I suppose the blonde who thought "Starkist, Chicken of the Sea" was actually chicken and not tuna is an uneducated dimwit too? What's this country coming to? No wonder our kids keep shooting each other, they aren't reading Mark Twain in school anymore!! :roll:

I could honestly care less if kids don't learn dumb facts in school that will never help them in life. Who cares if they don't know from memory where Zurich is? Teach them how to use a map and they can tell you where every major city is. Memorization is the lowest level of thought. Any idiot can memorize a bunch of stupid facts and then look like a genius on Jeapordy, but it means nothing to me. I say don't memorize what the Taj Majal looks like, instead memorize how to resolve differences in a fair and honest debate. Now that's an education you can take with you whether you go to college or not.
 
Canuck said:
The dumbing down of America is not an accident .
shools teach 60% politically correct material
no wonder Americans know 0 about the world and 15% about America
no wonder that American shows like Jay Leno are funny
people of the nintendo generation are being ask questions that they know 0 about while the whole world laughs

Hey! I'm from the Nintendo generation and so are all my friends, so I take offense. We all seem to be a good deal more inquisitive than your average Joe and we all value reason much more than dogma and complain about how stupid lots of people are. Besides, being from the Nintendo generation we have an added bonus of excellent hand-eye coordination.
 
Binary_Digit said:
Ok, I can somewhat understand not recognizing a photo of Abraham Lincoln, but the Taj Majal? I wouldn't have the first clue what it looks like if I hadn't played Sim City.
I'm guessing you are under 30?
Binary_Digit said:
Louvre and Zurich? I"m guessing France and Germany but that's just a guess. Big deal.
Actually it kind of a big deal. Zurich is in Switzerland.
Binary_Digit said:
I suppose the blonde who thought "Starkist, Chicken of the Sea" was actually chicken and not tuna is an uneducated dimwit too? What's this country coming to? No wonder our kids keep shooting each other, they aren't reading Mark Twain in school anymore!! :roll:
Sadly, there is some truth in that, although you are saying it sarcastically. Mark Twain was one of this country's greatest writers; his works reflected accurately of the times contained; he was an outspoken political writer as well as a novelist and humorist. But because his books contained the 'N' word, and, according to some bleeding hearts, portrayed both white and black races in less than flattering light, they were removed from school libraries and curriculums. But, indeed his works made it a point of showing the ignorances of those times and how they were dealt with.
Binary_Digit said:
I could honestly care less if kids don't learn dumb facts in school that will never help them in life. Who cares if they don't know from memory where Zurich is? Teach them how to use a map and they can tell you where every major city is. Memorization is the lowest level of thought. Any idiot can memorize a bunch of stupid facts and then look like a genius on Jeapordy, but it means nothing to me. I say don't memorize what the Taj Majal looks like, instead memorize how to resolve differences in a fair and honest debate. Now that's an education you can take with you whether you go to college or not.
Point is, by NOT allowing famous books, by NOT showing at least some history, including where Zurich is and what the Taj Mahal is, fair and honest debate can't happen. How can you debate world politics if you don't your Switzerland from your Germany????
As an 8th grader, I had History, Geography and Social Studies as separate classes. Now, they are contained in ONE class. As an 8th grader, I read Mark Twain, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. Now they have no clue who they are, let alone Mark Twain's real name.
I assistant taught middle school for three years. The schools only want their state test scores high. There is little to no interest in expanding a child's mind-to question what they get out of what they read. 'The Giver' is one of the dumbest books I had to sit through while teaching. It revealed nothing, bored the kids and they knew it was stupid, yet it's part of curriculums nationwide. Teachers are piled upon with bullshit paperwork that takes their time, kills their drive and turns them into repetitious robots, just so they can say they had a high-scoring class this year.
So, while you may think knowing those things means nothing because it's all 'memorized', at some point in time those things we 'memorized' in school come in handy. They are points to use in debate, in revealing knowledge of the world we live in and yes, might even win you a few bucks on Jeopardy.
 
I'm guessing you are under 30?
Actually it kind of a big deal. Zurich is in Switzerland. Sadly, there is some truth in that, although you are saying it sarcastically. Mark Twain was one of this country's greatest writers; his works reflected accurately of the times contained; he was an outspoken political writer as well as a novelist and humorist. But because his books contained the 'N' word, and, according to some bleeding hearts, portrayed both white and black races in less than flattering light, they were removed from school libraries and curriculums. But, indeed his works made it a point of showing the ignorances of those times and how they were dealt with.

How are we the dumbest class of Americans, when there are thousands more who have education than in Mark Twain's day or even yours. So we aren't memorizing facts about your era, we learn what we need to know about history, and then given the choice to pursue if we want. There is a difference with this generation, we have been taught how to research. All of those little facts you memorized, we can find that information and its history in a heartbeat and learn from it.

Not to mention most of education now is centered around mathematics, which is much more fruitful in society than memorizing lines from Mark Twain.
When I was in the 9th grade, I was doing math that my dad didn't learn until college. And as a result we have an evergrowing field of IT.

Point is, by NOT allowing famous books, by NOT showing at least some history, including where Zurich is and what the Taj Mahal is, fair and honest debate can't happen. How can you debate world politics if you don't your Switzerland from your Germany????

So when was the last time you had a debate about the location of global cities, was it part of a job interview?

As an 8th grader, I had History, Geography and Social Studies as separate classes. Now, they are contained in ONE class. As an 8th grader, I read Mark Twain, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. Now they have no clue who they are, let alone Mark Twain's real name.

It seems that with each new generation, the generation before it claims that they will bring about the ruin of the nation. And yet the nation is progressing.

I assistant taught middle school for three years. The schools only want their state test scores high. There is little to no interest in expanding a child's mind-to question what they get out of what they read. 'The Giver' is one of the dumbest books I had to sit through while teaching. It revealed nothing, bored the kids and they knew it was stupid, yet it's part of curriculums nationwide. Teachers are piled upon with bullshit paperwork that takes their time, kills their drive and turns them into repetitious robots, just so they can say they had a high-scoring class this year.
So, while you may think knowing those things means nothing because it's all 'memorized', at some point in time those things we 'memorized' in school come in handy. They are points to use in debate, in revealing knowledge of the world we live in and yes, might even win you a few bucks on Jeopardy.

I agree that standardized tests are horrible. I think we should have them but the value placed on an SAT score is ridiculous. Its sad, my friend never got a 'C' on his report card, I got one about every year b/c I had lazy spells. However, because my SAT score is much higher than his I got more scholarships, etc. However if they actually looked at his grades they would have realized that he is a much harder worker than me. I am smart, but he is willing to study for hours to make sure he does well. If I have to spend more than an hour studying to ace the test (which was usually enough) I simply wouldn't do it. Now who would be the better college choice? SAT said that it was me, but he is a much better student than I am.

Anyway, I support what Binary_Digit says, memorization does not help you, most adults don't even remember what they had to memorize in school.
 
You may not have to debate in a job, but someone says you have to get that hard copy report to Zurich or Berlin before Monday, it might come in handy to know where that is.
As for books the likes of Mark Twain, etc? They give a sense of the times they were written in.
I have no doubt about mathematics. I sure as hell can't follow how it's done now at most any level (but then again, I couldn't do well in school either with that).
No one is comparing the classes now to the 19th century. But when you have kids in schools that don't even update software, their history books still refer to the USSR as a country and the teachers don't even know how to teach without spelling wrong, there's a glitch...or ten.
You may be great at math, but if you don't know your own country's history you aren't very well-rounded or fully educated.
 
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