Your intent was to ban genetic engineer, a fact not excused simply because you are too incompetent accomplish it in practice. I have been quite consistent in speaking out against both your motivations and your ignorance.
You are the one who needs to learn about this issue. The giants holes in your bill don't require an expert to see, merely someone who is familiar with lower division college biology courses.
Your intent was to ban genetic engineer, a fact not excused simply because you are too incompetent accomplish it in practice. I have been quite consistent in speaking out against both your motivations and your ignorance.
You are the one who needs to learn about this issue. The giants holes in your bill don't require an expert to see, merely someone who is familiar with lower division college biology courses.
Well then rathi, why keep me suspending in ignorance unless ye fears democracy? I pray do tell where the language should be improved?
Enlighten us all with the good manners to back up your words with action and explanation that reach further than shots in the dark at irrelevant ghost targets...show what you know...give us your known unknowns so we can all know that what we know is at least known.
So knock out some ballot measure wording for us so we can all make the most informed decisions possible rathi...I'm not joking, lets have it if the proposal is somehow in need of such?
Isaac Asimov
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
― Isaac Asimov
I'm not highly concerned about genetic patenting. The patent system of ownership will eventually cease to exist while our creations will have natural consequences that we can't quite understand yet.
I read this interesting article today (which contains many peer reviewed sources) on how viral RNA has been found in certain GMO foods:
Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial GMO Crops
Genetic engineering holds a lot of promise but I don't think we can trust the current corporate infrastructure - who often acts psychopathically and in malign ways against humanity in seeking profits - to manage this invention. Maybe future systems could do it, but right now we are creating organisms without proper study of the long-term consequences.
The common heirloom species are being preserved in seed banks all over the world and will continue to be available to the public. The problem is the cancerous GMO species infecting heirloom crops.
I'm not highly concerned about genetic patenting. The patent system of ownership will eventually cease to exist while our creations will have natural consequences that we can't quite understand yet.
I read this interesting article today (which contains many peer reviewed sources) on how viral RNA has been found in certain GMO foods:
Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial GMO Crops
Genetic engineering holds a lot of promise but I don't think we can trust the current corporate infrastructure - who often acts psychopathically and in malign ways against humanity in seeking profits - to manage this invention. Maybe future systems could do it, but right now we are creating organisms without proper study of the long-term consequences.
The common heirloom species are being preserved in seed banks all over the world and will continue to be available to the public. The problem is the cancerous GMO species infecting heirloom crops.
You know, most people who post an endless stream of you tube videos tend to be conspiracy theorists, completely partisan and totally biased.
In general, most of us will dismiss this nonsense, as a non contribution.
You know, most people who post an endless stream of you tube videos tend to be conspiracy theorists, completely partisan and totally biased.
In general, most of us will dismiss this nonsense, as a non contribution.
No offense but your post also seems like a non-contribution.
Oh my Harry its hard to believe your still twitching out there lol and your headless twin General Custer123 seems to also still twitch (even if only in praise)...
Now what on earth did you think was gonna happen when you reached your headless hand back in here like this presumably thinkin you had the magic key to your resurrection Harry really?
Well the first thing that always happens in a case like this is...
pay close attention to every word Harry:
Then of course we should apply the law of attraction in response to your attempted distraction:
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The post above my last response is the picture perfect scenario of the naturalistic fallacy and anti vaccine/GMO hysteria.
Basically, it's totally worthless and doesn't at all support your original thesis.
Harry, I said nothing about 'right' or 'wrong' either for that mater, this is your terminology.
Nature simply inherently has all the numbers to work with and we simply as of yet don't.
The proposal posted here simply forces science where profit motives have supplanted such.
If you were really a fan of the 'facts' and science then you would surely be in support of this proposal because it demands such before allowing the 'not ready for prime time' biotech players to bungle the gene pool much as other profit motivated 'experts' in other sectors have handled the economy etc for example.
Finally Harry, to that bit you keep parroting at the end of every post...you force me to then feed you crackers...I only wield the all powerful quote of destiny again because you have brought such on yourself...I did attempt mercy and reconciliation as I am required, but that seems to have failed...I know the Occam's Razor like blade of the quote of destiny is devastating, but don't fight the urge to continue even if it is just involuntary conditioned reflex of the nervous system, much like a decapitated snakes head will still bite even though oxygen has been cut off from the brain, or how its heart will still beat and the body will still coil and strike out in reflex up to a day after its beheading.
The post above my last response is the picture perfect scenario of the naturalistic fallacy and anti vaccine/GMO hysteria.
Basically, it's totally worthless and doesn't at all support your original thesis.
Well NL thats a real let down for us both for sure, maybe you should have read this thread first?I think I posted my link in the wrong thread. There just weren't any other recent GMO topics and I didn't want to make another.
Did you mean that one Harry or did you mean this one that reflects back to your headless quote above and to which deserves another Pollyanna cracker:
I think I posted my link in the wrong thread. There just weren't any other recent GMO topics and I didn't want to make another.
Be careful with whom you ally with.
This thread is supported by nothing other than, "nature knows better."
Which is a faulty premise.
Awe but Harry, isn't it nature that in the end always has to clean up your messes because you simply don't know enough yet to know how to do so yourself?Be careful with whom you ally with.
This thread is supported by nothing other than, "nature knows better."
Which is a faulty premise.
I fully support genetic engineering to produce better food supplies. I'm always shocked by the ignorance surrounding genetic engineering.
uh ok...um...Did you not see this article that was posted by two different people in this thread:
Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial GMO Crops
Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial GMO Crops
January 21, 2013 Biotechnology, Commentaries 42 Comments
by Jonathan Latham and Allison Wilson
"How should a regulatory agency announce they have discovered something potentially very important about the safety of products they have been approving for over twenty years?
In the course of analysis to identify potential allergens in GMO crops, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has belatedly discovered that the most common genetic regulatory sequence in commercial GMOs also encodes a significant fragment of a viral gene (Podevin and du Jardin 2012). This finding has serious ramifications for crop biotechnology and its regulation, but possibly even greater ones for consumers and farmers. This is because there are clear indications that this viral gene (called Gene VI) might not be safe for human consumption. It also may disturb the normal functioning of crops, including their natural pest resistance."
Or maybe you just don't digsbe the science and lack there of = ignorance..."I'm always shocked by the ignorance surrounding genetic engineering"...yes that's exactly what I was thinking as well.
ps...you and Harry should start a science haters forum, maybe even GC123 can join up, Harry and GC123 will need a new heads first of course
uh ok...um...Did you not see this article that was posted by two different people in this thread:
Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial GMO Crops
Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial GMO Crops
January 21, 2013 Biotechnology, Commentaries 42 Comments
by Jonathan Latham and Allison Wilson
"How should a regulatory agency announce they have discovered something potentially very important about the safety of products they have been approving for over twenty years?
In the course of analysis to identify potential allergens in GMO crops, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has belatedly discovered that the most common genetic regulatory sequence in commercial GMOs also encodes a significant fragment of a viral gene (Podevin and du Jardin 2012). This finding has serious ramifications for crop biotechnology and its regulation, but possibly even greater ones for consumers and farmers. This is because there are clear indications that this viral gene (called Gene VI) might not be safe for human consumption. It also may disturb the normal functioning of crops, including their natural pest resistance."
Or maybe you just don't digsbe the science and lack there of = ignorance..."I'm always shocked by the ignorance surrounding genetic engineering"...yes that's exactly what I was thinking as well.
ps...you and Harry should start a science haters forum, maybe even GC123 can join up, Harry and GC123 will need a new heads first of course
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