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The dirty secret behind your "green" electric car

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Cobalt, nickle, copper, graphite, lithium carbonates and ions... there are finite resources for these key battery ingredients, some considered rare earth metals in context.

The sad irony of all this has multiple levels of terribleness. All the things that modern liberalism, especially European brands of liberalism, claims it stands for take a backseat to the initiative of battery powered cars.

The amount of destruction to natural environment to get to these metals is amazing up to and including harm to natural waterways and forestry. The movement of water alone in and out of these operations has permanent implications for anything downstream. Depending on where these activities occur like Bolivia, China, Republic of Congo, etc. are all seeing these foreign giants come in and dictate needs to the point of slave like labor conditions, with awful equipment and safety standards, and the employment of kids. The amount of heat and energy needed to produce an actual battery makes the effort to turn corn into ethanol look like a campfire.

Phones, devices, laptops, cars... especially battery powered cars.

Apple, Google, Microsoft, Tesla, Toyota, Nissan, Volvo, BMW, Mercedes... the list goes on.

So while you watch Hollywood elites driving around in a Prius or Tesla, snapping Instagram shots on their iPhones, drilling on and on about the environment remember that it took massive organizations with a vested interest in doing all they can to supply the demand up to and including *every single thing* they stand up in front of the UN or anyone else that gives them a platform and claim they are against.

Now none of this is an argument to burn every fossil fuel we can find as fast as we can, but it is an argument forcing the tree hugging left to admit they are only interested in the trees they can see in their backyards. Or wherever else CNN points the camera.
 

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Huh? OP link is not about MORE pollution for the green cars. It's about a single company that group people want Musk to switch from. Yes, from THAT particular company to ANOTHER company for the same materials and mining elsewhere. It's quite possible that the specific Russian company in question that had that spill is not operating safe mining operations. I don't know. But clearly OP link does NOT prove OP "fact" that PoS stated.
 
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