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In a prior thread I posted that true Liberals, Centrists, and Conservatives often share goals but simply differ on how best to reach them. That the problem with arguing with Leftist’s is that their goals are often diametrically opposed to Liberal, Centrist, and Conservative ones, thus there is little or no room for compromise.
The reaction was swift, as Members who assert that the Left and being Liberal are the same thing jumped on this with both feet, crying that I was denigrating anyone not a "Conservative."
This morning I came across another Prager U. video just this morning which points out some of the clear differences between what constitutes someone on the Left from someone who is a true Liberal.
Here are the six difference presented, for those who hate watching “propaganda” and prefer summations:
1. Race:
The Liberal Position:
a. The color of a person’s skin is insignificant, and
b. Those who believe Race is significant, are racists.
c. Liberals are committed to racial integration.
Left’s Position:
a. The attitude that Race is unimportant, is racist.
b. The Left is committed to racial segregation (ex. In colleges advocating for separate college dorms, separate graduation ceremonies, etc.).
2. Capitalism:
Liberal Position:
a. Liberals are committed to Capitalism because the support Free Enterprise and because this system lifts large numbers of people out of poverty.
b. Liberals do support a bigger government role in the economy, but never opposed capitalism in support of Socialism.
Left’s Position:
a. Opposition to Capitalism and Advocacy of Socialism.
3. Nationalism:
Liberal Position:
a. A belief in the nation-state, thus willing to protect American sovereignty and borders.
Left’s Position:
a. The world is divided by class not national identity, thus supports open borders and globalism.
4. View of America:
Liberal Position:
a. Venerate America, patriotic, America is the last, best hope of Earth.
Left’s Position:
a. America is racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, violent, and imperialistic.
5. Free Speech:
Liberal Position:
a. I wholly disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Left’s Position:
a. Identifies things they disagree with as “Hate Speech” which deserves no protection at all. In fact, it deserves punishment of some kind.
6. Western Civilization:
Liberal Position:
a. Champion Western Civilization’s moral, philosophic, artistic, musical, and literary achievements.
Left’s Position:
a. Western Civilization is no better than any other, and is just a euphemism for White Supremacy.
I hope this clears up some confusion about the differences between what I consider to be LEFT as oppsed to being LIBERAL.
The reaction was swift, as Members who assert that the Left and being Liberal are the same thing jumped on this with both feet, crying that I was denigrating anyone not a "Conservative."
This morning I came across another Prager U. video just this morning which points out some of the clear differences between what constitutes someone on the Left from someone who is a true Liberal.
Here are the six difference presented, for those who hate watching “propaganda” and prefer summations:
1. Race:
The Liberal Position:
a. The color of a person’s skin is insignificant, and
b. Those who believe Race is significant, are racists.
c. Liberals are committed to racial integration.
Left’s Position:
a. The attitude that Race is unimportant, is racist.
b. The Left is committed to racial segregation (ex. In colleges advocating for separate college dorms, separate graduation ceremonies, etc.).
2. Capitalism:
Liberal Position:
a. Liberals are committed to Capitalism because the support Free Enterprise and because this system lifts large numbers of people out of poverty.
b. Liberals do support a bigger government role in the economy, but never opposed capitalism in support of Socialism.
Left’s Position:
a. Opposition to Capitalism and Advocacy of Socialism.
3. Nationalism:
Liberal Position:
a. A belief in the nation-state, thus willing to protect American sovereignty and borders.
Left’s Position:
a. The world is divided by class not national identity, thus supports open borders and globalism.
4. View of America:
Liberal Position:
a. Venerate America, patriotic, America is the last, best hope of Earth.
Left’s Position:
a. America is racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, violent, and imperialistic.
5. Free Speech:
Liberal Position:
a. I wholly disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Left’s Position:
a. Identifies things they disagree with as “Hate Speech” which deserves no protection at all. In fact, it deserves punishment of some kind.
6. Western Civilization:
Liberal Position:
a. Champion Western Civilization’s moral, philosophic, artistic, musical, and literary achievements.
Left’s Position:
a. Western Civilization is no better than any other, and is just a euphemism for White Supremacy.
I hope this clears up some confusion about the differences between what I consider to be LEFT as oppsed to being LIBERAL.