Are you one of those "without God, we'd all be raping and killing" types? If so, that proves my point. Our species already had rules and moral laws in place forbidding murder and rape long before the Jewish religious identity was established.
OM
It had nothing to do with ritual and everything to do with respect for life, which is in the blood...
"Only flesh with its life—its blood—you must not eat." Genesis 9:4...
"Just be firmly resolved not to eat the blood, because the blood is the life, and you must not eat the life with the flesh." Deuteronomy 12:23
However, they have to add things not in the bible to come to that conclusion.. including mistranslations.
Of course not...I do believe we live in an ungodly world, though it was not always that way...the world has gotten progressively worse and continues to do so, until God sees fit to put an end to this world as we know it...Matthew 24; 2 Timothy 3:1-5; 1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Peter 3:3..
not really, the passage is quite clear that blood is not to be used for mans purposes; that as a component of life, belongs only to god. Of course, that is the jewish religious position, which christians borrowed.
Om
Genesis was reduced to writing during the Exilic period, so of course this ties in quite nicely with the priestly source in Leviticus. Deuteronomy was another attempt at redirecting their religious distinction so as to stave off cultural assimilation; this time by the neo-Assyrians. In either case, this is entirely Jewish in nature, not prophetic in the least, not applying to the Christian ideology (which didn't stop them from borrowing it for their own purposes, but still didn't apply to them - unless you're Jewish).
OM
Then you have proven my point, as human morality preexists the implementation of Judeo-Christian ideologies.
OM
Not really, the passage is quite clear that blood is not to be used for mans purposes; that as a component of life, belongs only to God. Of course, that is the Jewish religious position, which Christians borrowed.
OM
bs...
Other than just denying his claim, your 'bs' does not contribute anything. In fact, he is correct.
Considering I already told him how he was incorrect, my bs stands...for you, too...
Except,, he was right, and you were wrong.
Obvious you didn't read it. I mean, if what you were saying is true, then blood letting (a common medical practice of the time, even if it was nonsense) would have been forbidden, but it was not.
In the ancient world
A chart showing the parts of the body to be bled for different diseases, c. 1310–1320
Points for blood-letting, Hans von Gersdorff (surgeon), Field book of wound medicine, 1517
Passages from the Ebers Papyrus may indicate that bloodletting by scarification was an accepted practice in Ancient Egypt.[10][11][12] Egyptian burials have been reported to contain bloodletting instruments.[13] According to some accounts, the Egyptians based the idea on their observations of the Hippopotamus,[14] confusing its red sweat with blood, and believing that it scratched itself to relieve distress.[15][16]
In Greece, bloodletting was in use in the fifth century BC during the lifetime of Hippocrates, who mentions this practice but generally relied on dietary techniques.[17] Erasistratus, however, theorized that many diseases were caused by plethoras, or overabundances, in the blood and advised that these plethoras be treated, initially, by exercise, sweating, reduced food intake, and vomiting.[18] Herophilus advocated bloodletting. Archagathus, one of the first Greek physicians to practice in Rome, also believed in the value of bloodletting.
"Bleeding" a patient to health was modeled on the process of menstruation. Hippocrates believed that menstruation functioned to "purge women of bad humours". During the Roman Empire, the Greek physician Galen, who subscribed to the teachings of Hippocrates, advocated physician-initiated bloodletting.[19]
The popularity of bloodletting in the classical Mediterranean world was reinforced by the ideas of Galen, after he discovered that not only veins but also arteries were filled with blood, not air as was commonly believed at the time.[citation needed] There were two key concepts in his system of bloodletting. The first was that blood was created and then used up; it did not circulate, and so it could "stagnate" in the extremities. The second was that humoral balance was the basis of illness or health, the four humours being blood, phlegm, black bile, and yellow bile, relating to the four Greek classical elements of air, water, earth, and fire respectively. Galen believed that blood was the dominant humour and the one in most need of control. In order to balance the humours, a physician would either remove "excess" blood (plethora) from the patient or give them an emetic to induce vomiting, or a diuretic to induce urination.
Galen created a complex system of how much blood should be removed based on the patient's age, constitution, the season, the weather and the place. "Do-it-yourself" bleeding instructions following these systems were developed.[20] Symptoms of plethora were believed to include fever, apoplexy, and headache. The blood to be let was of a specific nature determined by the disease: either arterial or venous, and distant or close to the area of the body affected. He linked different blood vessels with different organs, according to their supposed drainage. For example, the vein in the right hand would be let for liver problems and the vein in the left hand for problems with the spleen. The more severe the disease, the more blood would be let. Fevers required copious amounts of bloodletting.
And for anyone interested...blood letting was NOT a practice of the Israelites but was a common pagan practice...Jehovah God would never approve of His people practicing such a thing...
Bloodletting - Wikipedia
The Bible tells us how Jehovah God felt about pagan practices of the Egyptians...they were something detestable to him...Exodus 7:11-13, 22; 8:7; 2 Timothy 3:8...
If you look at the Exodus references, you will find that blood letting is not mentioned. Nor is judaism mentioned at all in the article
Howver, here it's given reference in the talmud
Bloodletting
Don't really care what the talmud said, it was forbidden by the Israelite's God, Jehovah...period...it was a useless and sometimes deadly practice...
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If that were true, then the blood letting, which was a common practice of the time would not have been allowed. Then, of course, there was the principle in Jewish society that the saving of a life overrides almost all other restrictions..
Considering I already told him how he was incorrect, my bs stands...for you, too...
Which blood-letting? I'd be interested to see that from a biblical perspective.
OM
Which blood-letting? I'd be interested to see that from a biblical perspective.
OM
Ah, the Talmud. That explains it. Unfortunately that is blatant Mishnaic Judaism; out on the fringe. Even my Levite mentor rejected it.
OM
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