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Since this is the appropriate thread to do this....
did you know Israeli soldiers have broken the arms of children throwing stones at the soldiers patrolling the occupied land they used to live on?
Buddy, a few forums below there is a forum called "The conspiracy theories forum" where you can spew your blood libels and hatred as much as you'd like to.
You can actually set your shop there and sell T-shirts with demonzing labels against Israel and the IDF, it'd make a great profit.
A female soldier in Sachlav Military Police unit, stationed in Hebron, recalled a Palestinian child that would systematically provoke the soldiers by hurling stones at them and other such actions. One time he even managed to scare a soldier who fell from his post and broke his leg.
Retaliation came soon after: "I don't know who or how, but I know that two of our soldiers put him in a jeep, and that two weeks later the kid was walking around with casts on both arms and legs…they talked about it in the unit quite a lot – about how they sat him down and put his hand on the chair and simply broke it right there on the chair."
Even small children did not escape arbitrary acts of violence, said a Border Guard female officer serving near the separation fence: "We caught a five-year-old…can't remember what he did…we were taking him back to the territories or something, and the officers just picked him up, slapped him around and put him in the jeep. The kid was crying and the officer next to me said 'don't cry' and started laughing at him. Finally the kid cracked a smile – and suddenly the officer gave him a punch in the stomach. Why? 'Don't laugh in my face' he said."
Do some research next time you feel the need to hurl accusations:
Female soldiers break their silence - Israel News, Ynetnews
Buddy, a few forums below there is a forum called "The conspiracy theories forum" where you can spew your blood libels and hatred as much as you'd like to.
You can actually set your shop there and sell T-shirts with demonzing labels against Israel and the IDF, it'd make a great profit.
Prove that the witness testimonies are fabricated. This is not the first time it has been reported that IDF border soldiers routinely torture and humiliate Palestinians.The Breaking the silence organization is an Israeli "NGO" organization with an anti-government political agenda.
The "witnesses accounts" it says it gives are anonymous, meaning that the people behind them cannot be questioned by actual authorities and leaving not much room for doubt that those accounts are mostly, (if not all) fabricated.
Therefore simply basing a statement that claims soldiers break hands of people in borders on an anti-goverment organization claim does not spare it the benefits of being a demonizing and blood libeling statement.
Actually it's quite necessary......
If I could only find that photo with the bullseye on the ambulance [I Ahh heres one of the bullseye ambulances cropped. Great aim.
I have nothing intellectual to add, its really not even necessary.
I said, and let me quote myself, that the fact that the witnesses accounts are given by anonymous folks, means that those folks cannot be questioned and hence the accounts cannot be clarified, leaving no room for doubt that the accounts are mostly, if not all, fabricated.Prove that the witness testimonies are fabricated.
I'm sure it isn't.This is not the first time it has been reported that IDF border soldiers routinely torture and humiliate Palestinians.
In other words, you simply want a link to their web-site?Prove that Breaking the Silence is anti-government.
Actually its their baseless accusations, that you're aligning with, that we have "more of" here.Otherwise we just have more of your baseless accusations.
I.....I.... CANNOT ..... BELIEVE..... (T_T)
Sorry if I'm out of line. its just that seeing videos of dead families in their vans, children having their arms broken, and hospital vehicles with their red crosses used as bullseyes for Israeli air to surface fire.... it just really makes me not like Israel's military. Is that weird of me or something? Anyways the video with Israelis attempting to break the arms of children is on the "if americans knew" video nowadays or something like that.
If I could only find that photo with the bullseye on the ambulanceAhh heres one of the bullseye ambulances cropped. Great aim.
I have nothing intellectual to add, its really not even necessary.
Therefore simply basing a statement that claims soldiers break hands of people in borders on an anti-goverment organization claim does not spare it the benefits of being a demonizing and blood libeling statement.
Actually it's quite necessary.
The infamous Ambulance photo is probably a Fraud/"Pallywood" like Scores of other pictures from the 2006 Lebanon war:
ambulance picture red cross hoax - Google Search
Well yeah I know how impossible it is for some to even suggest that a person would fabricate evidence to promote his political agenda.So just like the video I posted of the IDF pot shot sniping farmers... fabricated... by 'anti-government' forces.
No, it's completely legal to be anti-government, but it doesn't score you credibility when you post an anonymous person's "account" saying that soldiers have tortured people.Also, try and clarify what you wrote in the quote above. Essentially you're saying that this is an anti-government statement and must be policed or something? Is that some sort of 'dissent is illegal' and you cant quite type it kindof thing?
Please feel free to bury your head, the level of denial you express may be indicative that this information is dangerous enough to your worldview to be psychologically unhealthy for you.
Actually it's quite necessary.
The infamous Ambulance photo is probably a Fraud/"Pallywood" like Scores of other pictures from the 2006 Lebanon war:
ambulance picture red cross hoax - Google Search
Well yeah I know how impossible it is for some to even suggest that a person would fabricate evidence to promote his political agenda.
Uh-ah, yes, now keep posting those ambulance pictures claiming that the IDF is eating Palestinian babies.
They are not anonymous. Anonymous implies that no one knows who these people are and that is disingenuous. Breaking the Silence was founded by IDF veterans and each soldier's rank, unit, and location is recorded with their testimony.I said, and let me quote myself, that the fact that the witnesses accounts are given by anonymous folks, means that those folks cannot be questioned and hence the accounts cannot be clarified, leaving no room for doubt that the accounts are mostly, if not all, fabricated.
Read some of the testimonies... Some have already tried getting it reported to higher authorities, only to be shunned, ignored, or reassigned.If they were interested in their one-sided justice they would be giving those accounts to the authorities of the law, and not to some group that would publish it on their anti-government website. Period.
I'm sure it isn't.
Valid proof that they are against the government of Israel no matter what.In other words, you simply want a link to their web-site?
Attempting to avoid the burden of proof for some claim by demanding proof of the contrary from whoever questions that claim.Actually its their baseless accusations, that you're aligning with, that we have "more of" here.
They are anonymous because their identities are kept unknown.They are not anonymous. Anonymous implies that no one knows who these people are and that is disingenuous. Breaking the Silence was founded by IDF veterans and each soldier's rank, unit, and location is recorded with their testimony.
So they say in their testimonies, that doesn't mean that this is not fabricated as well.Read some of the testimonies... Some have already tried getting it reported to higher authorities, only to be shunned, ignored, or reassigned.
What do you mean with "no matter what"?Valid proof that they are against the government of Israel no matter what.
The burden of proof, IIRC, is on the one making the assertions.Attempting to avoid the burden of proof for some claim by demanding proof of the contrary from whoever questions that claim.
This is what we call demanding negative proof.
Prove that the witness testimonies are fabricated.
I concede the ambulance bombing I guess. Point against me. :shame: