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The Communists Love Hillary, Sanders, Kaine... In their own words.

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The Communists... don’t just like Hillary and Bernie. The party also gave a big thumbs-up to Clinton’s running mate, Tim Kaine.

“Back in the day when Stalinists Gus Hall and Angela Davis were regularly nominated by the party as presidential and vice presidential candidates every four years, the U.S. Communists actually had beefs with the Democrats,” he said. “But, in recent years, the party ceased those efforts in favor of a united front with the Democrats, with whom they have very few differences, if any.”

Read more at Communist Party unites behind Hillary

And there you have it, in their own words...

Anyone listening to these clowns over the years and has been able to add 1 + 1 realizes... The Demokrats... The Socialists of Amerika Partei (SAPs)... Are little different from the Communist Party in their goals.
 

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And there you have it, in their own words...

Anyone listening to these clowns over the years and has been able to add 1 + 1 realizes... The Demokrats... The Socialists of Amerika Partei (SAPs)... Are little different from the Communist Party in their goals.

And the American Nazi party supports Trump.

What's your point?
 

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Welp, thread's over. Have a good day, people!

Deuce... Nobody will point at Leftists and their glib replies and identify them as clear, honest thinkers.

1. The Communists share an ideology with the modern Left. They have similar, if not identical goals. The beauty is Sanders revealed the modern Left is over-polluted with a bunch of Socialists.

The more government can take... And control... The better.

2. Nazis, their origination is Socialist in orientation... National Socialists to be precise. Republicans do not share their idiocy, we do not embrace their idiocy, and they do not in any way represent our ideology.

Communists, by their own admission have seen the modern Left come around to their way of demented thinking.

Put that in your pipe and toke it.
 

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Deuce... Nobody will point at Leftists and their glib replies and identify them as clear, honest thinkers.

1. The Communists share an ideology with the modern Left. They have similar, if not identical goals. The beauty is Sanders revealed the modern Left is over-polluted with a bunch of Socialists.

The more government can take... And control... The better.

2. Nazis, their origination is Socialist in orientation... National Socialists to be precise. Republicans do not share their idiocy, we do not embrace their idiocy, and they do not in any way represent our ideology.

Communists, by their own admission have seen the modern Left come around to their way of demented thinking.

Put that in your pipe and toke it.

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Do not fear komrade Zimmer.

The glorious communist Democratic Party is here to bring you gay marriage using the sword of Islam.

All glory to the dear leader, Hillary Stalin Hitler Abdullah Mohammed Clinton!



Allahu Akbar!
 

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Do not fear komrade Zimmer.

The glorious communist Democratic Party is here to bring you gay marriage using the sword of Islam.

All glory to the dear leader, Hillary Stalin Hitler Abdullah Mohammed Clinton!

Allahu Akbar!

Ahhhhh... It's one of your better efforts at deflection... And it might work on some of the most novice debaters, and without doubt will win great kudo's from dimwitted Leftists... But...

Communists have no beefs with the modern Left. You've grown... Into a party the Commi's have no problems with. Congratulations... I guess.

You're a bunch of Socialists, as I've noted for some years now.

Unfortunately for those in your party, Sanders didn't have a chance against the Socialists internally rigged game... Which is pretty Communist in nature dontcha think?
 
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So I am assuming you are intelligent enough to spot the differences, correct?

First of all, we on the right did not have a member of the Nazi Party caucusing with us like the Socialist Sanders has been doing with the Democrats. Socialism being only communism lite. Secondly, the Esquire article says and I quote, the "American Nazi Party chairman Rocky Suhayda essentially endorsing Trump and saying a Trump victory would be "a real opportunity" for white nationalists to unite and become more public with their views." Sorry, essentially endorsing is not synonymous with actually endorsing, so you have that as well.

Third, the guy does have a point in that the Democrat party does encourage people to split off into groups seeking special favors. The Black Caucus in Congress, as mentioned in the article, is one of those. The idea that there is a Black Miss America Pageant, Black Colleges, Black Entertainment Television in a society that is, especially by historical liberal advocacy, supposed to be color blind, right? Seems a little over the top, doesn't it. And if so, these white promoting groups should also be included, right? I do not advocate for them, but out of a general sense of fairness I would think they might have a point and would think, since liberals enjoy dividing people instead of bringing us all together under the banner of Americans... and so do opt rather for the hyphenated-Americans of choice like these people are desiring. At least the client groups promoted by the Democrat Party, so that this would/should be something appealing to and applauded by your side. Right?

But somehow the Democratic party tries to leave out these white people wanting to be treated the same as their counterparts in the Democrat Party. We know why the Republicans don't desire them, but what gives with the Democrats... seems like a match, doesn't it?
 
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Deuce... Nobody will point at Leftists and their glib replies and identify them as clear, honest thinkers.

1. The Communists share an ideology with the modern Left. They have similar, if not identical goals. The beauty is Sanders revealed the modern Left is over-polluted with a bunch of Socialists.

The more government can take... And control... The better.

2. Nazis, their origination is Socialist in orientation... National Socialists to be precise. Republicans do not share their idiocy, we do not embrace their idiocy, and they do not in any way represent our ideology.

Communists, by their own admission have seen the modern Left come around to their way of demented thinking.

Put that in your pipe and toke it.

American Nazi party is voting Trump, not Clinton.

Nazis were about as socialist as the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea is any of those things.
 

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So I am assuming you are intelligent enough to spot the differences, correct?

First of all, we on the right did not have a member of the Nazi Party caucusing with us like the Socialist Sanders has been doing with the Democrats. Socialism being only communism lite. Secondly, the Esquire article says and I quote, the "American Nazi Party chairman Rocky Suhayda essentially endorsing Trump and saying a Trump victory would be "a real opportunity" for white nationalists to unite and become more public with their views." Sorry, essentially endorsing is not synonymous with actually endorsing, so you have that as well.

Third, the guy does have a point in that the Democrat party does encourage people to split off into groups seeking special favors. The Black Caucus in Congress, as mentioned in the article, is one of those. The idea that there is a Black Miss America Pageant, Black Colleges, Black Entertainment Television in a society that is, especially by historical liberal advocacy, supposed to be color blind, right? Seems a little over the top, doesn't it. And if so, these white promoting groups should also be included, right? I do not advocate for them, but out of a general sense of fairness I would think they might have a point and would think, since liberals enjoy dividing people instead of bringing us all together under the banner of Americans... and so do opt rather for the hyphenated-Americans of choice like these people are desiring. At least the client groups promoted by the Democrat Party, so that this would/should be something appealing to and applauded by your side. Right?

But somehow the Democratic party tries to leave out these white people wanting to be treated the same as their counterparts in the Democrat Party. We know why the Republicans don't desire them, but what gives with the Democrats... seems like a match, doesn't it?

That's an awful lot of gymnastics required to explain why it's damning for communists to support Clinton but not damning for literal Nazis to support Trump.
 

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And there you have it, in their own words...

Anyone listening to these clowns over the years and has been able to add 1 + 1 realizes... The Demokrats... The Socialists of Amerika Partei (SAPs)... Are little different from the Communist Party in their goals.
So, per YOUR "Logic" the GOP are aligned with the Nazi Party since they support Trump. Hmmmm, me thinks you are just reaching again, when will you ever learn.......................:roll:
 

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That's an awful lot of gymnastics required to explain why it's damning for communists to support Clinton but not damning for literal Nazis to support Trump.
Yeah, well...just so that nobody gets confused, I don't mind spelling it out for the declared and undeclared libs out there.

I am guessing your only real complaint is that I explained it too fully, eh? But you cannot find a crack to even wedge into, to attack, huh?

So, what you are in effect saying, is, "Well done, Gaugingcatenate... as your name implies, you lined up the points and delivered the valued goods."

Thanks Deuce, nice of you to say so.
 

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Yeah, well...just so that nobody gets confused, I don't mind spelling it out for the declared and undeclared libs out there.

I am guessing your only real complaint is that I explained it too fully, eh? But you cannot find a crack to even wedge into, to attack, huh?

So, what you are in effect saying, is, "Well done, Gaugingcatenate... as your name implies, you lined up the points and delivered the valued goods."

Thanks Deuce, nice of you to say so.

Now he's literally making up his own conversation. I don't know how to respond to someone who is hallucinating.
 

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American Nazi party is voting Trump, not Clinton.

Nazis were about as socialist as the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea is any of those things.

It's a lost cause to try to debate with anyone who thinks that the fact that their name for their party includes the words "National Socialists" means that they are, in fact, leftists.
 

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It's a lost cause to try to debate with anyone who thinks that the fact that their name for their party includes the words "National Socialists" means that they are, in fact, leftists.

Denial is the worst form of debate. All the Nazi party did is consistent with the leftist agenda, .... until Hitler went off the deep end.

But that is how leftist governments always end, in fascism and ruin.
 

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Denial is the worst form of debate. All the Nazi party did is consistent with the leftist agenda, .... until Hitler went off the deep end.

But that is how leftist governments always end, in fascism and ruin.

Fascism and socialism aren't even ideologically compatible. These words mean things and you're using them wrong. Don't worry, you're not the only one who uses fascism as a synonym for "authoritarian."
 

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Fascism and socialism aren't even ideologically compatible. These words mean things and you're using them wrong.

Nanny States always end up fascist. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
 

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Nanny States always end up fascist. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

No, they don't, because that's not what fascism is.

If I gave you a generalized version of fascist platforms, you'd probably respond with "Republican party" as long as I didn't use words like "extreme."

That word has a more specific meaning than "authoritarian," and you're not the only one who makes this mistake.
 

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Now he's literally making up his own conversation. I don't know how to respond to someone who is hallucinating.
So now you have an understanding of what it like to talk to a lib then, eh? Disclosed and undisclosed libs.


By the way, go ahead give us what your definition of fascism is, I will be interested to see.
 

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It's a lost cause to try to debate with anyone who thinks that the fact that their name for their party includes the words "National Socialists" means that they are, in fact, leftists.
Lot more to it than that, but a good place to start... then the histories of two fascists, Benito and Adolf, see from whence they came.
 

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Lot more to it than that, but a good place to start... then the histories of two fascists, Benito and Adolf, see from whence they came.

Socialism describes an economic system.

Fascist describes a governmental system.

People who say that the inclusion of "National Socialists" in the party-self description means Nazis were on the left either do not know or are lying about this fundamental fact - a fact so fundamental that it should be known before one attempts to speak of economies or governments.



(Nevermind that the Third Reich did not have a particularly socialist economy. Note: Socialism is government ownership of the means of production)
 

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So now you have an understanding of what it like to talk to a lib then, eh? Disclosed and undisclosed libs.


By the way, go ahead give us what your definition of fascism is, I will be interested to see.

A couple core aspects of fascism involve ultranationalism, and putting the military up on a pedestal.

Now, since you guys screech every single day that those darn liberals just hate America, we can't possibly be ultranationalist, right?
 

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Socialism describes an economic system.

Fascist describes a governmental system.

People who say that the inclusion of "National Socialists" in the party-self description means Nazis were on the left either do not know or are lying about this fundamental fact - a fact so fundamental that it should be known before one attempts to speak of economies or governments.



(Nevermind that the Third Reich did not have a particularly socialist economy. Note: Socialism is government ownership of the means of production)
You are only flat out wrong about socialism, its both a political as well as an economic system.

And while right wing and left wing are different than how we interpret them here in the US, both Mussolini and Hitler rose up out of the European left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

"In 1912 Mussolini was the leading member of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party (PSI). Prior to 1914 he was a keen supporter of the Socialist International, starting the series of meetings in Switzerland[6] that organised the communist revolutions and insurrections that swept through Europe from 1917." Hell, he was even the editor of leading Italian Socialist newspaper, Avanti,

Hitler was similarly out of the left. He used a kind of community professional people's socialism/ corporatism with much influence by government of the direction of the economy. Fascism is much harder to describe accurately or all inclusively.

It seems you are lacking the pertinent histories, though, minimum.
 

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A couple core aspects of fascism involve ultranationalism, and putting the military up on a pedestal.

Now, since you guys screech every single day that those darn liberals just hate America, we can't possibly be ultranationalist, right?

Not all liberalism is exactly the same. I would say fascism would be more similar to communism, with the idea of total control of the economy by governmental/party influence, and of course its totalitarian nature. Communism was internationalism rather nationalism... but they are far and away more similar to each other than to capitalism and democracy.

You will note that both the leading Communist nations [ USSR and PRC], as well as the leading Fascist nations [ Germany and Italy] were all very militaristic, with the leaders of all four generally wearing some sort of military uniform as their general attire.
 

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Not all liberalism is exactly the same. I would say fascism would be more similar to communism, with the idea of total control of the economy by governmental/party influence, and of course its totalitarian nature. Communism was internationalism rather nationalism... but they are far and away more similar to each other than to capitalism and democracy.

You will note that both the leading Communist nations [ USSR and PRC], as well as the leading Fascist nations [ Germany and Italy] were all very militaristic, with the leaders of all four generally wearing some sort of military uniform as their general attire.

:lamo

Fascism's economic policies are absolutely not compatible with communism. It's literally a polar opposite: championing the work and success of the individual, specifically declaring profit to be private. Fascists believed you should have separate social classes. They were militaristic corporatists.

Read the **** up on fascism, dude. You're pulling stuff out of your ass.
 

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You are only flat out wrong about socialism, its both a political as well as an economic system.

And while right wing and left wing are different than how we interpret them here in the US, both Mussolini and Hitler rose up out of the European left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

"In 1912 Mussolini was the leading member of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party (PSI). Prior to 1914 he was a keen supporter of the Socialist International, starting the series of meetings in Switzerland[6] that organised the communist revolutions and insurrections that swept through Europe from 1917." Hell, he was even the editor of leading Italian Socialist newspaper, Avanti,

Hitler was similarly out of the left. He used a kind of community professional people's socialism/ corporatism with much influence by government of the direction of the economy. Fascism is much harder to describe accurately or all inclusively.

It seems you are lacking the pertinent histories, though, minimum.

You're conflating a label with a concept.

The concept has been explained to you.
 
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