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The Candidate who Really is Dumber than a Fifth Grader

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Just when you thought the level of ignorance has reached its apex, the Donald comes out with an even more ridiculous comment than the one which left you shaking you head only minutes before.

Check this out.

A President Donald Trump might push for Americans accused of terrorism to be tried in military tribunal at the U.S. Navy base in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, the Republican nominee told the Miami Herald on Thursday.

“I would say they could be tried there, that would be fine,” Trump said in a brief interview ahead of his speech to home builders in Miami Beach.

Under current federal law, it’s illegal to try U.S. citizens at military commissions.

Read more here: Trump says Americans charged with terrorism could be tried in Guantanamo | Miami Herald
 

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Just when you thought the level of ignorance has reached its apex, the Donald comes out with an even more ridiculous comment than the one which left you shaking you head only minutes before.

Check this out.

Well it's apparently legal to kill them with a drone when they aren't an immediate threat...
 

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Just when you thought the level of ignorance has reached its apex, the Donald comes out with an even more ridiculous comment than the one which left you shaking you head only minutes before.

Check this out.

This isn't even suprising. It's Donald ****ing Trump.

Every five minutes he says something stupid or outrageous.
 

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Just when you thought the level of ignorance has reached its apex, the Donald comes out with an even more ridiculous comment than the one which left you shaking you head only minutes before.

Check this out.

Without a transcript of the entire interview, an edited 1:07 video is worthless. At this point, the Miami Herald has not made such a transcript available. So, nothing can be determined, other than another in a long list of dog whistles has been sounded.
 

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Well it's apparently legal to kill them with a drone when they aren't an immediate threat...

It's also not an act of war to kill people in other countries if there is no boots on the ground - Obama logic.

Yes, Obama actually said without even realizing it that Japan did not commit an act of war by bombing pearl harbor.
 

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Well it's apparently legal to kill them with a drone when they aren't an immediate threat...

American citizens in the US? :shock:
 

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American citizens in the US? :shock:

American citizens not in the US for sure, unknown about whether it would be legal in the US. But there is clearly a precedent for treating terrorist "citizens" like combatants. Trump has said a lot of dumb things but this isn't one of them.
 

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It's also not an act of war to kill people in other countries if there is no boots on the ground - Obama logic.

Yes, Obama actually said without even realizing it that Japan did not commit an act of war by bombing pearl harbor.

Yeah, they did........ It's pretty ****ing obvious that they did commit an act of war, as a matter of fact.
 

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American citizens not in the US for sure, unknown about whether it would be legal in the US. But there is clearly a precedent for treating terrorist "citizens" like combatants. Trump has said a lot of dumb things but this isn't one of them.

You can kill an American who is fighting with the enemy, either here or abroad. I have no problem with that. We legally kill Americans who attack cops and/or citizens all the time. You can't try an American civilian in military court though. Even a 5th grader knows that.
 

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You can kill an American who is fighting with the enemy, either here or abroad. I have no problem with that. We legally kill Americans who attack cops and/or citizens all the time. You can't try an American civilian in military court though. Even a 5th grader knows that.

We don't kill them while they are at a cafe eating dinner
 

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We don't kill them while they are at a cafe eating dinner

They killed Dillinger when he left a movie theater, and blasted Bonnie and Clyde straight to hell while they drove down a country lane.
 

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This isn't even suprising. It's Donald ****ing Trump.

Every five minutes he says something stupid or outrageous.

Almost as often as Clinton gets a contribution to her foundation from people that hate America.
 

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They killed Dillinger when he left a movie theater, and blasted Bonnie and Clyde straight to hell while they drove down a country lane.

So you think that behavior is still acceptable for law enforcement?
 

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So you think that behavior is still acceptable for law enforcement?

For enemies of the state who pose a direct threat to its people? Yes.

We don't do it often, but doing so is sometimes quite justified. Remember the cop killer in Dallas, the one we killed with the robot bomb? Justified.
 

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That's citizens fighting against US soldiers outside of the US. Actually, that's not at all what Trump was referring to. He specifically said "terrorism," which clearly implies domestic terrorism. Terror committed by rogue Americans in other countries would be handled by law enforcement or the military in those countries.
 

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That's citizens fighting against US soldiers outside of the US. Actually, that's not at all what Trump was referring to. He specifically said "terrorism," which clearly implies domestic terrorism. Terror committed by rogue Americans in other countries would be handled by law enforcement or the military in those countries.

where was that defined?

Enemy combatant can be domestic as far as I understand the term.
 

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Yeah, they did........ It's pretty ****ing obvious that they did commit an act of war, as a matter of fact.

Not according to the logic Obama put out there. To him unless you have boots on the ground there is no act of war, which means, you can bomb the **** out of people, hell, nuke their asses, and according to the logic Obama crapped out of his face no act of war occurred.
 

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Just when you thought the level of ignorance has reached its apex, the Donald comes out with an even more ridiculous comment than the one which left you shaking you head only minutes before.

Check this out.

Of all the things Trump has said, this seems to be fairly insignificant. NOt sure what evidence you have that 5th graders know this or why it is you think a businessman with no legal education would know it. Seems to me that you are just piling on at this point with a non issue. But so long as you brought it up, which Obama is dumber than a 5th grader--the Obama that said he could not legally change immigration law or the Obama who said he could?
 

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Of all the things Trump has said, this seems to be fairly insignificant. NOt sure what evidence you have that 5th graders know this or why it is you think a businessman with no legal education would know it. Seems to me that you are just piling on at this point with a non issue. But so long as you brought it up, which Obama is dumber than a 5th grader--the Obama that said he could not legally change immigration law or the Obama who said he could?

The one who said there were 57 states.
 

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where was that defined?

Enemy combatant can be domestic as far as I understand the term.

The closest we have to defining an American citizen who is an enemy combatant on US soil is treason, rebelling or giving aid to the enemy. Treason et al by civilians is tried in criminal court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_parte_Milligan
....a U.S. Supreme Court case that ruled the application of military tribunals to citizens when civilian courts are still operating is unconstitutional. In this particular case the Court was unwilling to give President Abraham Lincoln's administration the power of military commission jurisdiction, part of the administration's controversial plan to deal with Union dissenters during the American Civil War.

We also have some exceptions to the ban on civilian's being tried in military court, like during times of Martial Law. But, even there, the hurdles are high.
http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1309&context=faculty_scholarship

It's quite clear that Trump is extremely ignorant on matters pertaining to US law, probably the most ignorant man ever to run for the US presidency on a major ticket. Man, that does say a lot about those morons who voted for him.
 
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The one who said there were 57 states.

Of all the things Trump has said, this seems to be fairly insignificant. NOt sure what evidence you have that 5th graders know this or why it is you think a businessman with no legal education would know it. Seems to me that you are just piling on at this point with a non issue. But so long as you brought it up, which Obama is dumber than a 5th grader--the Obama that said he could not legally change immigration law or the Obama who said he could?
BTW: What you call "insignificant" is, and this is quite clear, absolute proof that Trump is extremely ignorant on matters pertaining to US law, probably the most ignorant man ever to run for the US presidency on a major ticket.

And, it appears the general voting public is well aware of that fact.

This is where current polls indicate we sit right now.
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I suspect that, before all is said and done, this picture will morph into something that looks more like this:
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Not according to the logic Obama put out there. To him unless you have boots on the ground there is no act of war, which means, you can bomb the **** out of people, hell, nuke their asses, and according to the logic Obama crapped out of his face no act of war occurred.

The United States didn't invite Japan to conduct bombing raids against insurgents in their territory who are seeking to overthrow the US government last time I checked.
 

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The closest we have to defining an American citizen who is an enemy combatant on US soil is treason, rebelling or giving aid to the enemy. Treason et al by civilians is tried in criminal court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_parte_Milligan


We also have some exceptions to the ban on civilian's being tried in military court, like during times of Martial Law. But, even there, the hurdles are high.
http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1309&context=faculty_scholarship

It's quite clear that Trump is extremely ignorant on matters pertaining to US law, probably the most ignorant man ever to run for the US presidency on a major ticket. Man, that does say a lot about those morons who voted for him.

Well Justice Calamity, the Conveniently Literal Left certainly turns itself into pretzels to push these desperate narratives. I find it interesting that after two days, the Miami Herald still has not provided transcripts of the interview they had with Trump.

Rather than depend on implication in the dog whistle headline of your thread, or on the MH's banner created from a prayer they will get some attention, people properly inoculated against the viral disease known as the media can get to the truth.

After watching the video, and reading the carefully edited commentary attached, one can see the following:

Trump defined who he was talking about:

“I want to make sure that if we have radical Islamic terrorists, we have a very safe place to keep them,” he said. President Barack Obama, he added, is “allowing people to get out that are terrible people.”

Read more here: Trump says Americans charged with terrorism could be tried in Guantanamo | Miami Herald

Second, the reporter asked this:

“Would you try to get the military commissions — the trial court there — to try U.S. citizens?” a reporter asked.

Read more here: Trump says Americans charged with terrorism could be tried in Guantanamo | Miami Herald

His answer:

“Well, I know that they want to try them in our regular court systems, and I don’t like that at all. I don’t like that at all,” he said. “I would say they could be tried there, that would be fine.”

Read more here: Trump says Americans charged with terrorism could be tried in Guantanamo | Miami Herald


Taking from your link to Duke, you stated the following:

"We also have some exceptions to the ban on civilian's being tried in military court, like during times of Martial Law. But, even there, the hurdles are high."​


So your Honor, could you explain how Trump is dumber than a 5th grader, when in the end you admitted it is possible to try a civilian US Citizen in a Military Court? Could you also explain why you ignored the other circumstances a US Citizen could be tried in Military Court, outside of Martial Law, that were detailed in the PDF you linked to?

Could you point, your Honor, to any qualifier Trump made in his answer to the reporter in regards to what these US Citizens were doing when caught, or who they were working for?

Could you identify words in Trump's answer that indicate he specifically would approve of any average US Citizen aiding and abetting Islamic Terrorists to be tried in Military Court in Guantanamo?
 
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