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The California state surplus is now $68 Billion. But the gas tax will still RISE by three more cents a gallon.

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Let the other states beware, this is the result of one party communist run, state politics. More and more and more and more and more tax hikes. More hotels for the junkies? Teaching our kids communist filth? Free stuff for murdering gang members? Unbelievable crime rates? The literal breakdown of society? It's happening right now in the "golden state".
These idiots won't stop the insanity. It's a diabolical religion for them.
Vote them out NOW! As soon as possible.
 

The California state surplus is now $68 Billion. But the gas tax will still RISE by three more cents a gallon.​



Good. It should go up even higher, and in every other state too. Gas has been way too cheap, and for way too long.
 
Good. It should go up even higher, and in every other state too. Gas has been way too cheap, and for way too long.
Ok, I'll bite - why has gas been "too cheap, and for way too long?"
 
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3 cents!

That’s communism commies!
 
Paying off their State debt? It's class warfare I tell you!
 
Let the other states beware, this is the result of one party communist run, state politics. More and more and more and more and more tax hikes. More hotels for the junkies? Teaching our kids communist filth? Free stuff for murdering gang members? Unbelievable crime rates? The literal breakdown of society? It's happening right now in the "golden state".
These idiots won't stop the insanity. It's a diabolical religion for them.
Vote them out NOW! As soon as possible.

What's wrong with a surplus? Y'all were screaming about a CA debt a couple yrs ago. Everybody keeps jumping on CA. But it's still the #5 economy in the world and #6 per capita in the states (red states are the lowest). What's wrong with that?
 

The California state surplus is now $68 Billion. But the gas tax will still RISE by three more cents a gallon.​



Good. It should go up even higher, and in every other state too. Gas has been way too cheap, and for way too long.
God I hope democrats run on this platform for the next few elections
 
What's wrong with a surplus? Y'all were screaming about a CA debt a couple yrs ago. Everybody keeps jumping on CA. But it's still the #5 economy in the world and #6 per capita in the states (red states are the lowest). What's wrong with that?
California is not the “number 5 economy in the world”. This is absurd. California is only rich by access to the rest of America.
 
68 billion surplus? That sure buys a lot of poop and needles.

Say, how's Kentucky doing? How much more money are they going to leech from the federal government than pay into it this year?
 
68 billion surplus? That sure buys a lot of poop and needles.

Say, how's Kentucky doing? How much more money are they going to leech from the federal government than pay into it this year?

Or Mississippi or West Virginia, where the standard of living is almost as good as that in Eastern European countries not named Ukraine.
 
There's a surplus because Uncle Joe printed a bunch of funny money for his buddy Newsom.
 
There's a surplus because Uncle Joe printed a bunch of funny money for his buddy Newsom.

Bullshit. All the states get a share of Federal spending, while most of them pay less in taxes (ie Federal deficit). California almost breaks even (unlike Texas).

Of the ten states that pay more in taxes than they get in spending, only ND and NE are Red states.
 
California is not the “number 5 economy in the world”. This is absurd. California is only rich by access to the rest of America.

You're right. It's number 7, after India and ahead of France.

Texas is number 13, after South Korea and ahead of Australia.

(All in nominal dollars and including the US itself)
 
Bullshit. All the states get a share of Federal spending, while most of them pay less in taxes (ie Federal deficit). California almost breaks even (unlike Texas).

Of the ten states that pay more in taxes than they get in spending, only ND and NE are Red states.
States don’t pay taxes.
 
Let the other states beware, this is the result of one party communist run, state politics. More and more and more and more and more tax hikes. More hotels for the junkies? Teaching our kids communist filth? Free stuff for murdering gang members? Unbelievable crime rates? The literal breakdown of society? It's happening right now in the "golden state".
These idiots won't stop the insanity. It's a diabolical religion for them.
Vote them out NOW! As soon as possible.

It's funny how they can claim a surplus while in constant debt.

Try that with your bank.
 
California is not the “number 5 economy in the world”. This is absurd. California is only rich by access to the rest of America.

Economies are, generally, measured by GDP. CA GDP is higher than every country in the world except 4 other countries. Other countries are also rich by access to America. Get that straight. The main diff btx CA as a state vs a country is that CA can't print its own money that another country can.
 
Economies are, generally, measured by GDP. CA GDP is higher than every country in the world except 4 other countries. Other countries are also rich by access to America. Get that straight. The main diff btx CA as a state vs a country is that CA can't print its own money that another country can.
California is not a country. So your measurement is a false one.
 
States don’t pay taxes.

What a gormless observation.

Taxpayers in only ten states pay more federal tax than they receive in federal spending, and of those ten only 2 are red states. Better now?
 
California is not a country. So your measurement is a false one.

Wow, the insight. You're really running on all four cylinders today aren't you?
 
Ok, I'll bite - why has gas been "too cheap, and for way too long?"
You mean you don't know ?!!? So many reasons, mostly stemming from the first principle that gas, being too cheap, leads to overusing it to an obscene degree.

Gas taxes are supposed to pay for infrastructure projects - so why do we need hundreds of billions of dollar$ in infrastructure work? Because gas taxes are far too low, and have been for decades. Why is gas so cheap? Because we subsidize it with federal tax money. Why do we do that? Because petroleum industry lobbyists own our elected representatives.

Fossil fuels, including gas, pollute. They pollute the food we eat, the air we breathe, and the water we drink. They pollute in their extraction, in their refinement, in their transportation, in their storage, and most of all, in their use. That pollution costs all of us in hidden and incalculable ways. It costs us many billions in cleanup costs, and many, many billions in healthcare costs, because pollution exposure poisons us all.

Despite having the technology for cleaner and more efficient transportation, Americans are driving more and more SUVs. They are buying and driving vehicles that get 15-20 MPG when plenty of vehicles are available that get twice that - 30-40 MPG. Why? Because gas is too damned cheap. Historically, the record shows that when gas prices are higher, economy cars sell much better.

Americans piss away gas for no other reason than their personal comfort. Why? Because gas is too damned cheap. Americans will sit in their cars idling their engines to keep the A/C running when it isn't really needed, or they'll start their cars and idle for 10 or 15 minutes before they climb in on a frosty morning, just because putting their ass in a cold seat for the 5 minutes it takes to warm up is too much of a discomfort.

Americans are so lazy, they'll use a gas powered lawn mower when they could use a push mower, they'll use a gas powered snowblower when they could be shoveling, and they'll use a gas powered leaf blower when they could easily rake their lawns. Why? Because the price of gas is too damned cheap!

Americans don't think twice about burning gas recreationally! They race through snowy woods on snowmobiles, they tear up trails on dirt bikes, and the do donuts on jet skis, polluting fresh water lakes. And that's not even including just recreational driving and boating. Why do they do it? Because the price of gas is too damned cheap! There would be a lot less of all of this going on if gas were $10 a gallon. It's long past time we started paying for the real price of gas. The price that covers the infrastructure, the price that covers the healthcare costs, and the price that covers the cleanup.
 
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There's a surplus because Uncle Joe printed a bunch of funny money for his buddy Newsom.

You have very strange ideas about how the world works.
 
You mean you don't know ?!!? So many reasons, mostly stemming from the first principle that gas, being too cheap, leads to overusing it to an obscene degree.

Gas taxes are supposed to pay for infrastructure projects - so why do we need hundreds of billions of dollar$ in infrastructure work? Because gas taxes are far too low, and have been for decades. Why is gas so cheap? Because we subsidize it with federal tax money. Why do we do that? Because petroleum industry lobbyists own our elected representatives.

Fossil fuels, including gas, pollute. They pollute the food we eat, the air we breathe, and the water we drink. They pollute in their extraction, in their refinement, in their transportation, in their storage, and most of all, in their use. That pollution costs all of us in hidden and incalculable ways. It costs us many billions in cleanup costs, and many, many billions in healthcare costs, because pollution exposure poisons us all.

Despite having the technology for cleaner and more efficient transportation, Americans are driving more and more SUVs. They are buying and driving vehicles that get 15-20 MPG when plenty of vehicles are available that get twice that - 30-40 MPG. Why? Because gas is too damned cheap. Historically, the record shows that when gas prices are higher, economy cars sell much better.

Americans piss away gas for no other reason than their personal comfort. Why? Because gas is too damned cheap. Americans will sit in their cars idling their engines to keep the A/C running when it isn't really needed, or they'll start their cars and idle for 10 or 15 minutes before they climb in on a frosty morning, just because putting their ass in a cold seat for the 5 minutes it takes to warm up is too much of a discomfort.

Americans are so lazy, they'll use a gas powered lawn mower when they could use a push mower, they'll use a gas powered snowblower when they could be shoveling, and they'll use a gas powered leaf blower when they could easily rake their lawns. Why? Because the price of gas is too damned cheap!

Americans don't think twice about burning gas recreationally! They race through snowy woods on snowmobiles, they tear up trails on dirt bikes, and the do donuts on jet skis, polluting fresh water lakes. And that's not even including just recreational driving and boating. Why do they do it? Because the price of gas is too damned cheap! There would be a lot less of all of this going on if gas were $10 a gallon. It's long past time we started paying for the real price of gas. The price that covers the infrastructure, the price that covers the healthcare costs, and the price that covers the cleanup.
Your premise for gas prices being too [damned] cheap is that we use to much of it on activities of which you disapprove:
  • Driving SUVs instead of economy cars,
  • Lawnmowers instead of push mowers,
  • Warming up cars on cold winter days,
  • Using their air conditioners,
  • Using snow blowers instead of hand shoveling the snow,
  • Using leaf blowers instead of manual raking,
  • Recreational use: boats, RVs, snowmobiles, dirt bikes, jet skis
You believe gas prices are too [damned] cheap and should be raised (and raised to the point of pain for all) - not for economic reasons, but for purely punitive reasons. You believe gas prices should be higher - via massive government tax increases on gas - to PUNISH Americans and FORCE them into behaving in a manner you think we ought to behave.

And to justify this authoritarian punishment, you cite "pollution" as your justification - when in fact the only "pollution" here is the totality of your argument. To hell with you and your authoritarian BS. You want to feel pain? Take a wad of hundred dollar bills and shove them where the sun don't shine to plug your own malodorous emissions.

I haven't had the displeasure of reading such a putrid pile of devilish, dogmatic :poop::poop: in some time. That was one seriously disturbing screed there. Seriously disturbing...
 
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