The Biden Hoax

[Grand Mal]

Yeah, according to Joe 200 million people died.

According to Trump the sound from windmills causes cancer.
One is a slip, the other batshit crazy.

 

[Trippy Trekker]

A lie?? And his rhetoric really bothers you? Better get over your hatred as there is no justification for voting for Biden. Doesn't look like you have outperformed us 3.3% death to infection rate vs ours at 2.9%, liberal math??

Germany	288613	9545		3.3%
United States	6,968,226	203446		2.9%

Beware of King Chump, The Anti-Christ!

 

[jakiejakester]

Right, you are blinded by an ideology that believes the rich are going to fund the liberal spending appetite. Liberalism isn't free nor are the programs they have proposed, why are you so blind. Who pays for these programs like Medicare for All? the Green Energy Deal? Haven't paid any attention at all to the Biden/Harris agenda, have you

Every recession since Ike became President has begun when there was a Republican President...none started when JFK, Carter, Clinton or Obama was President. The score is 11-0 GOP recessions vs. Democratic recessions including the most recent one under Trump. Your phony claim that Dems will destroy the economy are not based on facts...per usual...

 

[ElChupacabra]

Of course you are with your private health insurance, cannot wait for you to see what is really in Medicare for All. Being fine where you are doesn't give you the right to tell others what to do by taking away their freedoms

Are you saying this country is incapable of devising a healthcare plan? That's quite the defeatist attitude. I like to see challenges as opportunities to rise to the occasion and find the best solution possible. All you seem to offer is "meh, keep things as they are". Humanity is fortunate that not everyone thinks this way, otherwise we'd still be in caves afraid to try anything new.

Now back to the Thread Topic why would anyone support an ideology endorsed by every radical group in the country and with such a radical in Harris on the ticket. Don't believe you are religious and the radicals are doing their best to destroy it but as a Christian and Catholic it appalls me to see such anti Religious zealots trying to do that?

So can you (in your words) explain how Harris is going to "destroy" religion; is she going to establish the Ministry of Atheism and seek out the religious?

I don't get into religious debates because like this forum no minds are going to be changed, but I am a Catholic and was in bed with my wife when she died and I actually saw her spirit leave her body, I know where she is and that there is a GOD in spite the Anti Religion rhetoric and actions spewed by devout Atheists. Biden was prevented for taking Communion due to his radical left stances on basic issues including Abortion

https://www.electionforum.org/elect...ti-christian-attacks-and-socialist-worldview/

I agree that religious debates which seek to convert people are a waste of time. The very aspect of faith requires one suspend disbelief and accept the tenets of a particular faith (western religions do). What religion means in a pluralistic society is a bit complex because you now have competing interests between people of faith and those who are not of faith. I saw the stillborn birth of my daughter, and was there when they turned off life-support for my father but didn't see any spirits leave their respective bodies. I don't say this to disqualify your experience, but the subjectivity of these experiences.

 

[digitusmedius]

The Biden Hoax

Joe Biden’s nomination is the Democrats’ crowning insult. They’re making another go at playing voters for chumps. Democrats, the D.C. establishment, and the left started hoaxing Americans back in 2016. The Russia H...

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Is there ever going to be a time when good Democrats wake up to the reality of exactly who Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi are and how Biden is nothing more than a placeholder? Do you supposed Democrats understand what the radical party stands for today and how that destroys the very foundation upon which this country was created and the rule of law?

Come on, there has to be some honest Democrats in this forum that recognize the disaster awaiting us with Harris/Biden!

Just a suggestion: That hoax ploy stopped working for you people more than a year ago. It's become an actual "tell" every time Dirtbag uses it (which is every time) and the cult just keeps repeating it since every "hoax" turns out to be a fact.

 

[digitusmedius]

Every recession since Ike became President has begun when there was a Republican President...none started when JFK, Carter, Clinton or Obama was President. The score is 11-0 GOP recessions vs. Democratic recessions including the most recent one under Trump. Your phony claim that Dems will destroy the economy are not based on facts...per usual...

It's one of their favorite Big Lies.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Why aren't our numbers better than a continent?? Probably because Europe is made up of individual nations with each one of the run by an authoritarian capable of enforcing laws and actions. We don't have that in this country no matter how hard you try.

Nope. Many are representative democracies like ours.

Why would anyone who is in the private sector vote for devout public servants with no clue or understanding of the private sector yet are multi millionaires. Can you explain why public servants are multi millionaires?

Governance is about much more than just the private sector; that you think private sector interests should be at the core of a politicians focus is pretty sad. The government is there to represent the people. Of course private interests are included in that, but should not be the sole focus. I'd argue how can anyone support public servants who have no understanding of public services be in office either. Here you are complaining about public servants being multi millionaires while supporting a multi-millionaire candidate.

 

[ElChupacabra]

This is why it is pointless responding to you, you cannot with any shred of integrity state the others argument or point.

He doesn't really have one. When he talks about the economy, he says Trump is the obvious choice because of pre-pandemic results. Of course anyone would say that the results to date are "the results". One might have differing opinions on the impact of the president in a pandemic, but one thing is clear: Trump decided not to let people know about the gravity of the disease and chose to downplay it. This resulted on some states opening up despite the examples seen on the east coast. That Trump doesn't see pandemic containment as part of an economic recovery is another failure. He assumes things will just magically go back to normal; thus far we have no examples of that except in countries that took preventive measures.

 

[ElChupacabra]

According to Trump the sound from windmills causes cancer.
One is a slip, the other batshit crazy.

...and the Continental Army took over the airports from the British Army.

 

[Conservative]

You're over 5 times more likely to die as an American from covid than as a German. You can't ignore the only metric that actually matters.



Thank you, I was too lazy to look for the data for conservative who hates and ignores data.

Right, 330,000,000 million Americans vs. 83,000,000 so your logic is false as is the data that shows our death to infection ratio beating Germany. Glad you are happy there and recommend that you stay

 

[Conservative]

He doesn't really have one. When he talks about the economy, he says Trump is the obvious choice because of pre-pandemic results. Of course anyone would say that the results to date are "the results". One might have differing opinions on the impact of the president in a pandemic, but one thing is clear: Trump decided not to let people know about the gravity of the disease and chose to downplay it. This resulted on some states opening up despite the examples seen on the east coast. That Trump doesn't see pandemic containment as part of an economic recovery is another failure. He assumes things will just magically go back to normal; thus far we have no examples of that except in countries that took preventive measures.

So when the economy was shutdown what economic results did you expect? As I have pointed out conservative economic principles work, socialist economic policies don't. You keep buying the entitlement ideology of liberalism and let us know how that affects your private sector business

 

[Conservative]

LOL! There IS an obvious way to avoid Covid? Really? That's why 7 million Americans are infected and more than 200K are dead? How selfish of you to not share the OBVIOUS way to avoid Covid? I truly believe that only someone completely ignorant to infectious diseases would think that there's an obvious way (other than a vaccine) to avoid Covid? Since you live in Texas with almost 16K deaths and more than 700K cases how come you haven't shared your miracle way with your fellow Texans?

So are you blaming Cuomo for the 32,000 deaths in NY? 208,000 deaths out of 330,000,000 million Americans? Any idea what that percentage is? According to you infection is a death sentence, according to the CDC not so much unless you send infected seniors back to their nursing home and refusal to use the U.S.S. Hope for assistance. TX has 16,000,000 deaths vs over 32,000 for NY. Get someone to explain the difference to you, 30,000,000 Texans vs 19 million NYers. Won't be long before NY isn't the fourth largest state as liberal policies keep driving people out of the state, wonder why?

 

[Conservative]

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Again, context doesn't matter to you as part time for economic reason employees skew the unemployment rate but 3.5% is lower than what he inherited so not sure what you are trying to prove? You live in that bubble that thinks a part time job is as good as a full time job? Any idea what a part time job for economic reasons is?

 

[Conservative]

No one cares what you think is a valid reason to vote for Biden. No one owes you any explanation of why. Your posts are always filled with the same type of HATE that Trump exhibits which is why I think you love, love, love him - you share a mutual hatred for mankind...maybe you should run for president?

Right, keep voting for that D and watch the results right before your eyes.

 

[Conservative]

Just a suggestion: That hoax ploy stopped working for you people more than a year ago. It's become an actual "tell" every time Dirtbag uses it (which is every time) and the cult just keeps repeating it since every "hoax" turns out to be a fact.

So still waiting for a valid reason to vote for Biden/Harris, here is just a few of the reasons I won't be voting for them

https://www.electionforum.org/elect...ti-christian-attacks-and-socialist-worldview/

 

[Grand Mal]

Right, 330,000,000 million Americans vs. 83,000,000 so your logic is false as is the data that shows our death to infection ratio beating Germany. Glad you are happy there and recommend that you stay

Deaths per million population

USA- 635
Germany- 114

Total cases per million

USA- 22,308
Germany- 3,464

Closed Cases

USA - 96% recoveries, 4% deaths
Germany- 96% recoveries, 4% deaths

COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

Got anymore bullshit?

 

[Grand Mal]

Again, context doesn't matter to you as part time for economic reason employees skew the unemployment rate but 3.5% is lower than what he inherited so not sure what you are trying to prove? You live in that bubble that thinks a part time job is as good as a full time job? Any idea what a part time job for economic reasons is?

Trump inherited a robust recovery from one of the worst recessions in memory. That's a fact, doesn't matter how you want to spin-doctor it. Biden was part of the Democratic team that brought America out of another Republican recession and the best hope the USA has is that history can repeat itself.

 

[digitusmedius]

Right, 330,000,000 million Americans vs. 83,000,000 so your logic is false as is the data that shows our death to infection ratio beating Germany. Glad you are happy there and recommend that you stay

Not only does this not have anything to do with "logic" (one of the vast number of words you people use without a shred of understanding) but the US death/million is five times higher than Germany's despite the population density of Germany is 3 times that of the U.S. No matter how hard you try to lie the truth away, the Dirtbag response to covid-19 has been horrifically and criminally deadly.

 

[Conservative]

Not only does this not have anything to do with "logic" (one of the vast number of words you people use without a shred of understanding) but the US death/million is five times higher than Germany's despite the population density of Germany is 3 times that of the U.S. No matter how hard you try to lie the truth away, the Dirtbag response to covid-19 has been horrifically and criminally deadly.

Right, keep promoting the gloom and doom ignoring the reality that your ideology is all about gloom and doom. Gave you the stats from CDC on deaths but you ignored it, just like you ignore the recoveries. How do you know the 208,000 U.S. Deaths is accurate? Do you believe China with 1.4 billion people only had 4600 deaths? By the way nice diversion from the Biden Hoax. you cannot offer a valid reason to vote for Biden and I gave you 12 why I am voting for Trump and that even excludes the police support for Trump. Not sure what drive people like you but you definitely have bought the liberal rhetoric, but too bad you ignore the liberal results

 

[Conservative]

Trump inherited a robust recovery from one of the worst recessions in memory. That's a fact, doesn't matter how you want to spin-doctor it. Biden was part of the Democratic team that brought America out of another Republican recession and the best hope the USA has is that history can repeat itself.

Right, robust economy by liberal definition is mediocre by normal definition. why don't you tell us about that robust economy and do it with data in context? Do you know the difference between 500 billion dollars per year GDP dollar growth and 900 billion dollars per year? Do you know what a part time employee is vs. Full time? Do you know the difference between the U-3 and U-6 unemployment numbers? As you have shown you have no standing in this country as you cannot vote, I will be voting for Trump as will the majority in this country who support law and order

 

[ElChupacabra]

So when the economy was shutdown what economic results did you expect?

It's a matter of managing the economic impact by understanding the relationship between pandemic mitigation and economic recovery. Other industrialized nations have managed this with less impact to their economies. As we now know, he knew the risks and chose to downplay it instead of working with governors on plans to contain it.

As I have pointed out conservative economic principles work, socialist economic policies don't. You keep buying the entitlement ideology of liberalism and let us know how that affects your private sector business

Do they though? Kansas's tax experiment went all sorts of sideways. Walker didn't do much to help Wisconsin's economy. What conservative state has economies on the scale of blue states if you want to make that kind of comparison. Of course you're always presenting binary choices and think only in the extremes of both. We already have a mixed economy in that we provide social services; what some Americans advocate is the expansion of some of those services and not out right "SHERSHALIZM!!1!!!". Societies define what they think are the best way to manage services which help the public; the core idea there is we are helping each other become better. If people no longer have to worry about being bankrupted because of medical expenses, that has its own set of positive outcomes like a healthier population because the people can go to doctors when needed. Or if we decide to pay higher taxes so our kids don't have to become debt slaves to get a college education, we might end up with more well educated people.

All of that is certainly worth the debate, rather than the defeatist attitude that it can't be done.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Right, keep voting for that D and watch the results right before your eyes.

Umm..sure...seems to make sense for my wallet!

 

[Conservative]

"ElChupacabra, post: 1072710782, member: 32739"]
It's a matter of managing the economic impact by understanding the relationship between pandemic mitigation and economic recovery. Other industrialized nations have managed this with less impact to their economies. As we now know, he knew the risks and chose to downplay it instead of working with governors on plans to contain it.

So no answer to the question, did you really want the virus to slow down or just have bad economic numbers to blame on Trump? Sounds like other nations are places you would like to be, easy access, so when are you moving?

Do they though? Kansas's tax experiment went all sorts of sideways. Walker didn't do much to help Wisconsin's economy. What conservative state has economies on the scale of blue states if you want to make that kind of comparison. Of course you're always presenting binary choices and think only in the extremes of both. We already have a mixed economy in that we provide social services; what some Americans advocate is the expansion of some of those services and not out right "SHERSHALIZM!!1!!!". Societies define what they think are the best way to manage services which help the public; the core idea there is we are helping each other become better. If people no longer have to worry about being bankrupted because of medical expenses, that has its own set of positive outcomes like a healthier population because the people can go to doctors when needed. Or if we decide to pay higher taxes so our kids don't have to become debt slaves to get a college education, we might end up with more well educated people.

Sideways? So you have a problem keeping more of what you earn? You keep digging that hold deeper never explaining why you are voting for Biden. So you believe it is the federal taxpayers responsibility to provide for your own personal responsibility issues? Right bankruptcy exists when you make bad choices except in your world.

 

[Conservative]

Umm..sure...seems to make sense for my wallet!

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So percentage change resonates with you?? Think the American people give a damn about percentage change? NO, it is dollar growth that matters and their bank accounts. Until you recognize the components of GDP and what they contribute you really don't have a clue as to what you are talking about with regards to GDP percentage change. What effect did the 842 billion federal stimulus have on GDP during the Obama term? What percentage of GDP is gov't spending and does GDP growth totals really indicate the success of economic policies vs the components? Any idea what the number one component of GDP is and what the difference was between Obama and Trump? Post it for us?

 

[Grand Mal]

Right, keep voting for that D and watch the results right before your eyes.

"It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now it shouldn't be that way, but if you go back, it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats."
-Donald Trump-