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The Biden Hoax

How about you be a bit more specific with your conspiracy theory.

Pretty simple, Joe Biden is a 78 year old career public servant with declining mental capacity. Your party couldn't get a radical at the top of the ticket so they got the next best thing, a radical second on the ticket knowing that Biden may not survive his entire first term. You want to risk putting Harris in the WH? Radicals certainly have made a fool out of a lot of good people
 
Because you are spending so much time focused on what you believe Trump should have done in January/February. Warning people of the inherent danger during Impeachment??

Well it's not just what he could have done in January/February, but his continued downplaying of the virus from that point on. So I'm still not clear on where you stand on rhetoric now that you've stated Trump not telling the truth about the threat the pandemic posed was a sign of leadership because it prevented a panic. I thought rhetoric didn't matter?

You and your radical leftists would have called that a scam and attempt to influence the outcome of the trial. This OP is spot on, you are going to vote for Harris/Biden because of a need for a nanny state totally ignoring the results pre pandemic and policies that generated those results.

I'm just not a highlights reel type of analyst because it's a pretty skewed way of looking at just about anything. You just continue to ignore the failure this administration made economically by not understanding that pandemic control is one of the key ways of helping the economy. Downplaying it with the hopes it would just go away did not pan out in the slightest.

Thought you were in the private sector? Better think before you vote in November

For someone who complains about doom and gloom you sure are fond of using the same. I am in the private sector, I just don't have the same fears as you do because I'm not a binary thinker who assumes it's either one extreme or the other.
 

Is there ever going to be a time when good Democrats wake up to the reality of exactly who Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi are and how Biden is nothing more than a placeholder? Do you supposed Democrats understand what the radical party stands for today and how that destroys the very foundation upon which this country was created and the rule of law?

Come on, there has to be some honest Democrats in this forum that recognize the disaster awaiting us with Harris/Biden!

Thanks for playing this down like Covid 19 so as not to panic people.

Good gawd man someone get this guy a Fresca and some valium.
 
Well it's not just what he could have done in January/February, but his continued downplaying of the virus from that point on. So I'm still not clear on where you stand on rhetoric now that you've stated Trump not telling the truth about the threat the pandemic posed was a sign of leadership because it prevented a panic. I thought rhetoric didn't matter?



I'm just not a highlights reel type of analyst because it's a pretty skewed way of looking at just about anything. You just continue to ignore the failure this administration made economically by not understanding that pandemic control is one of the key ways of helping the economy. Downplaying it with the hopes it would just go away did not pan out in the slightest.



For someone who complains about doom and gloom you sure are fond of using the same. I am in the private sector, I just don't have the same fears as you do because I'm not a binary thinker who assumes it's either one extreme or the other.

Then you have no understanding of the effects Socialism will have on the private sector, who pays for it? How can anyone support a party that has Harris a heartbeat from the Presidency and endorsed by every radical group in the country? Better focus on the future not your perception of the past
 
Thanks for playing this down like Covid 19 so as not to panic people.

Good gawd man someone get this guy a Fresca and some valium.

in case you missed it 329,800,000 do not have Covid 19 but as usual you need this issue to divert from the alternative being offered to the American people buying rhetoric instead of results that are controllable and responsibility of the President
 
As an emphatic, dedicated supporter and apologist for Trump, literally nobody cares what you think about democrats. You've shown over and over again that you'll lie, misrepresent and exaggerate to push your agenda and the more you hate them, the more likely it is they're reasonable, rational people.

You're unable to successfully attack Biden on his actual positions and character so you peddle desperate conspiracy theories. You're fooling no one.

Biden’s positions and character are his most vulnerable points.
 
Biden’s positions and character are his most vulnerable points.

You will notice the the Biden supporters will do anything they can to divert from the real issues affecting the American people. Biden's positions on various issues aren't being discussed nor is the reality that we would have a SF liberal a heartbeat away from the Oval Office administering foreign policy to keep this country safe. SF is a Sanctuary cite so let's make the U.S. a sanctuary country, open borders!!
 
You will notice the the Biden supporters will do anything they can to divert from the real issues affecting the American people. Biden's positions on various issues aren't being discussed nor is the reality that we would have a SF liberal a heartbeat away from the Oval Office administering foreign policy to keep this country safe. SF is a Sanctuary cite so let's make the U.S. a sanctuary country, open borders!!
LOL, Texas is around 40% Hispanic....and it was territory that was originally part of Mexico. It was whites that invaded that land.

Geez!
 
Then you have no understanding of the effects Socialism will have on the private sector, who pays for it? How can anyone support a party that has Harris a heartbeat from the Presidency and endorsed by every radical group in the country? Better focus on the future not your perception of the past

While I'm not surprised that you've taken the "SERSHERLISM!!!11!!" bait hook, line, and sinker, I think it's quite a stretch to think that anything a Biden/Harris administration would be able to impose wide spread programs like that. Your alarmist rhetoric is noted.
 
While I'm not surprised that you've taken the "SERSHERLISM!!!11!!" bait hook, line, and sinker, I think it's quite a stretch to think that anything a Biden/Harris administration would be able to impose wide spread programs like that. Your alarmist rhetoric is noted.

Pretty simple, who is endorsing Harris/Biden and what do they expect from that endorsement? You keep buying the rhetoric and ignoring the liberal results, Portland, Seattle, LA, SF, Chicago, Minneapolis, Kenosha, NYC and the states of California and NY all bastions of liberalism delivering those liberal results



 
You ignore a lot of things. Apparently there are only problems in blue states because you are now regurgitating the lines being fed to you. It's become pretty predictable at this point. The moment Trump makes talking points, it's not long before you're here repeating them. So do tell us why so many red states lag in a variety of metrics, and how GOP leadership has continued to fail those areas.
 
You ignore a lot of things. Apparently there are only problems in blue states because you are now regurgitating the lines being fed to you. It's become pretty predictable at this point. The moment Trump makes talking points, it's not long before you're here repeating them. So do tell us why so many red states lag in a variety of metrics, and how GOP leadership has continued to fail those areas.

Obviously nothing is going to change your mind regarding Trump and voting for Biden thus making this a waste of time. You are totally incapable of discussing actual issues and refuse to tell us exactly what it is in the Biden agenda that you support and how that would promote the private sector

Any idea where I get those lines I post here??? Actual video, actual economic results, actual history. Everything I post comes from verifiable sources, everything you post is opinion based

Those so called metrics you post lack context and I don't see people fleeing those red states to states like yours
 
Obviously nothing is going to change your mind regarding Trump and voting for Biden thus making this a waste of time. You are totally incapable of discussing actual issues and refuse to tell us exactly what it is in the Biden agenda that you support and how that would promote the private sector

Any idea where I get those lines I post here??? Actual video, actual economic results, actual history. Everything I post comes from verifiable sources, everything you post is opinion based

Those so called metrics you post lack context and I don't see people fleeing those red states to states like yours

Let me be perfectly clear so there is no misunderstanding, I am Pro Trump, Pro Military, Pro Law enforcement, Pro Life, Pro Gun, A Christian, believe there are only two genders, and that All Lives Matter. Put that into our anti Trump tirade and explain what Biden believes in those areas?
 
You ignore a lot of things. Apparently there are only problems in blue states because you are now regurgitating the lines being fed to you. It's become pretty predictable at this point. The moment Trump makes talking points, it's not long before you're here repeating them. So do tell us why so many red states lag in a variety of metrics, and how GOP leadership has continued to fail those areas.

All this spewed hatred from the left against Trump totally ignoring anything good he has done. You don't want to focus on economic issues, how about these then

A Generous man....

In 1986 a farmer, Lenard Hill, took his own life on the morning his farm was to go to a courthouse auction, believing that his life insurance would pay enough to save the cotton and soybean plantation that had been in his family for more than 100 years. A complete stranger in Queens N.Y. read about this story and paid off the remaining $77,000.

A USMC Sergeant spent seven months in a Mexican prison for accidentally crossing the border with a firearm. He was beaten and tortured in jail. Once he was released, the man from Queens sent him a check for $25,000, "To get you started."

In 2013 A black bus driver saves a suicidal girl from jumping off a bridge. Our Queens man sends him a check for $10,000.

A rabbi's critically ill son needs to get from NYC to California for specialty care treatment in 1988. No airlines will fly him. A generous man in Queens pays for a private flight for the child.


In 2017 after Army Corporal Dillon Baldridge was killed in Afghanistan, a generous man in Queens sent his father a check for $25,000.

This kind-hearted man from Queens has committed many other "quiet acts of random kindness." A wise man once said, "If a man's heart is good....Nothing else matters. And if a man's heart is bad....Nothing else matters."

Who is this kind man?.......



Donald J. Trump,....a man with a good heart.
 
You ignore a lot of things. Apparently there are only problems in blue states because you are now regurgitating the lines being fed to you. It's become pretty predictable at this point. The moment Trump makes talking points, it's not long before you're here repeating them. So do tell us why so many red states lag in a variety of metrics, and how GOP leadership has continued to fail those areas.

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Obviously nothing is going to change your mind regarding Trump and voting for Biden thus making this a waste of time. You are totally incapable of discussing actual issues and refuse to tell us exactly what it is in the Biden agenda that you support and how that would promote the private sector

If changing people's minds is your objective, I'd reconsider that strategy. Have you ever changed someone's mind? Typically political views are hard held, so changing someone's party affiliation takes quite a bit of doing. I've discussed which ever "actual issues" in which I partake; that you don't like my responses doesn't change the fact I've responded every single time. I also don't make a habit of having to repeat things I've already answered. What I'm more interested in is how you think they're not promoting the private sector. You posit this idea that they're going to destroy the private sector; something which we've never seen before regardless of which political party is in place. One can argue that the Democrats are more inclined to regulate businesses, but that's never created the scenarios being painted for you.

Any idea where I get those lines I post here??? Actual video, actual economic results, actual history. Everything I post comes from verifiable sources, everything you post is opinion based.

The question is often not the sources, but your interpretation of data and statistics; that's what's often lacking. As I've repeated numerous times before, your usage of data is based on creating highlight reels and omitting that which isn't convenient to the point you're trying to make.

Those so called metrics you post lack context and I don't see people fleeing those red states to states like yours

Ah yes, the "lack context" excuse. If you were consistent about this, you would have never concluded healthcare systems outcomes based on existing data when that hasn't been properly analyzed. You use this phrase as one of your many deflections.
 
All this spewed hatred from the left against Trump totally ignoring anything good he has done. You don't want to focus on economic issues, how about these then

A Generous man....

In 1986 a farmer, Lenard Hill, took his own life on the morning his farm was to go to a courthouse auction, believing that his life insurance would pay enough to save the cotton and soybean plantation that had been in his family for more than 100 years. A complete stranger in Queens N.Y. read about this story and paid off the remaining $77,000.

A USMC Sergeant spent seven months in a Mexican prison for accidentally crossing the border with a firearm. He was beaten and tortured in jail. Once he was released, the man from Queens sent him a check for $25,000, "To get you started."

In 2013 A black bus driver saves a suicidal girl from jumping off a bridge. Our Queens man sends him a check for $10,000.

A rabbi's critically ill son needs to get from NYC to California for specialty care treatment in 1988. No airlines will fly him. A generous man in Queens pays for a private flight for the child.


In 2017 after Army Corporal Dillon Baldridge was killed in Afghanistan, a generous man in Queens sent his father a check for $25,000.

This kind-hearted man from Queens has committed many other "quiet acts of random kindness." A wise man once said, "If a man's heart is good....Nothing else matters. And if a man's heart is bad....Nothing else matters."

Who is this kind man?.......



Donald J. Trump,....a man with a good heart.

Then that's counter balanced with the consistent douchebaggery he's displayed over the decades.
 
Then that's counter balanced with the consistent douchebaggery he's displayed over the decades.

You keep buying rhetoric and ignoring actual results, the only results I give a damn about are the ones generated since he was in power to make a difference, the last three years pre pandemic. I am still waiting for you to explain what it is about Biden that you support since you claim to be a private sector person?

Again results matter as does the agenda, learn what Biden stands for and what he supports


Why I support Trump

reopen and let the market set wages and lower taxes.

NO to massive Green Energy policies(Solyndra),

law and order,

holding cities and states responsible for rioting, looting, and destruction, no defunding of police, No federal funds for rebuilding due to rioting. Pro police

Healthcare

Anti Obamacare and a return to states' rights and responsibilities including healthcare certainly no Medicare for all,

Immigration

No sanctuary cities, legal NOT illegal immigration

NO DACA, stop providing incentive for illegals to come to this country to have kids

Border Wall

Zero tolerance policy for immigration violators

State and city support for ICE

Climate change

See economic policies

No banning of coal and fracking

No support for the Paris accord without Chinese, India, Russia changes in policies

Foreign policy

America first

No longer world's policeman

Stand up to China and their currency manipulation and intellectual currency theft

No support for Iran nuclear deal without proper international verification

NATO countries paying their fair share
 
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If changing people's minds is your objective, I'd reconsider that strategy. Have you ever changed someone's mind? Typically political views are hard held, so changing someone's party affiliation takes quite a bit of doing. I've discussed which ever "actual issues" in which I partake; that you don't like my responses doesn't change the fact I've responded every single time. I also don't make a habit of having to repeat things I've already answered. What I'm more interested in is how you think they're not promoting the private sector. You posit this idea that they're going to destroy the private sector; something which we've never seen before regardless of which political party is in place. One can argue that the Democrats are more inclined to regulate businesses, but that's never created the scenarios being painted for you.



The question is often not the sources, but your interpretation of data and statistics; that's what's often lacking. As I've repeated numerous times before, your usage of data is based on creating highlight reels and omitting that which isn't convenient to the point you're trying to make.



Ah yes, the "lack context" excuse. If you were consistent about this, you would have never concluded healthcare systems outcomes based on existing data when that hasn't been properly analyzed. You use this phrase as one of your many deflections.
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Got it feelings and personal opinions only matter to you not the failures of liberal policies all over the country. The left keeps saying my interpretation of the data is wrong, pure opinion and certainly not backed by anything. You claim my interpretation is wrong, prove it

As for healthcare success, we are in the middle of the pandemic, how is it the U.S. without universal healthcare is doing better than the top nations of the world with Universal Health care, interpret that data properly, the U.S. 3% death to infection rate vs

England3782194168411.0%
France395104309997.8%
Sweden8757558606.7%
Canada13880391886.6%
Denmark172006243.6%
Germany26632494473.5%
United States6,453,8671937993.0%
 
Got it feelings and personal opinions only matter to you not the failures of liberal policies all over the country. The left keeps saying my interpretation of the data is wrong, pure opinion and certainly not backed by anything. You claim my interpretation is wrong, prove it

"The left" keeps saying your interpretation of data is wrong? Hmm, interesting. So who exactly is "the left"? I checked the member list and didn't see a member with that handle. I have challenged your data interpretations in a variety of threads and clearly explained why many of your conclusions were not sound because they were based on assumptions not found in the data sets you were citing. This was particularly notable in the many instances you posted information like the chart below and claimed it was indicative of healthcare system outcomes. My claiming the US did better because Americans drank unicorn tears is just as nonsensical as what you're positing.

As for healthcare success, we are in the middle of the pandemic, how is it the U.S. without universal healthcare is doing better than the top nations of the world with Universal Health care, interpret that data properly, the U.S. 3% death to infection rate vs

England3782194168411.0%
France395104309997.8%
Sweden8757558606.7%
Canada13880391886.6%
Denmark172006243.6%
Germany26632494473.5%
United States6,453,8671937993.0%

Oh I don't know, maybe variables like :ratio of young to old, population density, ability to effectively practice social distancing, compliance to prevention measures and so on. These are the kind of details one would be interested to see before making conclusions, but not everyone is suited to handling the minutia which helps present an accurate picture. Healthcare system outcomes might very well factor into the final analysis, but you haven't provided any substantiation. The question you don't seem to ask is how the US with the supposed best healthcare in the world has the highest number of mortalities in the world. What's up with that?
 
"The left" keeps saying your interpretation of data is wrong? Hmm, interesting. So who exactly is "the left"? I checked the member list and didn't see a member with that handle. I have challenged your data interpretations in a variety of threads and clearly explained why many of your conclusions were not sound because they were based on assumptions not found in the data sets you were citing. This was particularly notable in the many instances you posted information like the chart below and claimed it was indicative of healthcare system outcomes. My claiming the US did better because Americans drank unicorn tears is just as nonsensical as what you're positing.



Oh I don't know, maybe variables like :ratio of young to old, population density, ability to effectively practice social distancing, compliance to prevention measures and so on. These are the kind of details one would be interested to see before making conclusions, but not everyone is suited to handling the minutia which helps present an accurate picture. The question you don't seem to ask is how the US with the supposed best healthcare in the world has the highest mortality rate in the world. What's up with that?
"The left" keeps saying your interpretation of data is wrong? Hmm, interesting. So who exactly is "the left"? I checked the member list and didn't see a member with that handle. I have challenged your data interpretations in a variety of threads and clearly explained why many of your conclusions were not sound because they were based on assumptions not found in the data sets you were citing. This was particularly notable in the many instances you posted information like the chart below and claimed it was indicative of healthcare system outcomes. My claiming the US did better because Americans drank unicorn tears is just as nonsensical as what you're positing.



Oh I don't know, maybe variables like :ratio of young to old, population density, ability to effectively practice social distancing, compliance to prevention measures and so on. These are the kind of details one would be interested to see before making conclusions, but not everyone is suited to handling the minutia which helps present an accurate picture. The question you don't seem to ask is how the US with the supposed best healthcare in the world has the highest mortality rate in the world. What's up with that?


Probably has nothing to do with wait times and problems getting doctors. Keep making excuses for the failures of liberalism showing that typical liberal arrogance.

AS for the highest mortality rate in the world, 200,000 out of 330.000.000 Americans and we report our deaths, think China with 1.4 billion people only had 86000 cases and 4600 deaths. Death to percentage is 3% under the world average and other those liberal utopia countries with Universal Healthcare. You keep ignoring that 329,800,000 Americans don't have Covid 19, name for me another country in the world with those numbers? No you want to focus on the negatives totally ignoring context like total population and the freedom of press we have in this country
 
You keep buying rhetoric and ignoring actual results, the only results I give a damn about are the ones generated since he was in power to make a difference, the last three years pre pandemic.


And it's your right to vote as you see fit, even if that's baed on a highlight reel criteria where only the good matters. It's daft, but each person is entitled to their own voting criteria.

I am still waiting for you to explain what it is about Biden that you support since you claim to be a private sector person?

Again results matter as does the agenda, learn what Biden stands for and what he supports

I support Biden because he reminds me of my friend's grandpappy. He's the kind of guy you would want to have coffee with and talk about the good ol' days. I also think he won't crash the economy and that the private sector will be fine. Nothing that I've seen in his policies makes me think either my corporate overlords are going to head for the hills or that my small business will be impacted.



Why I support Trump

reopen and let the market set wages and lower taxes.

NO to massive Green Energy policies(Solyndra),

law and order,

holding cities and states responsible for rioting, looting, and destruction, no defunding of police, No federal funds for rebuilding due to rioting. Pro police

Healthcare

Anti Obamacare and a return to states' rights and responsibilities including healthcare certainly no Medicare for all,

Immigration

No sanctuary cities, legal NOT illegal immigration

NO DACA, stop providing incentive for illegals to come to this country to have kids

Border Wall

Zero tolerance policy for immigration violators

State and city support for ICE

Climate change

See economic policies

No banning of coal and fracking

No support for the Paris accord without Chinese, India, Russia changes in policies

Foreign policy

America first

No longer world's policeman

Stand up to China and their currency manipulation and intellectual currency theft

No support for Iran nuclear deal without proper international verification

NATO countries paying their fair share

Cool story! You've repeated it numerous times, and I don't think I've ever told you whom you should vote for.
 
And it's your right to vote as you see fit, even if that's baed on a highlight reel criteria where only the good matters. It's daft, but each person is entitled to their own voting criteria.




I support Biden because he reminds me of my friend's grandpappy. He's the kind of guy you would want to have coffee with and talk about the good ol' days. I also think he won't crash the economy and that the private sector will be fine. Nothing that I've seen in his policies makes me think either my corporate overlords are going to head for the hills or that my small business will be impacted.




Cool story! You've repeated it numerous times, and I don't think I've ever told you whom you should vote for.

Got it his resume means nothing and the fact that Harris is on the ticket doesn't bother you either. I really have no further reason to discuss this issue with you as like far too many you cannot think beyond the moment and certainly not the bigger picture, the OP means nothing to you as you have yet to respond to anything in that OP, just your personal opinions.
 

Is there ever going to be a time when good Democrats wake up to the reality of exactly who Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi are and how Biden is nothing more than a placeholder? Do you supposed Democrats understand what the radical party stands for today and how that destroys the very foundation upon which this country was created and the rule of law?

Come on, there has to be some honest Democrats in this forum that recognize the disaster awaiting us with Harris/Biden!
Has QAnon closed down and posters moved over here?
Are there any honest tRUMP supporters? Or QAnaon members?
 

Is there ever going to be a time when good Democrats wake up to the reality of exactly who Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi are and how Biden is nothing more than a placeholder? Do you supposed Democrats understand what the radical party stands for today and how that destroys the very foundation upon which this country was created and the rule of law?

Come on, there has to be some honest Democrats in this forum that recognize the disaster awaiting us with Harris/Biden!

"what the radical party stands for today and how that destroys the very foundation upon which this country was created and the rule of law?"

There has been no larger display of total disregard of the rule of law than that shown by the Republicans, even more so than in the past 4 years. There is no "for the people" any longer among today's trumpublicans. It's all "for my people". So pathetic.
 
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