The Beauty of the Demokrat Primaries

[EMNofSeattle]

Bernie supporters are in the drivers seat.

The Democrats can not win without the Bernie Gang, and they know it.

People claim that Bernie's Gang will vote for Hillary just to stop Trump.

But, Bernie's supporters realize that there is no "substantive" difference between the two main parties.

They just play musical chairs and give the illusion of a functioning democracy.

Hillary has not talked real "Policy" since her campaign began, but Bernie's Gang has been talking policy since day one.

Bernie's Gang is scheduled to gather at the People's Summit in Chicago on June 17th.
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They are going to insist on Bernie going to the convention and to bring the "Policy Issues" to the floor for debate in addition to challenging the super delegates.

The uproar at the convention will show just how "Insincere" Hillary really is.

When Hillary suggests that Trump "Delete" his account and drop out of the race even though he is the nominee, then why can't Bernie's Gang demand the same thing from Hillary?

Trump is not the only candidate building walls.

Both the Republicans and Democrats are going to build huge walls around both convention centers to keep the voters out.

In a sense, every American is being called a "Suspect" (a possible terrorist) in the Suspect Nation.

Calm

You gonna come down from Toronto to see the convention?

 

[Frank Apisa]

Enthusiastically? Shirley, you jest. The sound of Hillary's voice liquifies my spinal column and makes my upper body flop down around my knees. Horrible. I literally can't stand to listen. She sounds like a really mean female drill sergeant with a 4 pack a day habit. But assuming she doesn't cough up a lung, a piece of her brain doesn't die and leave her with permanently crossed eyes and an inability to speak, and the DOJ doesn't develop a severe case of good ethics, she has the edge on winning in November, God help us all.

In that event conservatives will need to start watching the sky for Predator drones.

Yup.

And I KNOW I will be voting for her enthusiastically...and I KNOW others who will be doing so also.

I think you are going to be surprised.

But...I've been wrong before. (I thought the Beatles were never going to make it big!)

 

[Frank Apisa]

Bernie supporters are in the drivers seat.

The Democrats can not win without the Bernie Gang, and they know it.



Calm

Way over-stated.

The Democrats certainly would love the help of the Bernie Sanders people. But to suppose THEY CANNOT WIN without them, I a bit much.

In any case, they are not going to give away the farm in order to lure the portion who probably won't vote for Hillary anyway.

So make the noise you have to make...and then, after the convention...we will see where things go.

 

[calm]

Way over-stated.

I guess we both differ, but could revisit this conversation next week after the Peoples Summit on the 17-19th.

I think the world is going to be shocked when viewing the mass of people in attendance and the demands of the populist messaging from all across the country.

The only place I remember Hillary gathering a crowd compared to Bernie Sanders was in some living room in a private house and in a Gated Community.

Calm

 

[Frank Apisa]

I guess we both differ, but could revisit this conversation next week after the Peoples Summit on the 17-19th.

I think the world is going to be shocked when viewing the mass of people in attendance and the demands of the populist messaging from all across the country.

The only place I remember Hillary gathering a crowd compared to Bernie Sanders was in some living room in a private house and in a Gated Community.

Calm

We'll talk again after the Summit.

Let's see what happens.

 

[zimmer]

By the way, if you think a socialist ran on the Democratic ticket, you are mistaken. Bernie caucused with the Democrats as an Independent and he is running a democratic campaign above board. He is not a third-party candidate, no matter what kind of weight Jill Stein throws around or how many times her people contacted his people.


Socialism is a political theory. Electing a "socialist" Democrat to president does not a Socialist State make. The idea that Sanders' policy is hard to swallow does not make it impossible to pass. But passing legislation is characteristic of a Democracy, and Congress won't vote itself out of business. I am anticipating Sander's next steps, because by not electing a leader who is an avowed socialist Democrat likely means that you will see his policy adopted by another candidate who wants his share of voters. HRC did this when she adopted his idea to raise the minimum wage earlier this year. Bernie has another month to exercise his political clout of millions of votes and a precocious nominee won't change that.

Honestly, Dems would be better off voting for Bernie because it's only going to get worse. I doubt Trump supporters are going to pull us back from the brink of uncapitalism.

socialism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

Bernie is a long time admitted Socialista. He actually wished for a 3rd party some 27-years ago, but he didn't need it today as the Demokrat Party has become the 3rd party he wished for.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp-r68mo8k

 

[Celebrity]

I doubt that, because the Democratic Party is not a Socialist Party.

 

[TobyOne]

Bernie identifies himself as a socialist. All your libsplaining doesn't change that.

By the way, if you think a socialist ran on the Democratic ticket, you are mistaken. Bernie caucused with the Democrats as an Independent and he is running a democratic campaign above board. He is not a third-party candidate, no matter what kind of weight Jill Stein throws around or how many times her people contacted his people.


Socialism is a political theory. Electing a "socialist" Democrat to president does not a Socialist State make. The idea that Sanders' policy is hard to swallow does not make it impossible to pass. But passing legislation is characteristic of a Democracy, and Congress won't vote itself out of business. I am anticipating Sander's next steps, because by not electing a leader who is an avowed socialist Democrat likely means that you will see his policy adopted by another candidate who wants his share of voters. HRC did this when she adopted his idea to raise the minimum wage earlier this year. Bernie has another month to exercise his political clout of millions of votes and a precocious nominee won't change that.

Honestly, Dems would be better off voting for Bernie because it's only going to get worse. I doubt Trump supporters are going to pull us back from the brink of uncapitalism.

socialism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

 

[Celebrity]

Bernie identifies himself as a socialist. All your libsplaining doesn't change that.

My "libsplaining" amounts to this: vote for the Democrat, or vote for pushing more Democrats further left. Democrats are on the left, Socialists are on the left, Socialists are much further left than Democrats.

 

[joG]

1. An admitted Socialist ran for the Dem nomination.

A Socialist who is little to no different from the remainder of the party. Bernie has clearly illustrated that today's Demokrats are Socialists. They're not the Democrat party of your Grandparents. It is The Socialists of Amerika Partei (SAPs).

2. Demokrats nominated a criminal.

A national security threat. 2000+ emails at some level of Top Secret. Some at the very highest level of Secrecy. Anyone else would have been charged... Ages ago. If we have Rule of Law... Hillary will be too.

Sure. Pity the Republicans have selected someone that smells worse.

 

[zimmer]

I doubt that, because the Democratic Party is not a Socialist Party.

Your wishing is for naught.

As noted earlier, Bernie wanted a 3rd party 27-years ago, and he didn't leave the Socialist platform, the Demokrat Party came to him.

He's enjoyed (outside of Super Delegates), much success from the party faithful. Meaning... Lots of ignoramuses and Socialists out there (same, same), plus... The Party is little different from Bernie. The only major difference is he is open and honest about it, as Kucinich was.

Demokrats haven't seen Socialist legislation they didn't like... And through the decades, like a bad case of dry rot... The damage has become brutally obvious.

 

[Celebrity]

Your wishing is for naught.

As noted earlier, Bernie wanted a 3rd party 27-years ago, and he didn't leave the Socialist platform, the Demokrat Party came to him.

He's enjoyed (outside of Super Delegates), much success from the party faithful. Meaning... Lots of ignoramuses and Socialists out there (same, same), plus... The Party is little different from Bernie. The only major difference is he is open and honest about it, as Kucinich was.

Demokrats haven't seen Socialist legislation they didn't like... And through the decades, like a bad case of dry rot... The damage has become brutally obvious.

Really, then why did Jill Stein offer for him to abdicate his seat in a "Socialist platform?"