Would have been far less hassle if those Russian soldiers had just gone to San Francisco. Looting is no problem there.Russian Soldiers Send Home 58 Tons of Looted Items from Ukraine
War can be good for you if you don't die. You get to steal stuff. So is all this going straight to Moscow? No, most of it seems to be going to cities and towns in the periphery, another sign that most of the soldiers are not from the wealthier northwestern Russia. The sons of Moscow and St. Petersburg are not sent to Ukraine.
I am generally very amused by the current propaganda, which does not hesitate to write all this nonsense as "Russians are going to rape Ukrainian refrigerators.".. that is, people don't even try to think critically about stealing all these TVs, microwaves, toasters... and how to take them out to an ordinary soldier? Will someone set up a whole export infrastructure for him? Or will he tie a refrigerator to the tank and ride with it until the end of the war?Would have been far less hassle if those Russian soldiers had just gone to San Francisco. Looting is no problem there.
Please don’t misunderstand my post as a defense of Russia in any way, shape, or form regarding its actions in the Ukraine. Russian soldiers are likely engaging in war crimes, and sooner or later there will be an accounting for those non-fictional mass graves that keep turning up, as their should be.I am generally very amused by the current propaganda, which does not hesitate to write all this nonsense as "Russians are going to rape Ukrainian refrigerators.".. that is, people don't even try to think critically about stealing all these TVs, microwaves, toasters... and how to take them out to an ordinary soldier? Will someone set up a whole export infrastructure for him? Or will he tie a refrigerator to the tank and ride with it until the end of the war?
And these stories are about thousands of raped grandmothers and children... they have long been classics of military propaganda... unfortunately, all the media of the world are guilty of this.
The usual dehumanization of Russians. This is not the first time... and of course, this is not the last time we see it. Housewives will not perceive the war in a different way if they do not broadcast all these "non-fictional stories that actually did not exist"
Your post was an evil irony, where Russia was a name that could be replaced with any other... I understand perfectly well that you were making fun of the American present.Please don’t misunderstand my post as a defense of Russia
Naturally, as in any war, any soldiers do it... it is not always possible to distinguish civilians, etc., there are actions due to emotions, soldiers become brothers to each other.Russian soldiers are likely engaging in war crimes,
I strongly doubt that these non-fictional stories took place, I was near Kharkov and in Kherson and there were no similar plots anywhere, in honor of which they were supposed to appear in the Kiev region, a very good question.non-fictional mass graves that keep turning up, as their should be
Actually, I was making fun of American liberals and their negligent tolerance for crime.Your post was an evil irony, where Russia was a name that could be replaced with any other... I understand perfectly well that you were making fun of the American present.
Naturally, no, soldiers should not be executing hundreds of civilians and dumping their bodies into hastily dug ditches. Those are warm crimes, and we can only hope those responsible are ultimately held to account.Naturally, as in any war, any soldiers do it... it is not always possible to distinguish civilians, etc., there are actions due to emotions, soldiers become brothers to each other.
Make up your mind. First you claim it's no problem because it's common that "soldiers do it" and now you doubt that it ever happened. Which is it?I strongly doubt that these non-fictional stories took place, I was near Kharkov and in Kherson and there were no similar plots anywhere, in honor of which they were supposed to appear in the Kiev region, a very good question.
You've already lost the war; you just don't know it, yet. It will take generations for Russia to recover from the reputational damage it's inflected on itself. Russia is well on its way to becoming a pariah state much like North Korea.However, the most important thing is to judge Russian soldiers, Russia must first lose the war, which is impossible for a number of reasons.
The Ukraine will survive. Their troops on the ground are much more committed than are Russia's.First of all, the defeat of the Ukrainian troops is underway.
But the most important thing, even if something out of the ordinary happens, is to change the situation... there will be no winners over Russia. The Kremlin has put everything on winning this war, so they are ready for the most radical measures... again, after that there will be no one to judge the Russian soldiers, that is, those who survive will not be up to this lyric.
That's how I understood you.Actually, I was making fun of American liberals and their negligent tolerance for crime.
Naturally, no, soldiers should not be executing hundreds of civilians and dumping their bodies into hastily dug ditches. Those are warm crimes, and we can only hope those responsible are ultimately held to account.
I'm afraid you misunderstood me. Or maybe I was inaccurate. After all, my knowledge of English is far from ideal.Make up your mind. First you claim it's no problem because it's common that "soldiers do it" and now you doubt that it ever happened. Which is it?
I have already spoken about this, so I don't think it's necessary to repeat it.You've already lost the war
Please don’t misunderstand my post as a defense of Russia in any way, shape, or form regarding its actions in the Ukraine.
Russian soldiers are likely engaging in war crimes, and sooner or later there will be an accounting for those non-fictional mass graves that keep turning up, as their should be.
No, Russia is not entitled to a fair hearing as no such process is possible between nations. We need to judge Russia based on the evidence we have, and that evidence asserts two things: 1) Russia's invasion of Ukraine was entirely unjustified and 2) war crimes are being committed on the ground.Even the devil is entitled a defense. I see nothing wrong in affording the generic Russian one. I don't think you withholding the generic Russian a fair hearing is taking the moral high ground.
I can assure you the ethnic Russian minorities in eastern and southern Ukraine have their own grievances to share. Keep in mind this conflict goes as far back as 2014. The Kyiv government itself conducted its own ATO anti terrorist operation to suppress secessionist movements. They didn't do it with flowers. It was with soldiers, tanks and artillery.
Even as we speak ethnic Russians in areas under Ukrainian government control are being rounded up for treason. I hope you are also giving them a hearing. Treason charges usually are an excuse to visit havoc on a broader swathe of population than just the actual militants
Naturally, as in any war, any soldiers do it... it is not always possible to distinguish civilians, etc., there are actions due to emotions, soldiers become brothers to each other.
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