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The art of the deal...Germany stops construction of LNG Terminal and blocks american LNG

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Maybe one of the "dealmakers last plunders"...

Germany announced today, that the planned LNG terminal in Wilhelmshaven will not be build.

The Terminal was planned to give american companies acess on the german gas markets, one of the most lucrative worldwide. It was a step towards the americans. Germany gets most of its gas through Nordstream I pipeline from russia. USA opposed the new Nordstream II pipeline.

American LNG companiea are under pressure, some already went bancrupt. USA did chose a hostile way and threatened sanctions on german companies who work on Nordstream II. Thats a novum, that USA want sanction an allied nation for its independend energy politics.

The conflict was fuelled by Ted Cruz, who gets heavily funded by american LNG companies.

Experts made it clear from day one, that it is impossible for Germany to let USA dictate its energy politics and that rising pressure will only lead to secure that pipeline construction.

Merkel offered Trump a deal where no side loses face. Germany would fund a LNG Terminal in Wilhelmshaven, so american LNG tankers can dock and sell their gas on the german market. At same time USA drops the threats.

German finance minister Scholz send that proposal to Trump.

Trump did not answer and thought its a good idea to rise pressure in an attempt to simply force Germany to buy american LNG.

Today that backfired. No Terminal means no ships can land their cargo.

The entire German market is lost.

Nachrichten aus Oldenburg und Ostfriesland

Aktuelle Informationen aus Oldenburg und Ostfriesland mit Videos und Audios von NDR 1 Niedersachsen, Hallo Niedersachsen und weiteren NDR Programmen.
www.ndr.de www.ndr.de
 
Rostocker said:
Maybe one of the "dealmakers last plunders"...

Germany announced today, that the planned LNG terminal in Wilhelmshaven will not be build.

The Terminal was planned to give american companies acess on the german gas markets, one of the most lucrative worldwide. It was a step towards the americans. Germany gets most of its gas through Nordstream I pipeline from russia. USA opposed the new Nordstream II pipeline.

American LNG companiea are under pressure, some already went bancrupt. USA did chose a hostile way and threatened sanctions on german companies who work on Nordstream II. Thats a novum, that USA want sanction an allied nation for its independend energy politics.

The conflict was fuelled by Ted Cruz, who gets heavily funded by american LNG companies.

Experts made it clear from day one, that it is impossible for Germany to let USA dictate its energy politics and that rising pressure will only lead to secure that pipeline construction.

Merkel offered Trump a deal where no side loses face. Germany would fund a LNG Terminal in Wilhelmshaven, so american LNG tankers can dock and sell their gas on the german market. At same time USA drops the threats.

German finance minister Scholz send that proposal to Trump.

Trump did not answer and thought its a good idea to rise pressure in an attempt to simply force Germany to buy american LNG.

Today that backfired. No Terminal means no ships can land their cargo.

The entire German market is lost.

Nachrichten aus Oldenburg und Ostfriesland

Aktuelle Informationen aus Oldenburg und Ostfriesland mit Videos und Audios von NDR 1 Niedersachsen, Hallo Niedersachsen und weiteren NDR Programmen.
www.ndr.de www.ndr.de
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So Germany is engaged in a "Germany First" approach to its affairs?

Seems like I've heard another world leader saying his country's interests should come fist as well. Might have been Trump. Yes! It WAS Trump!

I seem to recall that "America First" was condemned as being a globally divisive policy that would be hurtful to the future of mankind. Seems like i heard GERMANS making that assertion.

Odd how you consider this sauce for the goose to be bad for the gander.

I'll look forward to seeing from which side of your mouth you reply.
 
So this is what Putin has you post?

Do they pract
Rostocker said:
Maybe one of the "dealmakers last plunders"...

Germany announced today, that the planned LNG terminal in Wilhelmshaven will not be build.

The Terminal was planned to give american companies acess on the german gas markets, one of the most lucrative worldwide. It was a step towards the americans. Germany gets most of its gas through Nordstream I pipeline from russia. USA opposed the new Nordstream II pipeline.

American LNG companiea are under pressure, some already went bancrupt. USA did chose a hostile way and threatened sanctions on german companies who work on Nordstream II. Thats a novum, that USA want sanction an allied nation for its independend energy politics.

The conflict was fuelled by Ted Cruz, who gets heavily funded by american LNG companies.

Experts made it clear from day one, that it is impossible for Germany to let USA dictate its energy politics and that rising pressure will only lead to secure that pipeline construction.

Merkel offered Trump a deal where no side loses face. Germany would fund a LNG Terminal in Wilhelmshaven, so american LNG tankers can dock and sell their gas on the german market. At same time USA drops the threats.

German finance minister Scholz send that proposal to Trump.

Trump did not answer and thought its a good idea to rise pressure in an attempt to simply force Germany to buy american LNG.

Today that backfired. No Terminal means no ships can land their cargo.

The entire German market is lost.

Nachrichten aus Oldenburg und Ostfriesland

Aktuelle Informationen aus Oldenburg und Ostfriesland mit Videos und Audios von NDR 1 Niedersachsen, Hallo Niedersachsen und weiteren NDR Programmen.
www.ndr.de www.ndr.de
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So Putin had you post this? Driving a wedge between long time allies?

Do you practice social distancing in your call center in St. Petersburg? Are your desks 6 feet apart? Do they disinfect your keyboards between shift changes?
 
Poor Germany. Nobody other than Russia is interested in selling them natural gas.
 
code1211 said:
So Germany is engaged in a "Germany First" approach to its affairs?

Seems like I've heard another world leader saying his country's interests should come fist as well. Might have been Trump. Yes! It WAS Trump!

I seem to recall that "America First" was condemned as being a globally divisive policy that would be hurtful to the future of mankind. Seems like i heard GERMANS making that assertion.

Odd how you consider this sauce for the goose to be bad for the gander.

I'll look forward to seeing from which side of your mouth you reply.
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No, thats not Germany First, its simply standing our ground against hostile behavior.

Trump tried to force Germany to buy only american LNG. For that he used brutal force, threats and blackmail. They even send a letter to the harbor in Sassnitz and threatened it with financial destruction.

Germany tried the soft way and offered a compromise, to build a terminal so USA can sell its product here. Thats Not Germany First. Some here said we should not have answered at all and ignored the threats. Appeasement rarely works.

Trump chose to believe he can force us anyways. Like the dumb goon he is, he ignored the offer and even raised the pressure.

The answer can be seen today. His blackmail backfired. He lost acess to the German market completly. He miscalculated and you guys pay the price.

Maybe Biden might be able to save the old offer.
 
Rostocker said:
USA was hellbend to sell Gas Here. It simply cant find anyone to buy it. When you can have Gas from Russia 30% cheaper
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We weren't that hellbent if we weren't willing to enter into binding bookings for the proposed floating port. There are other ports of entry.
 
Drawdown said:
We weren't that hellbent if we weren't willing to enter into binding bookings for the proposed floating port. There are other ports of entry.
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Dude you obviously cant read?

There is No other LNG Port in Germany. Zero. Nada
Nothing. Nobody was willing to buy the gas here.

What use has LNG Port with full ships but nobody buying the Cargo?

Meanwhile Nordstream I is at full capacity and NS II very much needed.
 
Rostocker said:
Maybe one of the "dealmakers last plunders"...

Germany announced today, that the planned LNG terminal in Wilhelmshaven will not be build.

The Terminal was planned to give american companies acess on the german gas markets, one of the most lucrative worldwide. It was a step towards the americans. Germany gets most of its gas through Nordstream I pipeline from russia. USA opposed the new Nordstream II pipeline.

American LNG companiea are under pressure, some already went bancrupt. USA did chose a hostile way and threatened sanctions on german companies who work on Nordstream II. Thats a novum, that USA want sanction an allied nation for its independend energy politics.

The conflict was fuelled by Ted Cruz, who gets heavily funded by american LNG companies.

Experts made it clear from day one, that it is impossible for Germany to let USA dictate its energy politics and that rising pressure will only lead to secure that pipeline construction.

Merkel offered Trump a deal where no side loses face. Germany would fund a LNG Terminal in Wilhelmshaven, so american LNG tankers can dock and sell their gas on the german market. At same time USA drops the threats.

German finance minister Scholz send that proposal to Trump.

Trump did not answer and thought its a good idea to rise pressure in an attempt to simply force Germany to buy american LNG.

Today that backfired. No Terminal means no ships can land their cargo.

The entire German market is lost.

Nachrichten aus Oldenburg und Ostfriesland

Aktuelle Informationen aus Oldenburg und Ostfriesland mit Videos und Audios von NDR 1 Niedersachsen, Hallo Niedersachsen und weiteren NDR Programmen.
www.ndr.de www.ndr.de
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Do you prefer to feed Putin?
 
Rostocker said:
Dude you obviously cant read?

There is No other LNG Port in Germany. Zero. Nada
Nothing. Nobody was willing to buy the gas here.

What use has LNG Port with full ships but nobody buying the Cargo?

Meanwhile Nordstream I is at full capacity and NS II very much needed.
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Don't trust Putin, he will cheat you.
 
The last time the Germans made a peace treaty with Russia it didn't end well at all. :)
 
swing_voter said:
So this is what Putin has you post?

Do they pract



So Putin had you post this? Driving a wedge between long time allies?

Do you practice social distancing in your call center in St. Petersburg? Are your desks 6 feet apart? Do they disinfect your keyboards between shift changes?
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I post from Germany and im at home office. Thank you from worrying.
 
Fledermaus said:
The Poles paid the US 30% less.... Perhaps it is the Germans that fail at negotiations.
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The poles are a artificial dwarf country. What they pay is pretty much irrelevant. They have no big consumption and their price is a luring price.

Beside that, Putin sticks to contracts. USA does not.
 
Rostocker said:
The last time we made a peace treaty with Russia ended very well.

It was our reunion treaty with Russia. Germany / Eastern Germany and USSR signed it.
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Ya, they really had no choice.
 
swing_voter said:
So this is what Putin has you post?

Do they pract



So Putin had you post this? Driving a wedge between long time allies?

Do you practice social distancing in your call center in St. Petersburg? Are your desks 6 feet apart? Do they disinfect your keyboards between shift changes?
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you made my day, the best post , ever )))LOL
 
Grandpappy said:
Ya, they really had no choice.
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There is always a choice.

Look dude, your problem is, you dont know history. Germany and Russia deal with each other since 1000 years. And in 90% of that time relations were perfect.

The court language in Russia for some time had been German. They even had a german empress.

Peace in Europe can only exist, when Germany and Russia have good relations
 
Rostocker said:
There is always a choice.

Look dude, your problem is, you dont know history. Germany and Russia deal with each other since 1000 years. And in 90% of that time relations were perfect.

The court language in Russia for some time had been German. They even had a german empress.

Peace in Europe can only exist, when Germany and Russia have good relations
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A choice to stay communist? That system was broken for years before that wall came down. Aren't you from Eastern Germany? Do you miss your communist overlords?
 
Grandpappy said:
A choice to stay communist? That system was broken for years before that wall came down. Aren't you from Eastern Germany? Do you miss your communist overlords?
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Im born after reunion.

Beside that i realize that you have no sense for history, your country has none.

I repeat for you:
Germany and Russia deal with each other since 1000 years. And in 90% of that time relations were perfect.

The court language in Russia for some time had been German. They even had a german empress.

Peace in Europe can only exist, when Germany and Russia have good relations
 
Rostocker said:
Dude you obviously cant read?

There is No other LNG Port in Germany. Zero. Nada
Nothing. Nobody was willing to buy the gas here.

What use has LNG Port with full ships but nobody buying the Cargo?

Meanwhile Nordstream I is at full capacity and NS II very much needed.
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Brunsbüttel seems to be under the impression they are building one, as is Stade.
 
Drawdown said:
Brunsbüttel seems to be under the impression they are building one, as is Stade.
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Those were the alternative places for this project. The project is cancelled. There is no LNG port under construction now. Which means your idiotic Cruz failed.

We dont react very good towards blackmail.
 
Drawdown said:
Brunsbüttel seems to be under the impression they are building one, as is Stade.
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Here for you right from one of germans bigegst media:

www.welt.de

LNG-Terminal: Projekt für Wilmhelmshaven auf Eis gelegt - WELT

Es sieht wie Absicht aus: Während das Aus für den amtierenden US-Präsidenten wahrscheinlicher wird, legen deutsche Energiekonzerne den Bau eines Importhafens für amerikanisches Flüssiggas auf Eis. Doch der wahre Grund für den Planungsstopp ist ein anderer.
www.welt.de www.welt.de

The stop of the LNG terminal in Wilhelmshaven shatters the US plan for its "freedom gas"
 
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