The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

[OldWorldOrder]

loool

 

[mike2810]

This topic has been discussed over the years. The china space walk has also been debated.

There is no new evidence to show that either were faked. Yes, its been on the internet for years.

Some just won't believe the explanations that goes against the statements that they were faked.

 

[Antitroll]

You never discuss, you run away and avoid. You have a stock response of ad hominem when shown where your claims are BS.

There was a user on political forum who absolutely annihilated you, but every time his evidence is presented to you, you come out with even more crap about the Chinese space walk!!

Okay, here is a quick flowchart to avoid the spammed replies from you:

No 1: Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax That link debunks your worldwide web mission to flood spammed duplicate links all over the internet.

No 2: Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: The Chinese Spacewalks - Part 1 He even took apart the inept video you rely on for your China spacewalk crap.

No 3: The man who made your China faked it spacewalk video, says Apollo was real. You use China's Spacewalk as some BS credibility test(ha ha ha!) - but it falls on its own butt.

No 4: Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: The Apollo 15 flag Apollo 15 flag debunked - totally.

No 5: Apollo 15 waving flag Headlikearock joins the club of people who totally own you. Here is an animated gif of the so called flag movement....

No 6: Your stock response to betamax101's videos and Headlikearock's gif is that they are doctored. They're not - you lose!

No 7: Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: The Apollo 17 Flag The Apollo 17 flag - owned again and you have no response to it.:

No 8: For sheer comedic value, Chomsky says 911 was not an inside job. Another one of your internet spam hobbies.

No 9: Your stock reply to Chomsky and the guy who made the Chinese Spacewalk video is that they have been 'got at' (ha ha ha!!). When people like Jarrah White, David Percy, Bart Sibrel and others are not! Comedy gold.



A summary of the flag issue

• There are 3 separate videos showing that the astronaut was easily close enough to hit the bottom corner.
• There is clear evidence showing that the 'movement' or blooming started the moment the astronaut entered the frame.
• This is at least 6 feet away from the flag.
• The whole flag shifts right.
• The flag pole itself shifts right.
• You haven't discounted the possibility that a bit of regolith was kicked forwards and outwards and hit the flag pole.
• Astronauts kicked regolith forwards all the time.
• The evidence strongly suggests blooming as the cause of the so called initial movement.
• It is a physical impossibility for air to move a flag from an approaching object more than a few inches away.
• The lens flares moving with the flag would only occur where there is a video artefact. You have no explanation for this.

That's enough for now.

You cannot make this crap up. Every step he takes, I predicted. Every one.

He avoids answering any of the above, claims some moronic credibility test with the Chinese spacewalks. He then claims Chomsky and the maker of his China faked video were got at.

Truly pathetic. This person didn't actually make it to the debating hall, they laughed at him so much he ran away.

He now proclaims my credibility is shot, because, uhhhh, because I don't believe his other lunatic conspiracy theory. The man who made his China faked it video, says 911 was not an inside job and the Moon landings were not faked. His own credibility test bites him in the butt.

He is incapable of even answering basic stuff. Chomsky and that guy have been got at, but all the other much bigger players are completely left alone. His logic is infantile, why would a man who suggests China faked a spacewalk be pressurised into saying Apollo was real. Utterly ridiculous.

For those who have no idea who this poster is, just watch this (part 1 of 2 videos) Basically showing dozens of duplicate forum posts(just like the one on this forum)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn41RM-x4wA

Or this, where he spams the living crap out of somebody's channel, with his drivel about China's spacewalk...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52dNmDFvxew

 

[Scott]

There was a user on political forum who absolutely annihilated you, but every time his evidence is presented to you, you come out with even more crap about the Chinese space walk!!

You're trying to mislead those viewers who haven't seen the discussion in question. Here is one of them.
Man has landed on the Moon. July 20, 1969. Sir, questions, sir. - Page 12 (politics)

That guy (BetaMax) said some pretty lame things with an authoritative patronizing attitude. Anyone who takes a close look at the discussion will see that what he was saying was lame. I hope the viewers who don't have time to look at it closely are not swayed by rhetoric. He knows his arguments are wrong. All he can do I suppose is try to sway those viewers who don't look at the actual issue with rhetoric.

 

[calamity]

You're trying to mislead those viewers who haven't seen the discussion in question. Here is one of them.
Man has landed on the Moon. July 20, 1969. Sir, questions, sir. - Page 12 (politics)

That guy (BetaMax) said some pretty lame things with an authoritative patronizing attitude. Anyone who takes a close look at the discussion will see that what he was saying was lame. I hope the viewers who don't have time to look at it closely are not swayed by rhetoric. He knows his arguments are wrong. All he can do I suppose is try to sway those viewers who don't look at the actual issue with rhetoric.

You are indeed ignoring real evidence and countering it with hooey yoootoobs. WTF?


What're your thoughts on vaccines?

 

[Scott]

Here's another thread on which I had a debate with BetaMax.
The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

No matter how lame his arguments are, he mainains the attitude that he's winning.

What're your thoughts on vaccines?

Without vaccines we wouldn't have eradicated polio and smallpox.

I've watched a few of these videos...
the truth about vaccines - YouTube

...and, being a layman looking at second-hand info, I'm going to sit on the fence on this issue.

 

[Fledermaus]

Here's another thread on which I had a debate with BetaMax.
The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

No matter how lame his arguments are, he mainains the attitude that he's winning.

Without vaccines we wouldn't have eradicated polio and smallpox.

I've watched a few of these videos...
the truth about vaccines - YouTube

...and, being a layman looking at second-hand info, I'm going to sit on the fence on this issue.

Maybe because he has REALITY on his side.

 

[Antitroll]

You're trying to mislead those viewers who haven't seen the discussion in question.

Get out of it! You lost body parts in that debate and instead of ANSWERING my post above you divert with crap ad hominems.

btw: you are a layman on every single thing you post about!

 

[Scott]

This anomaly closes the whole case by itself.

windyz.wmv - YouTube
(00:50 and 01:50 time marks)


So does this one.

Apollo 15 flag, facing air resistance; proving the fraud of alleged manned moon landings. - YouTube
(2:35 time mark)

We can see that the flag starts moving before he got close enough to touch it.
The flag that moved - YouTube

You say that he kicked soil against the pole which made the flag move. This is obviously not the case because the flag's movement is obviously caused be a wall of air hitting it. If pole movement had caused the flag's movement, the movement would have originated at the top and it wouldn't have been only back and forth. There would have been some up and down movement. This is so clear that it can't be obfuscated. The only thing that matters is what the viewers end up thinking but I know you'll stay here and obfuscate forever and declare victory anyway.


Hey anti-troll

You say the flag movement was caused by kicked soil hitting the pole. BetaMax says the astronaut brushed it with his elbow.
The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio - Page 51 (politics)

Is he right, or mistaken?

 

[Fledermaus]

This anomaly closes the whole case by itself.

windyz.wmv - YouTube
(00:50 and 01:50 time marks)


So does this one.

Apollo 15 flag, facing air resistance; proving the fraud of alleged manned moon landings. - YouTube
(2:35 time mark)

We can see that the flag starts moving before he got close enough to touch it.
The flag that moved - YouTube

You say that he kicked soil against the pole which made the flag move. This is obviously not the case because the flag's movement is obviously caused be a wall of air hitting it. If pole movement had caused the flag's movement, the movement would have originated at the top and it wouldn't have been only back and forth. There would have been some up and down movement. This is so clear that it can't be obfuscated. The only thing that matters is what the viewers end up thinking but I know you'll stay here and obfuscate forever and declare victory anyway.


Hey anti-troll

You say the flag movement was caused by kicked soil hitting the pole. BetaMax says the astronaut brushed it with his elbow.
The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio - Page 51 (politics)

Is he right, or mistaken?

Who cares? The moon landings happened.

 

[calamity]

Who cares? The moon landings happened.

Pretty much sums it up.

 

[Antitroll]

This anomaly closes the whole case by itself.

No it doesn't layman. Your ineptness in being able to understand physics closes your mind to reality and allows only the moronic moon hoax to surface!

Snip spammed Apollo 17 video of flag

A simple counter twist by Cernan slows it. He twisted it to start it moving, he twisted it the other way to slow it.

So does this one.

Brainless spam and ignoring the major points in my post.

"Moves", 6 feet away.

You say that he kicked soil against the pole which made the flag move. This is obviously not the case because the flag's movement is obviously caused be a wall of air hitting it.

Ha ha, what a stupid claim. A wall of air travelling 6 feet in front of him, seriously pal, get a clue. Really, it's way overdue. You've been spamming this crap for years now.

I didn't say regolith hit the pole, I said it was a possibility. The only thing physics says it cannot be is the moronic "wall of air"!

If pole movement had caused the flag's movement, the movement would have originated at the top and it wouldn't have been only back and forth.

Bovine excrement. If air moves something, it billows. A vibration caused by something hitting the base of the pole is easily consistent with what we see.

The only thing that matters is what the viewers end up thinking but I know you'll stay here and obfuscate forever and declare victory anyway.

Yes, look at all the viewers here there and everywhere, agreeing with you. Anyone, anywhere? Tumbleweed.

Hey anti-troll

You say the flag movement was caused by kicked soil hitting the pole. BetaMax says the astronaut brushed it with his elbow. Is he right, or mistaken?

You are a liar. I said the initial movement COULD have been caused by soil hitting the pole. Betamax101 and myself are in total agreement that as the astronaut ran past, he brushed the flag with his elbow.

Jarrah White concurs:

Cue spam about Jarrah White saying the flag moved before he got to it. That is irrelevant, he still concurs that the astronaut was close enough to hit it as he passed by. This leaves only the so called initial movement.

Again for the man who spams. It is either soil kicked at the flag pole, static or a camera blooming effect. Physics says it cannot be air - no billowing and way too far away. Also, no trace of movement at any other time in the video, even when the astronaut is in a closer proximity.

You never discuss, you run away and avoid. You have a stock response of ad hominem when shown where your claims are BS.

There was a user on political forum who absolutely annihilated you, but every time his evidence is presented to you, you come out with even more crap about the Chinese space walk!!

Okay, here is a quick flowchart to avoid the spammed replies from you:

No 1: Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax That link debunks your worldwide web mission to flood spammed duplicate links all over the internet.

No 2: Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: The Chinese Spacewalks - Part 1 He even took apart the inept video you rely on for your China spacewalk crap.

No 3: The man who made your China faked it spacewalk video, says Apollo was real. You use China's Spacewalk as some BS credibility test(ha ha ha!) - but it falls on its own butt.

No 4: Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: The Apollo 15 flag Apollo 15 flag debunked - totally.

No 5: Apollo 15 waving flag Headlikearock joins the club of people who totally own you. Here is an animated gif of the so called flag movement....

No 6: Your stock response to betamax101's videos and Headlikearock's gif is that they are doctored. They're not - you lose!

No 7: Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: The Apollo 17 Flag The Apollo 17 flag - owned again and you have no response to it.:

No 8: For sheer comedic value, Chomsky says 911 was not an inside job. Another one of your internet spam hobbies.

No 9: Your stock reply to Chomsky and the guy who made the Chinese Spacewalk video is that they have been 'got at' (ha ha ha!!). When people like Jarrah White, David Percy, Bart Sibrel and others are not! Comedy gold.



A summary of the flag issue

• There are 3 separate videos showing that the astronaut was easily close enough to hit the bottom corner.
• There is clear evidence showing that the 'movement' or blooming started the moment the astronaut entered the frame.
• This is at least 6 feet away from the flag.
• The whole flag shifts right.
• The flag pole itself shifts right.
• You haven't discounted the possibility that a bit of regolith was kicked forwards and outwards and hit the flag pole.
• Astronauts kicked regolith forwards all the time.
• The evidence strongly suggests blooming as the cause of the so called initial movement.
• It is a physical impossibility for air to move a flag from an approaching object more than a few inches away.
• The lens flares moving with the flag would only occur where there is a video artefact. You have no explanation for this.

That's enough for now.

Owned again. Don't you ever get tired of being hopelessly wrong?

 

[Scott]

Jarrah White concurs:

Cue spam about Jarrah White saying the flag moved before he got to it. That is irrelevant, he still concurs that the astronaut was close enough to hit it as he passed by. This leaves only the so called initial movement.

If you're going to try to mislead those viewers who don't take the time to watch whole series of videos, I'll have to point out the parts of the videos that you're misrepresenting to thwart you.

MoonFaker: Flagging The Dead Horses. PART 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI3fwzPGtUk
(4:15 time mark to 4:47)

Go ahead and obfuscate all you want. You are clearly wrong on this one. You don't even believe your own arguments.

 

[Antitroll]

If you're going to try to mislead those viewers who don't take the time to watch whole series of videos, I'll have to point out the parts of the videos that you're misrepresenting to thwart you.

Yet again the spam by numbers.

Jarrah White concurs:

Cue spam about Jarrah White saying the flag moved before he got to it. That is irrelevant, he still concurs that the astronaut was close enough to hit it as he passed by. This leaves only the so called initial movement.

Again for the man who spams. It is either soil kicked at the flag pole, static or a camera blooming effect. Physics says it cannot be air - no billowing and way too far away. Also, no trace of movement at any other time in the video, even when the astronaut is in a closer proximity.



Owned again. Don't you ever get tired of being hopelessly wrong?

He's only reposting his spam to "thwart me" - what a joke.

Go ahead and obfuscate all you want. You are clearly wrong on this one. You don't even believe your own arguments.

Yes I do. You are so useless at debate you are completely unable to answer the major points made.

•There are 3 separate videos showing that the astronaut was easily close enough to hit the bottom corner.
•There is clear evidence showing that the 'movement' or blooming started the moment the astronaut entered the frame.
•This is at least 6 feet away from the flag.
•The whole flag shifts right.
•The flag pole itself shifts right.
•You haven't discounted the possibility that a bit of regolith was kicked forwards and outwards and hit the flag pole.
•Astronauts kicked regolith forwards all the time.
•The evidence strongly suggests blooming as the cause of the so called initial movement.
•It is a physical impossibility for air to move a flag from an approaching object more than a few inches away.
•The lens flares moving with the flag would only occur where there is a video artefact. You have no explanation for this.

 

[Scott]

•There are 3 separate videos showing that the astronaut was easily close enough to hit the bottom corner.

Please post links to them.

 

[Antitroll]

Please post links to them.

Pathetic, as if you haven't been shown them enough. As if the blog that tears you a new one doesn't list them!

Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: The Apollo 15 flag

We have Jarrah White's video showing clearly, that he was close enough to strike it. The fact that your fixation cannot see this is proof you are no truther. As if.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbJvgqoeFSU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx5H7Rwfkjo



Now what happens? You ignore them? What about the other points, explain how the lens flares move.

 

[Scott]

Sorry but those videos don't make this go away.
The flag that moved - YouTube

Those videos are lame attempts at obfuscation by sophists.

The viewers should watch this series if they have any doubts.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MoonFaker:+Flagging+The+Dead+Horses.+

 

[Antitroll]

Sorry but those videos don't make this go away.
The flag that moved - YouTube

That video, as has already been pointed out for the hard of understanding, only shows the corner of the flag. The whole flag shifts right including the flagpole.

That video shows the so called movement:

"Moves", 6 feet away.

I see you ignored it as you have done with everything posted.

Those videos are lame attempts at obfuscation by sophists.

You must be a little short on spam responses, one of the 3 videos is by Jarrah White, he agrees with the other 2, the astronaut was easily close enough to brush it with his elbow!

There are 3 separate videos showing that the astronaut was easily close enough to hit the bottom corner.
•There is clear evidence showing that the 'movement' or blooming started the moment the astronaut entered the frame.
•This is at least 6 feet away from the flag.
•The whole flag shifts right.
•The flag pole itself shifts right.
•You haven't discounted the possibility that a bit of regolith was kicked forwards and outwards and hit the flag pole.
•Astronauts kicked regolith forwards all the time.
•The evidence strongly suggests blooming as the cause of the so called initial movement.
•It is a physical impossibility for air to move a flag from an approaching object more than a few inches away.
•The lens flares moving with the flag would only occur where there is a video artefact. You have no explanation for this.

What about the other points, explain how the lens flares move.

Owned again.

 

[Scott]

Viewers please look at what happens in this video at the 00:47 time mark and compare it to the frame Anti-troll posted.
The flag that moved - YouTube

It's not the same one. Anti-troll is referring to a different time in the video to take everyone in.

 

[Antitroll]

Viewers please look at what happens in this video at the 00:47 time mark and compare it to the frame Anti-troll posted.
The flag that moved - YouTube

You really are none too bright are you. The animated gif has taken 2 frames from that video in different places to show the movement starts 6 feet away.

It's not the same one. Anti-troll is referring to a different time in the video to take everyone in.

No spammer, I'm referring to a different part in that video to show that your ridiculous "wall of air" is impossible from 6 feet away.

Now, answer the list I made and tell everybody why the lens flares move!

 

[mike2810]

and for every youtube vid claiming fake, there are sites that discuss the issue in a more scientific basis.

Flag waving. Care to show a clips with the flag waiving and the dust blowing. Or do you believe the surface does not contain dust?


Photos: 8 Moon-Landing Hoax Myths--Busted

Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Bad TV


That’s what matters."

"This is a picture of Al Bean. It’s a man in a space suit. It’s a man in a spacesuit holding a sample container. It’s a man in a spacesuit holding a sample container on the Moon. Standing on the Moon. It’s a man standing on the freakin’ Moon!"


http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2011/02/albean_apollo12.jpg

To sum it up.
"In the late 1960s and early 70s, we did indeed put 12 human beings on the surface of another world, and did in reality and in fact bring them back to Earth.

 

[prohobo]

As someone who had family members work on both the Gemini and Apollo missions - no - it wasn't fake.

What will be more amusing is when China (most likely) gets back there to find the junk we left up there and takes video of them taking down our flag (just to stick it too us) and even perhaps brings back the junk, the conspiracy people will say that was fake too.

 

[calamity]

and for every youtube vid claiming fake, there are sites that discuss the issue in a more scientific basis.

Flag waving. Care to show a clips with the flag waiving and the dust blowing. Or do you believe the surface does not contain dust?


Photos: 8 Moon-Landing Hoax Myths--Busted

Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Bad TV


That’s what matters."

"This is a picture of Al Bean. It’s a man in a space suit. It’s a man in a spacesuit holding a sample container. It’s a man in a spacesuit holding a sample container on the Moon. Standing on the Moon. It’s a man standing on the freakin’ Moon!"


http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2011/02/albean_apollo12.jpg

To sum it up.
"In the late 1960s and early 70s, we did indeed put 12 human beings on the surface of another world, and did in reality and in fact bring them back to Earth.

What I love about the moon hoaxers is that no matter how much data you show them, from independant analysis performed by astrophysicists, be they here or coming out of India, to a debunking by amateur astronomers, they still insist some cheesy yootoob put together by who knows who is more reliable. It's a bit crazy, to say the least.

 

[Scott]

There are two movements of the flag. One of them is at the 00:47 time mark of this video.
The flag that moved - YouTube

The one that came before that one is at the 8:57 time mark of this video.
MoonFaker: Flagging The Dead Horses. PART 4 - YouTube

The movement in the first video when the astronaut was closer to the flag started just before he got close enough to touch it. He obviously did not touch it. Air made the flag move. The case is closed. They were in a studio.

The movement when the astronaut is farther from the flag is really a moot issue since the other movement proves they were in air. Anti-troll is trying to draw attention away from the movement when the astronaut is very close to the flag by harping on the movement that occured when the astronaut was farther from the flag. When sophists are cornered on an issue, they try to muddy the waters and keep people confused. I think most people can see what's going on here.
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Let's not forget that the pro-Apollo posters here maintain that the Chinese spacewalk was real.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...sions-were-faked-studio-7.html#post1062801200

That pretty much shows that they are less-than-objective.

 

[Antitroll]

The movement in the first video when the astronaut was closer to the flag started just before he got close enough to touch it. He obviously did not touch it. Air made the flag move. The case is closed. They were in a studio.

The spammer avoids the questions again, can anybody see a pattern emerging? Air doesn't move flags from 6 feet away, every single video presented shows clearly that there is sign of movement 6 feet away.

The movement when the astronaut is farther from the flag is really a moot issue since the other movement proves they were in air. Anti-troll is trying to draw attention away from the movement when the astronaut is very close to the flag by harping on the movement that occured when the astronaut was farther from the flag. When sophists are cornered on an issue, they try to muddy the waters and keep people confused.

Blah blah blah, more repetitive assertion. Layman.

There are 3 separate videos showing that the astronaut was easily close enough to hit the bottom corner.
•There is clear evidence showing that the 'movement' or blooming started the moment the astronaut entered the frame.
•This is at least 6 feet away from the flag.
•The whole flag shifts right.
•The flag pole itself shifts right.
•You haven't discounted the possibility that a bit of regolith was kicked forwards and outwards and hit the flag pole.
•Astronauts kicked regolith forwards all the time.
•The evidence strongly suggests blooming as the cause of the so called initial movement.
•It is a physical impossibility for air to move a flag from an approaching object more than a few inches away.
•The lens flares moving with the flag would only occur where there is a video artefact. You have no explanation for this.

I think most people can see what's going on here.

Let's ask them. What is going on here people, lurkers, posters, please chime in.

That pretty much shows that they are less-than-objective.

It takes a leap of stupid to suggest China would fake a spacewalk. It takes complete blindness to call the piece of ice in the video a bubble.