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The ALTERNATE 9/11 theory.[W:15:213:1219]

BmanMcfly said:
Oh, ya... it turns out you were right, your contrarians denials of everything actually served you once.

Amalgam Virgo proves that the idea of hijacked airliners used as missiles was considered and not something "out of the blue" as claimed...
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Amalgam Virgo was an exercise involving two simultaneously hijacked airliners, not airliners as missiles. The drill took place in June 2001.


Amalgam Virgo and Tripod II were not running on 9/11/2001.

Vigilant Warrior was a combat operation run in Iraq in 1994. I suspect confusion with Vigilant Guardian among CT's is the reason this makes some lists.

Timely Alert II, Operation Northern Guardian, Apollo Guardian, Crown Vigilance, AWACS/Noble Eagle & National reconnaissance office drill, are not relevant to NORAD or NEADS. The NRO Drill contained a simulated event in which a small aircraft would crash into NRO agency's headquarters buildings after experiencing a mechanical failure.

Operation Northern Vigilance was a real-world operation in response to a Russian exercise and not a "war game" or drill and it involved assets in Alaska and Northern Canada.

This leaves Global Guardian and Vigilant Guardian as the only NORAD/NEADS related excercises actually being run on 9/11/2001, these always running together as part of the same exercise.

Naturally, this will not sway debunker opinions... but, nothing can sway their unshakeable faith anyway.
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Naturally it will not sway opinion because of the dishonest way in which the information was presented in order to affirm a pre-conceived conclusion.
 
Reading comprehension issues noted.

Also, opinions noted.
 
It's not a preconceived conclusion at all. What a stupid statement.

It is a simple fact that those training exercises were conducted. It's like "on their frigging website" or something like that. Press releases even.

Everybody has written about them including Michael Ruppert. Radar injects. "Is this real life, or exercise?". Old News indeed.

Instead of 2 airliners being simultaneously hijacked, 4 were. :lamo
 

The exercise had no bearing or effect on what happened on 911 so why do truthers bring it up?
Simple they can dishonestly try to link it to 911 and pretend they were done to help the govt get away with 911 despite the fact they had no impact on the events of 911.
But then we have learned to expect lies from truthers.
 

Yes, and the "real life or exercise" was only part of the transcripts, the exercises had diverted resources all over the place except towards the hijacked planes.

Oh ya, and having only 4 jets to cover the entire north east US, thanks to some of those drills, whatever chance there was to intercept the planes was gone through all the confusion, people not at their posts, etc.
 

Which resources to which places?

What was the usual number of alert fighters available in the NEADS sector in 2001?

How many alert fighters were at NEADS disposal on the morning of 9/11/2001?

At which locations?

What is the difference between those numbers?

How much time did NEADS have to respond between the moment it was informed of each hijacked aircraft and when that aircraft crashed?

How long would it have taken a fighter on 15 minute alert to take off, reach altitude, get a clear flight path, fly to the expected position of the hijacked aircraft, find the aircraft and then do whatever it is you think the fighter was going to do to stop the suspected hijacked aircraft?
 


Do you have a clue how many ready alert aircraft were normal for the time?

No, of course not.
 

The confusion and complacency caused by Vigilant Guardian was an essential part of the plan for the events of the day.

As the Payne Stewart incident demonstrated, WITHOUT such exercises being conducted, the system reacted quickly and as designed.
 
96 pages and still no alternative theory. Will we have to wait for another 13 years? Will a new generation of truthers pick up the spluttering torch in 20 years time? Maybe one of them will finally come up with a plausible theory.
 
Henry David said:
The confusion and complacency caused by Vigilant Guardian was an essential part of the plan for the events of the day.

As the Payne Stewart incident demonstrated, WITHOUT such exercises being conducted, the system reacted quickly and as designed.
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Please detail in a minute-by-minute timeline what confusion and complacency was caused by Vigilant Guardian and how that prevented USAF fighters from performing the unprecedented act of shooting down suspected hijacked aircraft to stop the attacks. This may assist you.

9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes | Vanity Fair

I eagerly await your reply.
 

I fear that your eagerness is misplaced.
 
zyzygy said:
96 pages and still no alternative theory. Will we have to wait for another 13 years? Will a new generation of truthers pick up the spluttering torch in 20 years time? Maybe one of them will finally come up with a plausible theory.
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plenty have been given, MIHOP and LIHOP
 
Henry David said:
The confusion and complacency caused by Vigilant Guardian was an essential part of the plan for the events of the day.
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Why?

As the Payne Stewart incident demonstrated, WITHOUT such exercises being conducted, the system reacted quickly and as designed.
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Took 1 hour 20 mins to intercept Stewart's plane with unarmed aircraft already in the sky.
reaction times on 911 were much faster.
 

The answer is absolutely no delay was involved and the truthers that actually know anything know this the others are just suckers for any lies that involve blaming the govt for everything.
 
zyzygy said:
Perhaps we should make it clear. An alternative theory that hasn't already been thoroughly debunked and shown to be nonsense.
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It would be interesting to see what comes up with all the pin-balling between thermite, nukes, nano-thermite, conventional explosives, etc.
 
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